00:11:28 -!- palter [n=palter@c-65-96-32-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 00:37:53 -!- mdc [mdc@clozure-E8FCCA05.entity.com] has quit [Ping timeout] 00:38:12 -!- fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has quit ["Leaving..."] 01:07:24 fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has joined #ccl 01:13:32 -!- fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has quit ["Leaving..."] 01:14:33 fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has joined #ccl 01:19:55 palter [n=palter@c-65-96-32-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 01:29:12 -!- palter [n=palter@c-65-96-32-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 01:52:22 -!- fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has quit ["Leaving..."] 01:54:49 palter [n=palter@c-65-96-32-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 02:03:55 fUD [n=billsb@124-171-200-55.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ccl 03:08:25 fusss [n=chatzill@60-241-1-206.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ccl 03:08:29 greetings 03:08:56 sellout: a few days ago i was here complaining about clozure dying or otherwise shutting down the slime socket randomly during development. 03:09:28 sellout: yesterday, I used sbcl for ~6 hours and the same thing happened. then tested it with CLISP and the same thing happened. 03:09:32 fusss: Ah yeah  gbyers showed up some time after you left. Are you on Windows? 03:09:41 Oh, interesting. 03:09:52 yes, I am on windows 03:10:16 it's not CCL, that I can assure you. unless there are multiple issues on multiple lisps that all cause a dying 03:10:29 fusss: Are you doing ffi stuff? 03:10:45 :depends-on (:hunchentoot :cl-who :postmodern :cl-base64 :cl-fad :s-utils :cl-ppcre :ironclad :montezuma)) 03:11:11 not a single FFI that I can think of in that list 03:11:24 I don't know what s-utils is, but otherwise, yeah you look clean. 03:11:25 assuming threading and sockets are implemented sanely 03:11:49 s-utils hasn't been a dependency for weeks now, after refactoring, so it's not an issue 03:12:39 no worries though 03:13:56 -!- palter [palter@clozure-BB1CFD88.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: palter] 03:13:56 -!- palter [n=palter@c-65-96-32-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:14:25 -!- fUD [n=billsb@124-171-200-55.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:24:20 -!- Dawgmatix_ [n=dman@c-76-124-8-39.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 04:04:36 Modius [n=Modius@cpe-70-123-130-159.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 04:16:37 -!- fusss [n=chatzill@60-241-1-206.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 04:21:05 fusss [n=chatzill@60-241-1-206.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ccl 04:24:52 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 04:32:18 alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 04:48:04 lpolzer__ [n=lpolzer@dslb-088-073-198-058.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ccl 05:04:08 -!- lpolzer_ [n=lpolzer@dslb-088-073-232-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:10:59 fUD [n=billsb@124-171-200-55.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ccl 05:42:25 fusss: if you're still there and if I remember correctly, the backtrace that you pasted just showed that some SLIME-specific thread had been killed by PROCESS-KILL. Everything about that looked normal, but it's not clear why some other thread would kill that one. 05:42:49 gbyers: I am still here 05:43:36 i spend HOURS a day banging on my keyboards; and i have a weird instinct for having a pinky on the control key 05:43:57 there is a 51% chance I might be killing the threads with a malformed keychord, accidently 05:45:53 Does the lisp process exit when this happens, or is it just a case of SLIME/SWANK losing contact ? 05:48:14 losign contact 05:48:19 I can still see the repl 05:48:30 but anything i try to evaluate sez it's disconnected 05:49:26 The thread that dies is likely the one that manages communication. 05:50:20 gbyers: i have been old this on more than one occasion: stop hacking on win32. 05:51:13 i blame it all on the phenomenal compatibility of lisp implementations 05:52:26 There's certainly a lot of broken/misdesigned stuff about Win32, but this seems to be something "normal": the thread's told to die, and it simply does. I don't think that Win32 can cause PROCESS-KILL to be called by accident. 05:54:15 hold that thought for me Gary 05:54:45 Error between brain and keyboard, then? :-) 05:54:58 i will have a better idea next time; right now, it's warm and sunny outside, and I am 3 beers in before 5PM ;-) 05:55:35 Don't know, but could be code in some library killing the wrong thread. 05:55:57 brb 06:52:31 -!- Adlai [n=Adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit ["work"] 07:23:28 -!- fUD [n=billsb@124-171-200-55.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:51:43 -!- fe[nl]ix [n=algidus@ABordeaux-158-1-16-102.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Valete!"] 08:06:24 -!- sellout [n=greg@c-24-128-48-180.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 08:06:39 sellout [n=greg@c-24-128-48-180.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 08:52:12 Adlai [n=adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #ccl 10:27:22 -!- fusss [n=chatzill@60-241-1-206.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:29:44 fusss [n=chatzill@60-241-1-206.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ccl 11:53:44 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-104-125-173.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 12:06:31 -!- fusss [n=chatzill@60-241-1-206.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:39:34 fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has joined #ccl 13:13:02 billstclai [n=billstcl@gw3.tacwap.org] has joined #ccl 13:14:14 -!- billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:14:30 -!- billstclai is now known as billstclair 13:15:22 -!- billstclair is now known as wws 13:19:43 -!- fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has quit ["Leaving..."] 13:37:10 -!- alms [alms@clozure-AD075F06.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms] 13:37:10 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 13:42:14 alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 13:46:03 -!- alms [alms@clozure-AD075F06.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms] 13:46:05 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:56:12 lispm [n=joswig@e177144102.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ccl 14:09:24 -!- sellout [n=greg@c-24-128-48-180.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 14:19:22 -!- billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:29:11 sellout [n=greg@static-72-85-235-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 14:35:11 billstclair [n=billstcl@dsl-216-227-57-119.taconic.net] has joined #ccl 14:56:06 palter [n=palter@static-72-85-235-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 15:13:51 -!- clop [n=jared@moat3.centtech.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:15:04 clop [n=jared@moat3.centtech.com] has joined #ccl 15:21:56 alms [n=alms@static-72-85-235-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 15:33:05 fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has joined #ccl 15:47:50 -!- fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has quit ["Leaving..."] 15:54:30 -!- Adlai [n=adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:10:47 -!- lispm [n=joswig@e177144102.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:28:27 froydnj [n=froydnj@gateway.codesourcery.com] has joined #ccl 19:10:16 ccl-logbot [n=ccl-logb@setf.clozure.com] has joined #ccl 19:10:16 19:10:16 -!- names: ccl-logbot rme Dawgmatix froydnj alms clop palter billstclair sellout lpolzer__ Modius _3b` gbyers gz Arelius` bfulgham chandler sykopomp @ChanServ mdc lisppaste5 19:50:24 fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has joined #ccl 19:56:50 -!- fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has quit ["Leaving..."] 20:24:05 fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has joined #ccl 20:37:16 milanj [n=milan@79.101.212.193] has joined #ccl 20:41:49 redline6561 [n=redline@adsl-065-013-015-097.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ccl 20:44:59 redline6561 pasted "silly little ffi paste" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/93404 20:45:16 Hello, I need a lockf wrapper for a program I'm writing. On ECL, I could write something like the above. What's the right way to do this in CCL? 20:45:54 *redline6561* has Chapter 12 of the manual up... 20:48:57 In ccl, you'd normally just say (#_lockf fd #$F_LOCK 0) 20:49:40 Thanks, rme. 20:57:17 -!- redline6561 [n=redline@adsl-065-013-015-097.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #ccl 21:03:00 -!- fmeyer [n=fmeyer@189.4.254.233] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:00:27 -!- lisppaste5 [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Want lisppaste5 in your channel? 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