00:14:58 alms [n=alms@209-150-48-250.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 00:29:07 jauaor [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #ccl 00:29:11 hello all 00:29:18 :-) 00:32:42 ccl 1.2 00:32:50 current stable version right? 00:34:45 xristos [n=x@dns.suspicious.org] has joined #ccl 00:41:23 yes. what's the issue ? 00:45:52 gbyers_ [n=gb@c-68-35-7-222.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 00:45:52 -!- gbyers [n=gb@c-68-35-7-222.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:46:10 -!- gbyers_ is now known as gbyers 00:52:17 gbyers_ [n=gb@c-68-35-7-222.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 00:52:17 -!- gbyers [n=gb@c-68-35-7-222.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:52:39 -!- gbyers_ is now known as gbyers 00:54:17 mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@ds9.entity.com] has joined #ccl 01:22:32 *jauaor* finishes eating and install 01:22:36 gbyers: just asking 01:25:38 nice, works perfect 01:30:18 *mdc_mobile* is now the owner of an ipod touch v2 01:50:36 jauaor: glad. 01:50:57 :-) 01:51:18 *jauaor* feels like engaging in some lisp hacking ..... 02:03:47 mdc: have you jailbroken it yet ? 02:04:21 gbyers: not yet 02:59:40 gbyers_ [n=gb@c-68-35-7-222.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 02:59:40 -!- gbyers [n=gb@c-68-35-7-222.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:00:09 -!- gbyers_ is now known as gbyers 03:48:07 bfulgham_ [n=brent@adsl-69-234-120-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ccl 03:54:52 -!- alms [n=alms@209-150-48-250.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 03:56:12 $ ccl 03:56:21 mm... 03:56:26 $ ccl 03:56:29 argh 03:56:54 $ ccl /usr/local/bin/ccl: line 41: /usr/local/bin/dppccl: No such file or directory /usr/local/bin/ccl: line 41: exec: /usr/local/bin/dppccl: cannot execute: No such file or directory 03:57:15 Trying to get the ccl shell script working ... it gets that error 03:58:44 alms [n=alms@209-150-48-250.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 03:58:47 Is there a dppccl in /usr/local/bin ? If so, that's a strange place for it; it's usually inside a directory named "ccl". 04:10:42 -!- alms [n=alms@209-150-48-250.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 04:13:50 -!- mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@ds9.entity.com] has quit [] 04:16:49 jauaor: How did you create /usr/local/bin/ccl? 05:21:23 -!- gz [n=gz@209-6-158-10.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:15:29 sellout: I just copied from the .dmg into that directory 06:16:34 gbyers: I am following , http://ccl.clozure.com/manual/chapter2.3.html#The-ccl-Shell-Script 06:18:28 You copied the whole ccl directory into /usr/local/bin ? 06:21:19 oh .. mmm 06:22:09 I am following this: 06:22:12 Copy the script to a directory that is on your PATH 06:22:16 gbyers: ^ 06:23:04 script = ccl/scripts/ccl or ccl/scripts/ccl64, right ? 06:23:38 Correct, I guessed so, those are the exact instructions from the web site 06:23:55 I copied 'ccl' 06:24:21 And I don't find dppccl anywhere 06:24:56 Whoops. Just need to copy the script, and edit it so that it knows where the ccl directory is. 06:25:39 right, I edited the variable CCL_DEFAULT_DIRECTORY 06:25:48 let me check the whole script again 06:31:55 argh, nothing 06:32:09 *jauaor* tried copying the whole ccl into a new location 06:32:23 it is asking for a dppccl binary ... I don't have it :-P 06:32:59 You're running the 'ccl' script, not 'ccl64' ? 06:33:23 correct, I am running ccl 06:34:03 That's for 32-bit lisps, which are only available for the PPC as of 1.2. 06:34:29 oooh 06:34:32 mm.. 06:37:51 gbyers: CCL_DEFAULT_DIRECTORY, should point to the directory containing the 'cc' binary or to the directory with all the sources ? 06:39:33 A directory that contains other directories named "compiler", etc,, files named "dx86cl64" etc., and is probably named"ccl". 06:39:58 get iit 06:40:01 doing that now 06:40:37 awesome, it works now! 06:42:32 Great. If you re-read the docs, are they clear in hindsight ? 06:55:30 well.. my english is not perfect 06:55:42 I got a bit confused with the 'ccl' directory path 06:56:06 And the fact that if it was talking about the executable or the directory itself 06:56:37 From: http://ccl.clozure.com/manual/chapter2.3.html#The-ccl-Shell-Script 06:56:53 It seems like, 1 refers to the binary, and 2 refers to the directory 06:57:50 Yes; it should try harder to be clear about that. 07:01:37 gz [n=gz@209-6-18-72.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 07:06:54 gbyers: it looks working perfect now 07:09:20 Great; have fun! 07:15:00 :-D 07:32:12 -!- H4ns1 is now known as H4ns 08:31:40 -!- gz [n=gz@209-6-18-72.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:11:18 gz [n=gz@209-6-18-72.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 10:16:01 gbyers_ [n=gb@c-68-35-7-222.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 10:16:01 -!- gbyers [n=gb@c-68-35-7-222.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:46:03 -!- gbyers_ is now known as gbyers 11:04:03 -!- gz [n=gz@209-6-18-72.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:22:36 alms [n=alms@209-150-48-250.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 12:09:02 H4ns1 [n=Hans@p57BB965A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ccl 12:09:20 -!- H4ns [n=Hans@p57BB97D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:09:21 -!- H4ns1 is now known as H4ns 12:44:56 gz [n=gz@209-6-18-72.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 13:25:20 segv: where did you put the screenshots? 13:46:03 alms: forgot to attache them. 13:46:24 Do you want to attach them, or zip them up and put them on Master? 13:46:32 Either one is fine with me. 13:46:52 4.4MB of images, uploading to master now. 13:50:30 10kb/sec, is this normal? 13:51:09 (OT: does the iPod touch have a camera?) 13:54:12 segv: no 13:58:57 10kb/sec is not normal for mastre 13:59:10 master 14:00:06 h4ns: thanks. too bad though. 14:00:10 alms: did you get them? 14:00:28 no. 14:00:35 Is the upload to master finished? 14:00:56 I'm pulling them down now, thanks. 14:02:27 segv: any chance you can number these, i.e. put leading numbers in the file names? 14:13:47 alms: doing it now. 14:14:55 alms: do you want them in the order i took them? or in the order i think they'd be shown in? 14:15:00 (they're almost the same) 14:17:11 anRch [n=markmill@m175a36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #ccl 14:25:45 milanj [n=milan@77.46.169.122] has joined #ccl 14:38:22 Upload speed to master is most likely limited by the connection you are sending from (which are usually asymmetrical in capacity (e.g. 6mbit/768kbit cable/dsl)) You could also do a traceroute to master to potentially see where where the slowdown is. 14:41:32 mdc: the last upload went at 140kb/sec. i have no idea what was going on before. 14:42:13 (this is not the right channel for clozure stuff. moving back to #ccl) 14:42:18 back to #clozure 14:53:18 -!- sellout [n=greg@12.191.171.2] has quit [] 15:12:56 -!- bfulgham_ [n=brent@adsl-69-234-120-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [] 15:46:28 -!- anRch [n=markmill@m175a36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [] 16:18:13 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-85-95.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 16:35:54 -!- bfulgham [n=brent@wsip-72-215-191-226.sb.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 16:40:26 bfulgham [n=brent@wsip-72-215-191-226.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ccl 16:52:17 Will the CCL IDE fundraising drive be posted to the Clozure CL Blog so it hits the front page of Planet Lisp? 16:57:22 That'd be kind of tacky, wouldn't it? 16:59:57 -!- jajcloz [n=jaj@12.191.171.34] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:00:55 jajcloz [n=jaj@12.191.171.81] has joined #ccl 17:11:18 -!- jauaor [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [] 17:39:14 rme_ [n=rme@pool-68-238-4-78.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 17:47:23 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-85-95.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:22:39 I think if it's presented the right way, it wouldn't be tacky. 18:22:47 rme_: not in my opinion. but if you don't, I will! 18:22:57 jauaor [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #ccl 18:23:19 and if you like, I'll make my post tackier than you can possibly imagine 18:23:31 :-) 18:23:35 Feel free. 18:23:43 plus, I'll promise a sweatshirt, mug, and "best of barry manilow" CD to those who give $200 or more! 18:23:50 There are more details I want to put together, but fine if you want to jump the gun. 18:24:02 ok, if you're waiting to put together a proper announcement, I'll wait 18:24:22 k. 18:24:27 That's good motivation for me. 18:24:46 I don't know if I'll get to it today, but if not, then tomorrow. (I'm home with a sick kid today.) 18:27:53 chandler: and if people contribute $300 or more, you can offer *not* to send the "best of barry manilow" CD! 18:28:15 ooh. new concepts in fundraising! 18:29:23 Edi could donate a carton of NIL cigarettes. 19:11:39 -!- jauaor [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has left #ccl 19:15:06 jauaor [n=araujo@190.37.174.213] has joined #ccl 20:07:17 -!- gbyers [n=gb@c-68-35-7-222.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:12:44 gbyers [n=gb@c-68-35-7-222.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 20:42:46 -!- rme_ is now known as rme 20:46:58 sellout [n=greg@da001d0478.smr-ga.osd.concentric.net] has joined #ccl 21:00:16 H4ns1 [n=hans@p57A0D1EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 21:01:49 -!- sellout [n=greg@da001d0478.smr-ga.osd.concentric.net] has quit [] 21:18:05 -!- H4ns2 [n=hans@p57A0E702.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:26:02 -!- milanj [n=milan@77.46.169.122] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 21:44:43 fundraising drive ? 22:05:27 xristos: Clozure is trying to get money together to work on Clozure CL's Cocoa-based IDE. 22:06:34 http://clozure.com/pipermail/info-mcl/2008-October/000447.html 22:14:03 segv_ [n=mb@p4FC1D48D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 22:14:12 -!- segv [n=mb@p4FC1CAB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]