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2015-03-10T14:06:19Z wasamasa: anything as long as it's no pastebin.com 2015-03-10T14:06:35Z wasamasa: I like github's gist for anything that needs annotations 2015-03-10T14:07:26Z wasamasa: http://paste.lisp.org/ 2015-03-10T14:08:25Z NoobieGoat joined #scheme 2015-03-10T14:08:53Z NoobieGoat: whats wrong with pastebin?? 2015-03-10T14:09:01Z WildNoobie quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-03-10T14:09:29Z vraid: everything 2015-03-10T14:09:39Z NoobieGoat: can you list 5? 2015-03-10T14:09:40Z NoobieGoat: then 2015-03-10T14:09:52Z petercommand joined #scheme 2015-03-10T14:10:05Z petercommand quit (Changing host) 2015-03-10T14:10:05Z petercommand joined #scheme 2015-03-10T14:10:45Z narendraj9 quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2015-03-10T14:11:27Z vraid: apparently they did fix the issue where copying the paste would include the pastebin line numbering, but that was a problem for a long time 2015-03-10T14:11:40Z vraid: besides that, it's full with ads 2015-03-10T14:12:26Z wasamasa: it mangles whitespace 2015-03-10T14:12:44Z wasamasa: it's blocked in places (because to be honest, it's more of a place to leak stuff than to paste code) 2015-03-10T14:13:49Z c74d quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-03-10T14:14:24Z NoobieGoat: so what should i use then? 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:: http://www.linguistic-declaration.org/index-gb.htm 2015-03-10T17:38:47Z psy_ joined #scheme 2015-03-10T17:39:14Z psy_ quit (Max SendQ exceeded) 2015-03-10T17:39:46Z psy_ joined #scheme 2015-03-10T17:44:59Z wingo quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-03-10T17:46:58Z turtleman_ quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-03-10T17:47:24Z joast joined #scheme 2015-03-10T17:48:48Z vanila joined #scheme 2015-03-10T17:49:51Z GGMethos joined #scheme 2015-03-10T17:50:14Z vanila: http://lists.scheme-reports.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/scheme-reports 2015-03-10T17:50:15Z redeemed quit (Quit: q) 2015-03-10T17:50:18Z vanila: this isn't loading for me 2015-03-10T17:50:24Z vanila: how do I access the scheme working groupML? 2015-03-10T17:50:29Z psy_ quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-03-10T17:52:07Z turtleman_ joined #scheme 2015-03-10T17:57:40Z xyh: vanila: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/scheme-reports-wg2 2015-03-10T17:57:47Z vanila: thank you :D 2015-03-10T17:59:18Z vraid quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-03-10T18:01:53Z vanila: I'm very confused 2015-03-10T18:01:56Z vanila: R7RS scheme has no gensym? 2015-03-10T18:06:08Z xyh: vanila: can you guys hack "htmlize.el" for me, to make it an "org->html" with better support to view exported org-mode file online ? (only viewing, no editing) 2015-03-10T18:06:29Z vanila: I dont think so - I've never used org-mode 2015-03-10T18:06:40Z vanila: I thought it had its own html generating thing though? 2015-03-10T18:06:58Z xyh: vanila: you see this ? :: http://the-little-language-designer.github.io/ 2015-03-10T18:07:14Z vanila: I didn't see it but it's exciting! I like the sound of the project 2015-03-10T18:08:35Z xyh: org-mode's own html generator is not as cool as htmlize.el 2015-03-10T18:08:36Z turtleman_ quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-03-10T18:09:59Z xyh: I maybe hack it myself (but I have so little time now ...) (and do not like emacs-lisp ...) 2015-03-10T18:14:26Z xyh: vanila: you are the "friend" I am refering here :: https://github.com/the-little-language-designer/cicada-nymph 2015-03-10T18:14:29Z xyh: (I remember you have an unfinished Forth interpreter) 2015-03-10T18:14:41Z vanila: yeah :D 2015-03-10T18:15:05Z vanila: I have stopped on it for a bit, but it'll be nice to learn more forth and improve it 2015-03-10T18:16:50Z xyh: I will also use it to teach a course about assembly language in my school. 2015-03-10T18:21:41Z xyh: vanila: I need helps on this, any criticism and suggestion will be useful ^-^ (when you have time, of course) 2015-03-10T18:22:20Z vanila: ok! I will read through first - but it does look very nice so far :) 2015-03-10T18:34:57Z stamourv` joined #scheme 2015-03-10T18:35:10Z stamourv` quit (Client Quit) 2015-03-10T18:36:01Z stamourv` joined #scheme 2015-03-10T18:36:04Z stamourv quit (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 2015-03-10T18:36:15Z stamourv` is now known as stamourv 2015-03-10T18:36:18Z stamourv quit (Changing host) 2015-03-10T18:36:19Z stamourv joined #scheme 2015-03-10T18:36:33Z vraid joined #scheme 2015-03-10T18:48:01Z AkashicLegend joined #scheme 2015-03-10T18:55:10Z agumonkey joined #scheme 2015-03-10T19:04:28Z akkad joined #scheme 2015-03-10T19:04:37Z alexei___ joined #scheme 2015-03-10T19:07:03Z psy_ joined #scheme 2015-03-10T19:07:15Z psy_ quit (Max SendQ exceeded) 2015-03-10T19:12:36Z mumptai quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2015-03-10T19:16:39Z alexei___ quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-03-10T19:17:58Z pecg quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1) 2015-03-10T19:20:04Z alexei___ joined #scheme 2015-03-10T19:25:19Z mumptai joined #scheme 2015-03-10T19:33:24Z masm joined #scheme 2015-03-10T19:42:27Z tmh_ quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2015-03-10T19:46:23Z alexei___ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2015-03-10T19:47:10Z tmh_ joined #scheme 2015-03-10T19:48:00Z edgar-rft quit (Quit: edgar-rft) 2015-03-10T19:49:52Z AkashicLegend quit (Quit: AkashicLegend) 2015-03-10T19:50:39Z kongtomorrow quit 2015-03-10T19:51:10Z alexei___ joined #scheme 2015-03-10T19:51:16Z AkashicLegend joined #scheme 2015-03-10T19:53:18Z tmh_ quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2015-03-10T19:56:41Z tmh_ joined #scheme 2015-03-10T19:58:46Z civodul joined #scheme 2015-03-10T20:01:44Z bb010g joined #scheme 2015-03-10T20:01:56Z davexunit quit (Quit: Later) 2015-03-10T20:04:11Z wingo joined #scheme 2015-03-10T20:07:24Z wingo quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-03-10T20:08:45Z wingo joined #scheme 2015-03-10T20:10:46Z kongtomorrow joined #scheme 2015-03-10T20:12:25Z alexei___ quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-03-10T20:15:33Z alexei___ joined #scheme 2015-03-10T20:15:45Z ovenpasta quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2015-03-10T20:24:50Z gravicappa quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2015-03-10T20:30:50Z BossKonaSegwaY joined #scheme 2015-03-10T20:33:34Z amoe quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2015-03-10T20:36:01Z kongtomorrow quit 2015-03-10T20:40:50Z hiroaki quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-03-10T20:41:03Z hiroakip quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-03-10T20:43:50Z zv joined #scheme 2015-03-10T20:48:49Z ngz joined #scheme 2015-03-10T20:53:05Z xyh quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-03-10T21:05:00Z alexei___ quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-03-10T21:14:17Z dsp quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-03-10T21:20:32Z pnkfelix joined #scheme 2015-03-10T21:20:57Z AkashicLegend quit (Quit: AkashicLegend) 2015-03-10T21:21:21Z AkashicLegend joined #scheme 2015-03-10T21:22:27Z robot-beethoven joined #scheme 2015-03-10T21:31:11Z duggiefresh quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-03-10T21:31:38Z duggiefresh joined #scheme 2015-03-10T21:32:08Z AkashicLegend quit (Quit: AkashicLegend) 2015-03-10T21:35:06Z AkashicLegend joined #scheme 2015-03-10T21:36:05Z duggiefresh quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2015-03-10T21:38:08Z masm quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2015-03-10T21:39:26Z alexei___ joined #scheme 2015-03-10T21:39:52Z wingo quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2015-03-10T21:42:57Z alezost quit (Quit: I use GNU Guix ) 2015-03-10T21:43:03Z kongtomorrow joined #scheme 2015-03-10T21:50:48Z zadock joined #scheme 2015-03-10T21:56:17Z sheilong quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2015-03-10T21:57:06Z vanila: taylanub, any thoughts on gensym? 2015-03-10T21:57:29Z taylanub: other than "useless when you have hygienic macros"? :-) 2015-03-10T21:57:44Z vanila: not the answer i wanted :P 2015-03-10T21:58:15Z vanila: that's actually a good point though 2015-03-10T21:58:57Z taylanub: I remember some library proposal, I think by jcowan, for adding features to symbols like in CL, and it seemed inane to me to be honest; it's an API that doesn't make any sort of sense; purely a historic relic 2015-03-10T21:59:18Z taylanub: symbols are just auto-interned immutable strings 2015-03-10T21:59:26Z taylanub: no more no less 2015-03-10T21:59:52Z vanila: yeah I should jst make my own pure gensym library 2015-03-10T22:00:11Z vanila: to quickly create a symbol that doesn't have a name in some set 2015-03-10T22:00:39Z vanila: or even a string 2015-03-10T22:01:15Z taylanub: the usual hack to get unique objects is to just use cons, and I guess one could be modern and use a box instead 2015-03-10T22:01:39Z vanila: yeah it's just i generate code and need fresh names, 2015-03-10T22:01:46Z vanila: was really worred when i noticed gensym missing 2015-03-10T22:01:59Z vanila: but after thinking about what you said it's not really such a big deal like I thought 2015-03-10T22:02:09Z taylanub: or be fancy and make a record type of your own type, but don't forget that theoretically, an optimizer should be allowed to deduplicate two identical objects, like if your record type has one *immutable* slot and you create two instances with the same object in that slot, those could actually become the same object in memory... 2015-03-10T22:02:30Z taylanub: the standard doesn't actually have a say on this (or might actually be the opposite of what I'm claiming) but I wouldn't rely on uniqueness if two objects are operationally equivalent 2015-03-10T22:03:55Z taylanub: vanila: it should either be your macros that generate "code" (not actual Scheme code, but expanded hygienic code), or maybe you're genuinely generating raw Scheme source code for some reason, in which case you would just use symbols and hygiene would be a matter of generating correct code 2015-03-10T22:04:14Z taylanub: generating correct source code that is 2015-03-10T22:04:24Z vanila: i mean like a .c file 2015-03-10T22:04:34Z taylanub: well, you *might* want to implement your own gensym as part of that, if you're genuinely generating Scheme source code, but it should really be a rare use-case... 2015-03-10T22:04:42Z vanila: i have to come up with names for all the variables, and gensym is a really easy way -- I can replace itw ith something better thouh 2015-03-10T22:04:48Z taylanub: vanila: oh ... well yeah, make your own "gensym" for that purpose I'd say 2015-03-10T22:05:05Z c74d is now known as Guest95461 2015-03-10T22:05:33Z taylanub: well, a gensym that returns strings I'd say, since C code isn't s-expressions; you'll be emitting strings I suppose? 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