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(lambda (x y z) '(x y z)) or (lambda (x y z) (x y z)) or something else maybe with quasiquote? 2014-11-27T07:40:39Z ska-fan: Nevermind, it's probably (lambda (x y z) (list x y z)). :-) 2014-11-27T07:42:23Z ska-fan: Or without list which I haven't defined yet: (lambda (x y z) (cons x (cons y (cons z '())))) 2014-11-27T07:44:34Z kongtomorrow joined #scheme 2014-11-27T07:44:56Z ecraven: ska-fan: exactly :) 2014-11-27T07:45:21Z ecraven: the first one would have returned a list of 'x, 'y and 'z (not their values), the second one would have applied x to parameters y and z 2014-11-27T07:48:57Z civodul joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:00:53Z frkout_ joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:04:46Z frkout quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2014-11-27T08:07:37Z nisstyre quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2014-11-27T08:11:47Z kazimir42 quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2014-11-27T08:17:21Z fridim_ joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:27:22Z eagleflo quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-11-27T08:28:42Z eagleflo joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:29:42Z eagleflo quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-11-27T08:31:13Z eagleflo joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:32:39Z pjdelport quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2014-11-27T08:36:21Z nisstyre joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:39:32Z ASau joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:42:02Z masm joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:44:32Z psy quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-11-27T08:45:01Z excelsior joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:47:53Z psy joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:49:07Z redeemed joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:53:23Z jusss` joined #scheme 2014-11-27T08:54:48Z bjz joined #scheme 2014-11-27T09:13:37Z jusss` is now known as jusss 2014-11-27T09:13:41Z wingo joined #scheme 2014-11-27T09:26:15Z alexey1 joined #scheme 2014-11-27T09:30:43Z bjz quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2014-11-27T09:31:18Z alexey1 quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2014-11-27T09:36:20Z amgarching joined #scheme 2014-11-27T09:37:32Z Niac quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2014-11-27T09:38:52Z jusss quit (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 2014-11-27T09:49:49Z amgarching quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2014-11-27T09:55:20Z gravicappa joined #scheme 2014-11-27T09:59:51Z amgarching joined #scheme 2014-11-27T10:13:10Z ska-fan: ecraven: Thanks :) 2014-11-27T10:14:44Z ska-fan: ecraven: Isn't a list of 'x, 'y and 'z written as '('x 'y 'z) and thus different from '(x y z)? 2014-11-27T10:16:33Z taylanub: ska-fan: do you know JSON? 2014-11-27T10:18:28Z fizzie: The "something else with quasiquote" would have been (lambda (x y z) `(,x ,y ,z)) but that's probably not very good use of it. 2014-11-27T10:25:28Z BitPuffin joined #scheme 2014-11-27T10:26:10Z amgarching quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2014-11-27T10:30:18Z vinleod joined #scheme 2014-11-27T10:31:15Z taylanub: ska-fan: s-expressions (the "parenthesis syntax") are actually a stand-alone data format, like JSON or XML, with no intrinsic meaning to it other than its structure; say: (cat (name "Johnny") (color blue) (fur-length (centimeters 20))). however, if the structure conforms to the rules of lisp, the data structure can be passed to an 'evaluator' (interpreter, compiler, whatever) and will gain 2014-11-27T10:31:15Z taylanub: meaning as program code. 2014-11-27T10:32:55Z taylanub: ska-fan: and the rules of lisp include that, when a part of the structure looks like (quote ), then it *doesn't* evaluate any of the part, which could be an arbitrarily large sub-structure. and 'x is short for (quote x), no matter how deep x goes, like (quote (foo ((bar baz) bat) quux)) => (foo ((bar baz) bat) quux) 2014-11-27T10:33:47Z taylanub: i.e., inside that structure, no variables are looked up, no functions are called, no 'if' statement is evaluated, etc. etc.; it's just raw data. 2014-11-27T10:38:17Z ska-fan: taylanub: Yes. My thinking was that in the context of lisp, "a list of 'x, 'y and 'z" is not what the function in question returns. I understand "a list of 'x, 'y and 'z" to mean '('x 'y 'z), whereas the function returns '(x y z). Is that correct? 2014-11-27T10:39:53Z taylanub: correct. though people often say 'x when they really mean x, to stress that they mean a literal symbol and not a variable that will be evaluated. 2014-11-27T10:42:07Z taylanub: or one could say, they speak in code snippets. I think rudybot is also configured so that it tries to print out a code snippet representing its result, instead of printing its result as raw data 2014-11-27T10:42:11Z taylanub: rudybot: (quote x) 2014-11-27T10:42:12Z rudybot: taylanub: your sandbox is ready 2014-11-27T10:42:12Z rudybot: taylanub: ; Value: 'x 2014-11-27T10:42:24Z taylanub: rudybot: (list 'x 'y) 2014-11-27T10:42:24Z rudybot: taylanub: ; Value: '(x y) 2014-11-27T10:42:43Z taylanub: see, it puts the ' there as well, though it's strictly speaking wrong... 2014-11-27T10:44:25Z stepnem joined #scheme 2014-11-27T10:52:56Z ska-fan: taylanub: I see. 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