03:17:17 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-112-40.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 03:31:12 bfulgham_ [n=brent@adsl-69-234-124-120.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ccl 06:04:15 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 06:30:35 -!- pem [n=pem@159.226.35.246] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:09:11 alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 11:21:25 pem [n=pem@159.226.35.246] has joined #ccl 11:37:06 -!- jauaor [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [] 11:56:07 -!- sellout [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 12:39:09 -!- pem [n=pem@159.226.35.246] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:39:32 sellout [n=greg@guest-fw.dc4.itasoftware.com] has joined #ccl 12:53:56 segv [n=mb@p4FC1CB02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 13:23:18 mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@66.92.71.19] has joined #ccl 14:04:57 Fare [n=Fare@c-98-216-111-110.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 14:05:11 I'm getting a weird error while loading cl+ssl -- where #$O_NONBLOCK is not eagerly-enough loaded, it seems. 14:05:27 loaded in a different setting, it works 14:05:40 but somehow my environment is setup in a way that makes it fail 14:06:06 Foreign variable "O_NONBLOCK" not found 14:09:38 indeed, that's a problem with cl+ssl from trunk, that the ITA version of cl+ssl doesn't seem to have 14:11:45 Fare: can you try at CCL r12401? 14:12:02 I'm using CCL working-0711 r12415 14:12:30 Oh, you're in the ITA branch ... hold on. 14:13:05 r12402 in trunk changes #$ 14:14:13 background: while trying XCVB on QRes, we updated some libraries before we migrated them from ASDF to XCVB 14:14:17 It looks like 12410 merged that into working-0711, so can you try the revsion before that? 14:14:18 worked fine with SBCL 14:14:26 but SBCL these days tends to run out of memory 14:14:40 I tried with 12161 before -- same error 14:14:47 or was it a different error? 14:14:54 damn it, I don't remember 14:15:26 Ah, ok :/ 14:15:50 *Fare* asks his emacs buffer if *it* remembers... 14:18:47 *Fare* also had to patch ASDF, CLOSER2MOP to make CCL happy 14:19:12 (and ADG, XCVB, cl-launch, but that's par for the course) 14:20:26 *Fare* retries with 12161 14:21:20 different error, indeed 14:25:13 (and this one, legitimate) 14:25:41 so, is the new #$ broken? 14:27:55 Well, it has changed. If you're back to the legit error with r12408 on the branch, then yeah, I'd say that's what broke. 14:32:05 OK, then let's declare the new #$ broken 14:32:14 I hope there's a fix soon :) 14:46:11 bfulgham__ [n=brent@adsl-69-234-124-120.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ccl 15:03:27 -!- bfulgham_ [n=brent@adsl-69-234-124-120.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:06:38 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-112-40.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 15:11:19 milanj [n=milan@79.101.197.158] has joined #ccl 15:12:24 -!- bfulgham__ [n=brent@adsl-69-234-124-120.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:40:45 oops, I was using SBCL 15:40:59 12161 and 12415 both bork on cl+ssl from HEAD 15:41:05 The only change to #$ that I'm aware of is that #$FOO will try to look up FOO as a variable (rather than err) if attempts to find a constant definition for FOO fail 15:42:30 oh wait -- this is the very same cl+ssl as used by ITA, no update 15:42:40 the only changes were the module insertions 15:42:55 and the code is known to work when compiled "normally" 15:43:03 is there something wrong about my optimization settings? 15:44:16 hum. 15:44:39 Read error between positions 6059 and 6184 in /ita/trunk/qres/lisp/libs/cl+ssl/streams.lisp.Constant not \ 15:44:39 found: X86-LINUX64::O_NONBLOCK 15:45:01 why would that possibly compile in one case and not the other? 15:45:20 maybe because I haven't loaded SLIME ? 15:45:30 The lisp itself wouldn't build if it couldn't resolve #$O_NONBLOCK. I can't think of how optimization settings would affect that; the reader macro winds up doing something like (DEFCONSTANT OS:::O_NONBLOCK ) and returns the symbol OS::O_NONBLOCK. 15:46:04 -!- milanj [n=milan@79.101.197.158] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:46:30 milanj [n=milan@93.87.192.84] has joined #ccl 15:49:05 the file declaims its own optimization settings, so that's not the discrepancy 15:49:09 (truename "ccl:") 15:49:11 ? 15:49:18 *macroexpand-hook* is FUNCALL, so ADG hasn't been setup yet 15:50:04 (TRUENAME "ccl:") => #P"/ita/local/lib/common-lisp/images/" 15:50:07 interesting 15:50:15 yet, I'm exporting CCL_DIRECTORY 15:51:19 or should it be a different environment variable? 15:51:37 CCL_DEFAULT_DIRECTORY. 15:51:43 should have been #P"/ita/chroot-v5/usr/local/ccl/working-0711-12415/" 15:51:46 oops 15:52:57 thanks! 15:53:07 np 15:57:04 *Fare* tweaks packages as the new closer-to-mop shadows some symbols in CCL's :common-lisp package... 16:01:00 whoa, that gets me invalid memory operations in CCL::UPDATE-OBSOLETE-INSTANCE 16:29:57 omg, I think I'm hitting some qres-specific madness here... 16:30:13 the same file loaded twice, with different macro definitions... 16:45:51 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-112-40.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 16:46:15 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-112-40.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 16:48:10 jwright: here's what I do. 16:48:21 svn co http://bknr.net/svn/ediware 16:49:54 then, in ccl-init.lisp, put something like this http://paste.lisp.org/display/83926 16:50:13 (alter paths to suit) 16:51:25 rme: wrong channel! 16:51:26 argh. totally wrong channel. 16:52:24 does ccl now have an option to be started w/o threads being spawned? 16:52:36 I had code to do that, but it was awkward and has bitrotten 16:52:50 No, why on earth would it ? 16:52:58 to be able to fork 16:54:20 I don't really want to argue about this all over again, but no, there's no support for fork-without-exec, 16:55:18 . 16:55:18 if I added it again, would you merge it in? 16:55:33 (dependent on a flag, off by default) 16:55:51 And maintain it ? No. 16:56:35 I could maintain it. And provide regression tests 16:57:01 Like I said, I really don't want to argue about this again. 16:57:04 roygbiv [n=blank@pdpc/supporter/active/roygbiv] has joined #ccl 16:57:06 sorry 17:12:04 -!- roygbiv [n=blank@pdpc/supporter/active/roygbiv] has quit [simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 17:12:04 -!- milanj [n=milan@93.87.192.84] has quit [simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 17:14:48 roygbiv [n=blank@pdpc/supporter/active/roygbiv] has joined #ccl 17:17:30 milanj [n=milan@93.87.192.84] has joined #ccl 17:37:21 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-112-40.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 17:37:21 -!- mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@66.92.71.19] has quit [simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 17:37:21 -!- sellout [n=greg@guest-fw.dc4.itasoftware.com] has quit [simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 17:38:11 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-112-40.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 17:38:11 mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@66.92.71.19] has joined #ccl 17:38:11 sellout [n=greg@guest-fw.dc4.itasoftware.com] has joined #ccl 18:00:06 -!- gz [n=gz@209-6-18-72.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 18:03:39 gz [n=gz@209-6-18-72.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 18:21:10 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-112-40.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 18:21:10 -!- sellout [n=greg@guest-fw.dc4.itasoftware.com] has quit [simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 18:21:10 -!- mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@66.92.71.19] has quit [simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 18:25:19 sellout [n=greg@guest-fw.dc4.itasoftware.com] has joined #ccl 18:25:54 mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@ds9.entity.com] has joined #ccl 18:26:52 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-112-40.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 18:42:35 -!- Fare [n=Fare@c-98-216-111-110.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:31:22 jauaor [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #ccl 19:55:34 -!- roygbiv [n=blank@pdpc/supporter/active/roygbiv] has left #ccl 20:19:04 -!- sellout [n=greg@guest-fw.dc4.itasoftware.com] has quit [] 21:06:07 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 21:10:42 alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 22:31:43 -!- milanj [n=milan@93.87.192.84] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:29:48 -!- lisppaste5 [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Want lisppaste5 in your channel? 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