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I don't think there's any current way to avoid that. 17:02:42 rme: hmm, that's a big nuisance. Any idea what it'd take to circumvent this? 17:03:09 (SBCL has an option when you dump an image to have all built-in argument processing disabled) 17:04:40 Sounds useful. Just curious, what's you application? 17:04:49 your 17:05:52 Adlai: would you please make a ticket for that at http://trac.clozure.com/openmcl/ ? 17:06:09 gz: Leslie Polzer is working on a CL package manager for Archlinux using SBCL, and I'm trying to port it to CCL. 17:06:19 rme: ok, just a sec. 17:07:26 gz: http://github.com/skypher/paktahn/ 17:07:29 packages as in bundles of code or as in bundles of symbols? 17:07:46 Adlai: is that for packages generally, or just CL packages? 17:08:22 it's for Archlinux packages -- ie, this is similar to the Synaptic package manager for Ubuntu 17:09:51 how do I make a ticket? I'm guessing I need to register first... 17:10:18 Sorry, it's necessary to register or the spammers overrun us. 17:10:39 oh I'm fine with registering, I just didn't see the link at first. 17:18:40 -!- Adlai [n=adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:18:54 Adlai [n=adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #ccl 17:20:48 milanj- [n=milan@93.86.231.183] has joined #ccl 17:30:25 -!- milanj [n=milan@93.86.241.8] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:33:58 -!- Adlai [n=adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:34:10 Adlai [n=adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #ccl 17:37:58 rme: http://trac.clozure.com/openmcl/ticket/605 17:43:49 Adlai: thank you 17:44:30 What do you think this change entails? 17:45:51 -!- anRch [n=markmill@nmd.sbx07283.medfoma.wayport.net] has quit [] 17:48:28 Just right off the top of my head, it sounds like kernel command-line processing would need to become conditional on whether we're a prepended kernel or not (and whether the image was saved with :save-runtime-options t). 17:49:46 and there'd need to be a way to store the saved options. 17:52:53 -!- joswig [n=joswig@e177127052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:34:03 jajcloz [n=jaj@pool-98-110-225-173.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 18:40:22 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-93-115.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 18:40:51 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-93-115.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 18:42:31 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-93-115.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 18:48:25 sellout- [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 19:02:32 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-93-115.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 19:05:20 -!- sellout [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:05:20 -!- sellout- is now known as sellout 19:53:04 -!- milanj- [n=milan@93.86.231.183] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20:03:49 lispm [n=joswig@e177127052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ccl 20:52:02 -!- Adlai [n=adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:54:42 Adlai [n=adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #ccl 20:55:37 anRch [n=markmill@nmd.sbx07258.melroma.wayport.net] has joined #ccl 21:20:50 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-93-115.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 21:29:57 -!- lispm [n=joswig@e177127052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 21:44:44 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-93-115.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 22:05:34 milanj [n=milan@93.86.231.183] has joined #ccl 22:24:00 -!- anRch [n=markmill@nmd.sbx07258.melroma.wayport.net] has quit [] 22:28:01 random question -- why does ChanServ hang out here? 22:34:38 -!- Summermute [n=scott@68.34.67.216] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:58:17 -!- milanj [n=milan@93.86.231.183] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:41:01 -!- palter [n=palter@c-24-128-76-188.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:43:37 Adlai: The GUARD option is on. It means that if all of the ordinary users were to leave the channel, the channel modes, topic, etc. would remain set, and new users who join the channel would not automatically be +o.