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14:52:48 <vatic> Hi- I'm a newbie to ccl and common lisp. I was able to successfully install Albert via asdf, but when I "require 'albert", ccl can't find the modules. I assume I need to add something (like ~/.asdf-install-dir/systems") to *module-search-path*, but I'm having trouble figuring out to do/say such a thing.
14:56:40 <billstclair> The usual incantation is something like:
14:56:42 <billstclair> (pushnew (truename (merge-pathnames path *source-directory*))              asdf:*central-registry*)
14:56:46 <billstclair> (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op system)
14:56:55 <billstclair> Where system would be :albert in your case
14:57:21 <billstclair> After (require "asdf"), of course
14:58:06 <billstclair> Assuming there's an "albert.asd" file
14:58:34 <billstclair> It's the directory contains "albert.asd" that you want to push on asdf:*central-registry*&
14:58:43 <billstclair> "&" was a typo
14:58:54 <billstclair> vatic?
14:59:07 <vatic> billstclair: thanks! Let me fiddle around with that a bit and see...
14:59:12 <billstclair> k
15:01:24 <vatic> billstclair: one thing you're implying here is that I need to read the asdf documentation, right?
15:01:39 <billstclair> I've never bothered with that. Those two forms manage to load most systems
15:01:55 <vatic> billstclair: ok
15:02:21 <billstclair> Add the dir to *central-registry* and (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op ...)
15:02:51 <billstclair> Wy there isn't just an (asdf:load ...), I don't know
15:03:26 <billstclair> Actually, there is, but it appears to be a function to load one file
15:04:44 <gbyers> There is some way of getting REQUIRE and one or both of ASDF/ASDF-INSTALL integrated, but I seldom use ASDF and don't remember what it is.
15:07:30 <vatic> billstclair: so it's "home:.asdf-install-dir;systems;" that I want to substitute for "path *source-directory*" above?
15:07:59 <billstclair> Don't know. Never used asdf-install.
15:08:13 <vatic> billstclair: Ah! ;-)
15:08:38 <billstclair> I've seen references to it and told myself I should learn about it, but I never have.
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15:54:39 <vatic> billstclair:  Looks like:
15:54:41 <vatic> (require :asdf)
15:54:51 <vatic> (pushnew "~/.asdf-install-dir/systems/" asdf:*central-registry* :test #'equal)
15:55:02 <vatic> (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op :albert)
15:55:24 <billstclair> Ooh. I didn't know you didn't have to push the albert directory itself
15:55:38 <vatic> does the trick, but now I'm having difficulties with the CWD (I think) in the ccl-listener.
15:56:13 <vatic> billstclair: "~/.asdf-install-dir/systems/" is the "personal" install directory that ASDF uses.
15:56:31 <billstclair> I know. But it has an "albert" sub-directory, doesn't it?
15:56:44 <vatic> so you're just pushing that path onto the *central-registry*
15:57:27 <vatic> No. There's an "albert.asd" in "~/.asdf-install-dir/systems/". Actually a symlink.
15:57:40 <billstclair> OK. So that makes sense
15:57:44 <vatic> SO that would work for all asdf packages.
15:58:13 <billstclair> It should work for all packages installed with asdf-install
15:58:14 <vatic> After all this (provisionally) you don't need to require :albert
15:58:21 <billstclair> right
15:58:23 <vatic> yup
15:58:48 <billstclair> Note that putting "~" in a pathname isn't portable
15:59:00 <vatic> billstclair: do you know how to change the current working directory inthe ccl listener IDE?
15:59:05 <vatic> thanks re: ~
15:59:09 <billstclair> Not off the top of my head
15:59:28 <vatic> billstclair: ok, I'll move to the terminal version then...
15:59:37 <vatic> billstclair: thanks again for your help!
15:59:47 <billstclair> You're most welcome. Glad you figured it out.
15:59:49 <vatic> Have to run...
16:00:02 <gbyers> ? :cd "~?
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16:00:28 <gbyers> -> #P"/Users/gb"
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16:00:30 <billstclair> I'm currently using Slime for all my CCL work. It's all in Linux, so the IDE isn't applicable
16:00:56 <vatic> gbye
16:01:09 <billstclair> bye vatic
16:01:23 <vatic> gbyers: Thanks. I couldn't find that in the ccl documentation for some reason.
16:01:50 <gbyers> I think that it's there (think I saw it recently).  Not IDE-specific.
16:02:20 <vatic> Thanks again both of you! Bye...
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