00:35:31 fusss [~chatzilla@li63-187.members.linode.com] has joined #ccl 00:35:36 hi there 00:35:52 I am having these annoying ccl deaths on win32 00:36:05 hunch tells me it's unicode/encoding mismatch related 00:36:37 what version of ccl, and how would one reproduce the problem ? 00:36:55 "Version 1.4-RC1-r13031 (WindowsX8632)" 00:37:18 I am running some standard stuff; writing SOAP code with CXML 00:37:39 (set-language-environment "UTF-8") 00:37:41 (setq slime-net-coding-system 'utf-8-unix) 00:38:12 I had everything working, evaluated a very simple form, and the next form I tried to evaluate said there was no lisp connected 00:38:53 I don't remember what changed between 1.4-rc1 and the released 1.4. Is there anything in the "inferior lisp" buffer (whatever it's called) ? 00:40:13 Process inferior-lisp exited abnormally with code 5 00:40:14 (progn (load "c:/slime-2009-10-15/swank-loader.lisp" :verbose t) (funcall (read-from-string "swank-loader:init")) (funcall (read-from-string "swank:start-server") "c:/DOCUME~1/bob/LOCALS~1/Temp/slime.5340" :coding-system "utf-8-unix")) 00:41:02 5 is SIGTRAP on unix. 00:41:17 in *Messages*: Lisp connection closed unexpectedly: connection broken by remote peer 00:41:53 Does "utf-8-unix" imply that strings are LF-terminated ? 00:42:04 (I don't know.) 00:43:53 I don't know for sure if that's relevant, either. 00:43:58 gbyers: will remove that and try again 00:44:14 for some reason I thought that was a a hint to emacs not to ^M terminate my files 00:44:31 that breaks our VS 00:45:30 fusss: there were bugs in the 1.4-RC binaries; you really want to update that if you can. see http://trac.clozure.com/ccl/wiki/WindowsNotes 00:47:09 rme: atm i can only install binaries; no time to build from source. do you have a binary release you recommend? 00:47:38 at least get the release binaries from ftp://ftp.clozure.com/pub/release/1.4/ccl-1.4-windows.zip 00:47:39 *fusss* just realize ccl can build win32 GUIs as well 00:48:26 if you svn up, you should get more up-to-date binaries 00:48:28 oh, so what i have is the release candidate, and not the final 1.4 release. aha! 00:50:39 hmm, the #_ reader macro is what ccl uses for case preservation? might need that for xml :-) 00:51:43 #_ is for calling foreign functions, e.g., (#_getpid) 00:51:56 rme: I see 1.5 there as well. you think I should grab it? 00:52:00 No time to build from source? I think CCL takes about 30 seconds to build itself. 00:52:06 Maybe it's up to a minute. 00:53:08 (setf (readtable-case *readtable*) :preserve). 00:53:13 1.5 isn't ready. it's basically just the trunk at this point, but you can try it if you want. 00:54:17 billstclair: i build it on unix all the time. on win32 i don't have the tool chain 00:54:35 So you can't rebuild the kernel, but you can build the lisp files 00:54:52 fusss: use svn to get the kernel, and use (rebuild-ccl :clean t) (instead of ... :full t). 00:54:52 pretty much 00:55:11 nunb [~nundan@59.178.202.176] has joined #ccl 00:55:52 alright, will try that also 00:56:17 might even setup a powershell thinggie to build nightly for the masses .. 01:12:23 palter [~palter@c-75-68-177-225.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 01:25:36 gz_ [~gz@160.sub-75-192-211.myvzw.com] has joined #ccl 01:40:19 -!- nunb [~nundan@59.178.202.176] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:40:53 nunb [~nundan@59.178.205.140] has joined #ccl 01:49:49 fusss: it's entirely inconclusive, but I was able to run 1.4-r13122 under (some version of) SLIME using (some version of) Emacs on win32. 01:50:23 gbyers: since i removed the unix-utf line about an hour ago, i too have been running just fine 01:50:37 -!- gz_ [Clozure@clozure-5E368AAE.sub-75-192-211.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout] 01:51:44 -!- gz_ [~gz@160.sub-75-192-211.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:53:53 The version of Emacs that I have installed didn't have a problem with that, but didn't recognize whatever arg I was passing to SET-LANGUAGE-ENVIRONMENT. Glad it's working in any case; I wouldn't want to say that there's no CCL bug there, but there seem to be lots of potential culprits. 01:54:30 gz_ [~gz@60.sub-75-239-225.myvzw.com] has joined #ccl 01:57:51 -!- gz_ [~gz@60.sub-75-239-225.myvzw.com] has quit [Client Quit] 02:09:07 gbyers: we're happy with ccl so far. we use it in-house to orchestrate at least 5 different web services, and process 200k daily :-) 02:10:19 we're moving from a horrible php cron script to proper middle-ware; message queue + better logging + better exception handling + reporting + web interface + SMS messaging to staff. 02:16:54 alms [~alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 02:45:37 -!- nunb [~nundan@59.178.205.140] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:52:31 nunb [~nundan@59.178.205.140] has joined #ccl 03:04:28 -!- alms [alms@clozure-AD075F06.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms] 03:04:28 -!- alms [~alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms] 03:12:10 -!- palter [palter@clozure-78A0C567.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 03:12:12 palter_ [~palter@2002:4b44:b1e1:0:21b:63ff:fe96:e1ff] has joined #ccl 03:12:12 -!- palter [~palter@c-75-68-177-225.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:12:12 -!- palter_ is now known as palter 03:25:10 alms [~alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 03:47:46 -!- alms [~alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms] 04:42:44 -!- nunb [~nundan@59.178.205.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:44:00 -!- rme [~rme@pool-70-105-117-176.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: rme] 04:49:49 nunb [~nundan@122.162.1.134] has joined #ccl 08:16:52 -!- fusss [~chatzilla@li63-187.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:26:05 -!- nunb [~nundan@122.162.1.134] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:03:56 nunb [~nundan@59.178.204.11] has joined #ccl 10:24:57 fusss [~chatzilla@60-241-1-206.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ccl 11:56:59 alms [~alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 12:04:22 can we get line numbers in CCL errors? 12:04:49 right now it's all in octets from the start 12:05:24 and I don't think emacs has M-x fseek 12:07:56 <_8david`> C-u NNN M-x goto-char 12:08:03 <_8david`> or M-< C-u NNN-1 C-f 12:17:27 _8david`: thanks! 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