00:05:46 -!- dat [n=dthomp@dyn-188-dynamic.linfield.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:20:23 RamzaB [n=lobomonh@ip72-197-207-250.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ccl 00:20:26 -!- RamzaB [n=lobomonh@ip72-197-207-250.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #ccl 00:54:31 sellout [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 01:23:06 gbyers: I'm not sure the right forum to ask this in, but have you attempted to run RMCL on Snow Leopard? 01:24:10 -!- bfulgham is now known as bfulgham|away 02:53:10 bfulgham [n=brent@adsl-69-234-130-247.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ccl 03:00:06 mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@ds9.entity.com] has joined #ccl 04:24:35 -!- billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 05:04:36 I'm using &aux and feeling guilty about it 05:09:08 I think that >20 years ago it may have generated better code than a LET/LET*, though I can't remember why. 05:17:16 It's kind of strange how I've picked up the habit of always using LET* and also using SETQ when it's possible to do so (rather then always using SETF, which I used to do). 05:22:46 The style used in the ccl sources rubs off on you after a while, apparently. 05:30:17 So THAT's what that is ... 05:54:00 Huh. There's an experimental ARM port of Solaris. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/osarm/ 08:10:10 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-116-145.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 09:03:49 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [shutting down] 09:04:16 ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #ccl 09:04:16 -!- irc.freenode.net has set mode +o ChanServ 09:10:05 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 09:10:12 ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #ccl 09:10:12 -!- irc.freenode.net has set mode +o ChanServ 09:37:02 billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl 11:11:00 -!- jajcloz [n=jaj@pool-71-184-170-197.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 11:35:50 -!- sellout [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 11:58:49 -!- alms [n=alms@209-150-48-250.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 12:05:09 -!- mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@ds9.entity.com] has quit [] 12:25:31 sellout [n=greg@guest-fw.dc4.itasoftware.com] has joined #ccl 13:04:51 when you people went from linux to supporting say solaris or freebsd, how did you build the lisp-image for those systems? 13:13:39 -!- sellout [n=greg@guest-fw.dc4.itasoftware.com] has quit [] 13:19:29 gbyers is the guy who did most of that work, but I'm pretty sure it was done with a cross-compiler and cross-loader, compiling the new system and building a bootstrapping image in one architecture, then loading it to complete the process in the other. 13:20:06 ouch. sounds hard. 13:20:54 i've managed to get the lisp-kernel to compile and create a binary on netbsd/amd64 by brutal hacking, but i'm stuck with the image issue. 13:21:17 Well, the compiler is just a transformer from s-expressions to bits in a fasl file. That you're compiling code for another system only matters in that the macros have to run in the current system 13:22:31 Talk to gbyers. He can likely help you out. 13:23:06 rme did the 32-bit port, so he probably understands that stuff too 13:23:11 But he's not in channel at present 13:23:34 no worries. the shit i got isnt very useful anyway i bet. 13:25:53 Whenever you do (rebuild-ccl), it builds a bootstrapping image, and runs it to load the lisp from fasls, finally doing save-application to make the final image 13:38:56 sellout [n=greg@18.190.3.195] has joined #ccl 14:05:16 dat [n=dthomp@98.98.142.230] has joined #ccl 14:07:44 -!- sellout [n=greg@18.190.3.195] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:44:40 -!- bfulgham [n=brent@adsl-69-234-130-247.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [] 15:01:39 bfulgham [n=brent@wsip-72-215-191-226.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ccl 15:08:25 -!- bfulgham|away [n=brent@wsip-72-215-191-226.sb.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:28:55 milanj [n=milan@77.46.219.35] has joined #ccl 15:32:52 -!- mdc [n=mdc@ds9.entity.com] has quit [] 15:38:16 ccl:compiler;X86;X8664;x8664-backend.lisp contains conditionalized definitions of the existing x8664 "backends", where a "backend" is a combination of CPU architecture and OS. 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