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2014-12-04T05:07:58Z azathoth99: more power than you can possibly imagine!
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2014-12-04T07:48:06Z MichaelRaskin: I wonder if any Schemers in Moscow would settle for a Common Lisp day job if offered
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2014-12-04T08:10:53Z pnpuff: MichaelRaskin: why not in Yakutsk ?
2014-12-04T08:11:56Z MichaelRaskin: Well, I see there _are_ Moscow schemers in the channel
2014-12-04T08:13:28Z MichaelRaskin: And writing code without talking in person with some of the users doesn't work well for our system.
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2014-12-04T08:18:49Z Riastradh: MichaelRaskin: Apropos of Moscow, I'm hearing a rumour that Github is being blocked in Russia.  If that's where you are -- do you observe this?
2014-12-04T08:19:45Z MichaelRaskin: Yep, it is blocked in Russia.
2014-12-04T08:20:15Z pnpuff: It's true
2014-12-04T08:20:23Z MichaelRaskin: One could argue that people not capable to work around that shouldn't be programmers; but user downloading of releases from GitHub does suffer
2014-12-04T08:22:19Z MichaelRaskin: (Tor + badvpn-tun2socks + ip route work around the issue for my personal notebook)
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2014-12-04T19:40:22Z hypermagic: hello my friends
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2014-12-04T20:19:00Z mlaine: hi
2014-12-04T20:19:18Z mlaine: interested in scheme; any recommended compilers?
2014-12-04T20:20:08Z mlaine: how's stalin?
2014-12-04T20:21:27Z mlaine: maybe gambit?
2014-12-04T20:26:33Z turbofail: stalin is a toy, that happens to go really fast
2014-12-04T20:26:52Z taylanub: mlaine: http://wingolog.org/archives/2013/01/07/an-opinionated-guide-to-scheme-implementations
2014-12-04T20:26:53Z rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/b3fjhzx
2014-12-04T20:27:25Z mlaine: taylanub: cheers
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2014-12-04T21:15:08Z mlaine: went with gambit :)
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2014-12-04T23:17:39Z goglosh: guys I want your opinion on something
2014-12-04T23:18:20Z ijp: yes, it does make your ass look fat
2014-12-04T23:18:31Z goglosh: k thanks
2014-12-04T23:18:46Z goglosh: now to the next matter
2014-12-04T23:19:40Z goglosh: I know a lot of people have thought of a scheme-emacs (and there are ongoing instances of such projects)
2014-12-04T23:20:22Z goglosh: but I've been thinking on something that's less oriented towards texted and more towards being an actual user interface
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2014-12-04T23:22:03Z goglosh: cause, you know, emacs is mainly about text editing, but I'd like to include more general tasks
2014-12-04T23:22:24Z ecraven: goglosh: for example?
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2014-12-04T23:22:48Z ecraven: also, for me, emacs is much more than text editing :) chatting, reading emails, surfing the web, even some basic image editing..
2014-12-04T23:22:57Z goglosh: ^ exactly
2014-12-04T23:23:07Z goglosh: but it's originally a text editor
2014-12-04T23:23:31Z goglosh: so all those tasks build on a, say an API for text editing
2014-12-04T23:24:31Z ijp: ecraven: I think goglosh is proposing a new widget toolkit
2014-12-04T23:24:39Z goglosh: basically
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2014-12-04T23:25:28Z ecraven: goglosh: it's not that simple :) a lot of the internal APIs are not text-centered
2014-12-04T23:25:36Z ecraven: but of course it could be done better today :)
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2014-12-04T23:26:09Z goglosh: ecraven sure, I'm missing some details
2014-12-04T23:27:50Z goglosh: It's still just an idea of course
2014-12-04T23:33:21Z goglosh: something like a scheme-based compromise between emacs and screen
2014-12-04T23:34:10Z goglosh: more system-oriented, rather than building up on top of a text editor. And yeah, keeping things simple
2014-12-04T23:34:20Z goglosh: KISS-compliant, sort of.
2014-12-04T23:34:41Z goglosh: Anyway, do you guys think it's an awful idea?
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2014-12-04T23:35:47Z turbofail: there's libruin
2014-12-04T23:35:56Z turbofail: though i don't know how well-maintained that is
2014-12-04T23:36:07Z turbofail: probably not at all
2014-12-04T23:37:55Z ecraven: goglosh: do you know about Edwin?
2014-12-04T23:38:42Z goglosh: turbofail yeah, no stable releases, but it's kind of my idea too
2014-12-04T23:38:47Z goglosh: ecraven no lemme check
2014-12-04T23:38:59Z ecraven: part of mit/gnu scheme, a Scheme Emacs :)
2014-12-04T23:40:23Z goglosh: seriously? it does exist?
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2014-12-04T23:42:39Z goglosh: damn I've had this all long
2014-12-04T23:44:00Z goglosh: thanks
2014-12-04T23:45:54Z ecraven: :) it's not at all perfect, but it *does* work :)
2014-12-04T23:46:14Z ecraven: at the very least it provides an example of how to do a more modern emacs-like editor
2014-12-04T23:47:27Z goglosh: yeah kind of :P
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