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(brute force is ok, i dont care as long as clozure works and i can play with it :D ) 12:12:30 comes up everytime someone tries to use debian (and therefore clc). 12:12:47 don't use clc (and therefore debian packages) to manage your lisp code. 12:13:08 i guess you mean i should install slime from the cvs and remove the apt-get'ed version 12:13:12 exactly. 12:13:17 curses 12:13:26 you're already using your own ccl, so that's a good start. 12:13:35 and installing slime from cvs is trivial. 12:13:53 you'll just have to add the (add-to-list 'load-path "/path/to/slime/") to your .emacs yourself. 12:14:04 i actually moved from netbsd ( my usual system ) to debian because i wanted to use my ibook to play with common lisp and not deal with the darth of support for *bsds 12:14:08 looks like there is no easy way out 12:14:37 yep no problems on the slime bit, have done that before.. 12:14:45 it may not be as simple as apt-get install my-lisp-package, but it's still really easy. 12:14:57 a little OT question though, saw in the wiki that I can asdf-install CLX, does stumwm work ok with clozure? 12:15:08 never tried it. 12:15:11 ok 12:15:21 thanks a bunch kind sir 12:15:22 though, afaicr, stump uses cffi so there shouldn't be a problem. 12:15:25 n 12:15:35 i will do as you suggest 12:15:38 get rid of the debian cruft 12:15:41 (cffi being the C bridge compatability layer) 12:16:27 roger that 12:16:52 i have used SBCL , wanted to try clozure as I had a PPC 12:16:59 and see how it works 12:17:15 segv_: what do you think of clojure ? do people come in here mistaking this for that? 12:17:23 not yet. 12:17:57 i'm really too busy working in common lisp to spend time looking at clojure, but i think that either way it's a well needed breath of fresh air. 12:18:19 besides, this is #ccl, hard to confuse it with #clojure 12:18:24 i come from a scheme background , i dont see why we need another lisp-1 over scheme .. 12:18:54 a part of me agrees, and a part of me is just happy that something, anything, in the lisp world is getting wider visibility. 12:19:09 and i like the built-in immutable message passing concurrency model. 12:19:10 a lot. 12:19:16 oh well, havent tried it, i am currently just working through OnLisp really.. 12:19:36 and i'm really ambivalent on the lisp-1 vs lisp-2 issue. 12:20:47 i dont really know enough to comment.. CL suits my needs very well so far 12:21:30 me too. 12:21:41 and clojure certainly isn't making my job any harder. 13:10:18 -!- mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@67.111.52.130.ptr.us.xo.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:27:24 anRch [n=markmill@nmd.sbx07258.melroma.wayport.net] has joined #ccl 13:33:18 -!- segv_ [n=mb@p4FC1E38B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:33:51 segv_ [n=mb@p4FC1FF76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 14:26:10 -!- anRch [n=markmill@nmd.sbx07258.melroma.wayport.net] has left #ccl 14:45:42 sellout [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 14:54:16 milanj [n=milan@79.101.196.242] has joined #ccl 15:16:57 mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@67.111.52.130.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ccl 15:19:12 -!- mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@67.111.52.130.ptr.us.xo.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:19:47 mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@67.111.52.130.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ccl 16:44:34 -!- mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@67.111.52.130.ptr.us.xo.net] has quit [] 17:32:14 -!- milanj [n=milan@79.101.196.242] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:36:32 milanj [n=milan@79.101.169.46] has joined #ccl 20:41:46 alms [n=alms@209-150-48-250.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 20:45:44 gbyers [n=gb@c-68-35-7-222.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 20:53:53 -!- jauaor [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [] 21:00:25 H4ns [n=hans@p57A0C7AB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 21:17:35 -!- H4ns1 [n=hans@p57A0FB67.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:48:23 mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@nat/google/x-10d9af3239d1939a] has joined #ccl 22:18:28 jauaor [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #ccl 22:37:16 -!- billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:40:58 billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl