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2014-12-06T02:47:00Z rudybot: turbofail: jcowan was seen in #scheme one week ago, saying "ACTION notes that OpenCL doesn't allow recursion", and then jcowan was seen quitting one week ago, saying "Quit: Leaving"
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2014-12-06T07:36:22Z cky: rudybot: (require srfi/13)
2014-12-06T07:36:22Z rudybot: cky: your sandbox is ready
2014-12-06T07:36:23Z rudybot: cky: Done.
2014-12-06T07:36:32Z cky: rudybot: (string-concatenate '("foo" "bar" "baz"))
2014-12-06T07:36:33Z rudybot: cky: ; Value: "foobarbaz"
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2014-12-06T08:07:30Z cky: No, but ckjy is. :-P
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2014-12-06T08:13:00Z BW^-: :)
2014-12-06T08:13:37Z BW^-: Firefox' JS VM with its asm.js optimization, vs. V8,  for embedded/distributed
2014-12-06T08:13:46Z BW^-: any opinions?
2014-12-06T08:13:46Z BW^-: cky: ^?
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2014-12-06T15:04:16Z snyp: (begin (define start (current-time)) (repeat 1000000 (+ 1 n)) (define stop (current-time)) (- stop start))
2014-12-06T15:04:21Z snyp: Is that illegal?
2014-12-06T15:10:39Z CaptainRant: Whats the fastest way to deduplicate a list? Maybe Sort+filter? Or add existing entries to a hash table?
2014-12-06T15:10:50Z fizzie: snyp: Probably -- the internal definition for stop does not occur at the beginning of a <body>.
2014-12-06T15:11:25Z Bahman: CaptainRant: I'd go with the hashmap approach...even the sets are implemented using hashmaps.
2014-12-06T15:11:34Z snyp: fizzie: it is working at guile's repl, but not when i put it in a source file.
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2014-12-06T15:12:03Z snyp: fizzie: so all definition statements must occur at the immediate beginning of a begin?
2014-12-06T15:12:12Z taylanub: snyp: 'define' forms are declarations which cannot be intervined with expressions
2014-12-06T15:12:12Z fizzie: snyp: "Definitions may occur at the beginning of a <body> (that is, the body of a lambda, let, let*, letrec, let-syntax, or letrec-syntax expression or that of a definition of an appropriate form)."
2014-12-06T15:12:28Z fizzie: ("begin" would be in the latter category.)
2014-12-06T15:12:31Z snyp: fizzie: ah
2014-12-06T15:12:46Z taylanub: (they can only be intervined at the top-level of a program or library body)
2014-12-06T15:13:11Z snyp: fizzie: so what should i use to get the time after the computation is complete?
2014-12-06T15:13:25Z snyp: let and set! ?
2014-12-06T15:13:42Z fizzie: You don't need any set!s.
2014-12-06T15:13:56Z fizzie: For the simplest possible case, you could just (- (current-time) start) without defining stop.
2014-12-06T15:14:37Z snyp: yeah i was doing that after i faced the error, just wanted to know what else i could do.
2014-12-06T15:14:50Z fizzie: Alternatively, something like (let ((start (current-time))) (do-something) (let ((stop (current-time))) (- stop start))) or so on.
2014-12-06T15:15:30Z fizzie: (That has (do-something) and the (let ((stop ...)) ...) as the body of the initial let; it'd be clearer when properly indented.)
2014-12-06T15:15:32Z snyp: yeah
2014-12-06T15:15:36Z snyp: i see
2014-12-06T15:16:17Z fizzie: I mean, technically you could (begin (define start (current-time)) (define stop #f) (do-something) (set! stop (current-time)) (- stop start)) but there doesn't seem to be a particular reason to be so imperative.
2014-12-06T15:17:36Z snyp: yeah
2014-12-06T15:17:43Z snyp: you're right
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2014-12-06T15:19:27Z fizzie: Though perhaps you could argue that something like (let ((start #f) (stop #f)) (set! start (current-time)) (do-something) (set! stop (current-time)) (- stop start)) makes the sequencing of operators particularly explicit. A matter of style, anyway.
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2014-12-06T16:51:52Z dpk: reading the spec it doesn't seem so, but: does R7RS-Small provide any way to know the value of the most positive and most negative fixnums?
2014-12-06T16:52:05Z dpk: failing that, does the Chibi Scheme implementation?
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2014-12-06T17:08:29Z ecraven: dpk: the standard doesn't. chibi certainly has some way internally
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2014-12-06T17:57:45Z Riastradh: I put out paredit 24.  No changes in several months, but I figured it was time to make 24 happen.
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2014-12-06T18:52:51Z pjb: Riastradh: thank you.
2014-12-06T18:53:02Z pjb: (will try it this week end).
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2014-12-06T21:11:27Z scmaccal: hi
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2014-12-06T22:56:42Z BW^-: Wow, SpiderMonkey is 2-7x faster than V8 for Emscripten-output code
2014-12-06T22:57:41Z BW^-: 6x on the first execution, V8 then makes optimizations that makes it at first 7x slower and then eventually 3x
2014-12-06T22:58:05Z BW^-: cojy: so there's a winner re JS execution :)
2014-12-06T23:02:22Z BW^-: (however SpiderMonkey is still ~17x slower than native code)
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2014-12-06T23:24:58Z BW^-: ok not so cool.
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2014-12-06T23:46:44Z teurastaja: Besides picobit, what research was done on compiler implementation on microcontrollers?
2014-12-06T23:47:13Z teurastaja: *of scheme of course
2014-12-06T23:48:10Z teurastaja: Surely its not restricted to PICs is it?
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2014-12-06T23:55:01Z teurastaja: Ok ill try something a wee bit simpler: anyone here implemented a scheme compiler in C?
2014-12-06T23:57:44Z teurastaja: Anyone here alive at all?
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2014-12-06T23:59:50Z teurastaja: (filter ping user-list)