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How would I write a generic procedures in scheme, which adds a new element to a data structure independent of its concrete implementation? One way to do this is ds->list, cons, list->ds but this is inefficient. So any ideas? 2015-06-15T13:34:18Z LeoNerd: Some kind of generic function? 2015-06-15T13:35:00Z vanila: You could use an object oriented system 2015-06-15T13:35:08Z LeoNerd: *sigh* 2015-06-15T13:35:22Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-06-15T13:35:27Z LeoNerd: If all you were taught was Java and thus believe that OO is the only way to solve such problems, yes I suppose you could 2015-06-15T13:35:37Z vanila: LeoNerd, you really aren't contributing positively right now 2015-06-15T13:35:48Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T13:35:58Z LeoNerd: I mentioned a generic function 2015-06-15T13:36:13Z vanila: yeah I like that suggestion 2015-06-15T13:37:59Z oleo: the cost of type dispatch is already paid! 2015-06-15T13:38:03Z oleo: lol 2015-06-15T13:38:18Z oleo: so let's use OO 2015-06-15T13:38:21Z oleo: hahahaha 2015-06-15T13:38:21Z LeoNerd: ?? 2015-06-15T13:39:01Z ijp: gesundheit 2015-06-15T13:39:06Z LeoNerd: Perhaps you're not following what I mean by the words "generic function"? 2015-06-15T13:39:07Z oleo: faula sack you! 2015-06-15T13:39:10Z oleo: hahahaha 2015-06-15T13:39:26Z Riastradh joined #scheme 2015-06-15T13:40:40Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-15T13:40:48Z xrlk joined #scheme 2015-06-15T13:41:07Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T13:41:56Z spew joined #scheme 2015-06-15T13:45:13Z duud: no, OO is not what I want for different reasons. ds->list list->ds provides a way to write generic procedures but this approach is really inefficient in some cases. 2015-06-15T13:45:59Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-15T13:46:21Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T13:50:02Z excelsior quit (Quit: Lost terminal) 2015-06-15T13:50:40Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-06-15T13:50:57Z shum is now known as sdothum 2015-06-15T13:51:06Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T13:55:27Z cmhobbs quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-06-15T13:55:39Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-15T13:56:03Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:00:58Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:01:24Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:02:57Z vraid quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:05:46Z acarrico quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2015-06-15T14:06:02Z vraid joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:06:17Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:06:39Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:11:04Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:11:14Z Guest57052 is now known as rbryan 2015-06-15T14:11:29Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:15:57Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:16:22Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:21:16Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:21:42Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:22:54Z uber_hulk joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:24:20Z zadock quit (Quit: Leaving) 2015-06-15T14:25:04Z Kooda joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:25:23Z systemovich quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2015-06-15T14:26:22Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:26:50Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:27:19Z systemovich joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:30:10Z frkout joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:31:25Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:31:30Z frkout quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-06-15T14:31:49Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:31:57Z frkout joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:32:21Z frkout quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-06-15T14:32:42Z frkout joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:35:01Z przl quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:36:19Z synthmeat: hey, ordering some books right now, could use a suggestion or two.... 2015-06-15T14:36:34Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:36:43Z LeoNerd: I'd suggest The Art of Electronics, by H&H 2015-06-15T14:36:51Z LeoNerd: Nothing at all Scheme-related, but it's a good one :) 2015-06-15T14:36:54Z synthmeat: SICP and Schemer should get me far enough with scheme to figure out my way firhter on 2015-06-15T14:36:56Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:37:07Z synthmeat: LeoNerd: lol, dude. it's in the cart already :D 2015-06-15T14:37:12Z synthmeat: hi5 2015-06-15T14:37:17Z LeoNerd: 3rd ed.? 2015-06-15T14:37:22Z synthmeat: hell yeah 2015-06-15T14:37:25Z LeoNerd: With the foreword by Ladyada? 2015-06-15T14:37:26Z LeoNerd: :) 2015-06-15T14:37:53Z synthmeat: but let's get back to scheme thingie 2015-06-15T14:38:16Z synthmeat: i just glanced at first chapter or so of schemer, and i absolutely loved the approach 2015-06-15T14:38:39Z ijp: synthmeat: A Confederacy of Dunces. It's hilarious. 2015-06-15T14:38:39Z synthmeat: so, if that's a point of concern - will i like approach of schemer - it's not, it's fine. even great. 2015-06-15T14:39:07Z synthmeat: oh, c'mon dudes. scheme! 2015-06-15T14:41:40Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:42:08Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:44:37Z amgarching joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:45:14Z Kooda: Lisp in small pieces! 2015-06-15T14:45:41Z Kooda: I’m currently reading it (2nd edition), it’s pretty nice. 2015-06-15T14:45:42Z mario-goulart: Dilbert! 2015-06-15T14:46:53Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:47:19Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:52:12Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:52:39Z jkraemer_ joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:52:42Z synthmeat: reasoned and seasoned schemer don't really have good ratings :( 2015-06-15T14:53:41Z vanila: they're fantastic books 2015-06-15T14:54:08Z ijp: Kooda: really not appropriate for a beginner 2015-06-15T14:54:21Z pjb: of course NOT! 2015-06-15T14:54:40Z synthmeat: it is appealing to buy all three, in some OCD way 2015-06-15T14:54:41Z pjb: Since they're tome 2 and 3, following tome 1: The Little Schemer. 2015-06-15T14:54:45Z synthmeat: they're pretty cheap too 2015-06-15T14:54:57Z pjb: After The Little Schemer, you're not a beginner anymore. 2015-06-15T14:54:59Z synthmeat: yeah, those three and sicp and i'll be fine, i guess 2015-06-15T14:55:21Z ijp: synthmeat: the reasoned schemer is not as much about scheme, except insofar as it is the host language for minikanren 2015-06-15T14:55:31Z synthmeat: minikanren? 2015-06-15T14:55:44Z pjb: you'll have a lot of fun and nice afternoon snacks. 2015-06-15T14:56:03Z ijp: synthmeat: a relational ("logic") programming system 2015-06-15T14:57:31Z jkraemer_ quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-06-15T14:57:58Z synthmeat: btw, chibi-scheme looks absolutely adorable 2015-06-15T14:58:29Z przl joined #scheme 2015-06-15T14:58:34Z synthmeat: not to start a gang war here, but it's really neat and looks regulary updated 2015-06-15T14:58:38Z vanila: synthmeat any relation to synthcode? 2015-06-15T14:58:46Z synthmeat: hah, no :) 2015-06-15T14:58:47Z pjb: bah, that's nothing. watch out for pikachou-scheme soon. 2015-06-15T14:59:10Z synthmeat goes to check out pikachou 2015-06-15T14:59:56Z synthmeat: hm, can't find it anywhere 2015-06-15T15:00:02Z synthmeat: is this a joke i'm not getting? :D 2015-06-15T15:00:51Z pjb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikachu 2015-06-15T15:01:30Z walter|r joined #scheme 2015-06-15T15:01:50Z pjb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJPzwM__v4 2015-06-15T15:02:04Z ijp: synthmeat: japanese cartoon mouse 2015-06-15T15:02:12Z synthmeat: ha 2015-06-15T15:02:15Z synthmeat: ha 2015-06-15T15:02:19Z synthmeat: ha 2015-06-15T15:02:35Z pjb: It was all the rage amongst youngsters a few years ago. 2015-06-15T15:03:09Z synthmeat: i had an encyclopaedia of pokemons 2015-06-15T15:03:13Z synthmeat: in high school 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