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2014-11-03T00:03:34Z jcowan: By escaping from SRFI 13, I get to define those away.
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2014-11-03T07:49:34Z ecraven: Riastradh: is it a bug that (string->number "3f40578f") fails with a condition on MIT/GNU Scheme?
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2014-11-03T08:21:54Z taylanub: ecraven: I think that's normal for any implementation?
2014-11-03T08:23:39Z taylanub: wait ... it's supposed to return #f?  but it throws an exception in Guile too O_o  a pretty weird one in fact: "In procedure 3f40578f: In procedure string->number: Value out of range: 40578"
2014-11-03T08:27:10Z fizzie: Gauche and Chicken (the ones I had installed) both say #f, FWIW.
2014-11-03T08:27:52Z taylanub: fizzie: yeah, R5RS says string->number returns #f for invalid input, and R7RS adds explicitly that it *never* signals an error due to the contents of the given string
2014-11-03T08:28:04Z taylanub: so strangely MIT/GNU Scheme and Guile have a similar bug
2014-11-03T08:28:26Z taylanub: by the way anyone have an idea why '3f4' evaluates to 30000.0 ?
2014-11-03T08:29:11Z fizzie: "The letters s, f, d, and l specify the use of short, single, double, and long precision, respectively."
2014-11-03T08:29:29Z fizzie: For exponential notation, from R5RS.
2014-11-03T08:29:32Z fizzie: (I didn't know that.)
2014-11-03T08:29:48Z fizzie: (6.2.4 Syntax of numerical constants)
2014-11-03T08:31:32Z fizzie: Does somewhat explain the bug, since 40578 is quite large for an exponent -- though it still doesn't match the number syntax due to the extra f.
2014-11-03T08:31:50Z ecraven: taylanub: exactly :)
2014-11-03T08:31:58Z taylanub: Scheme number syntax is so weird...
2014-11-03T08:32:31Z ecraven: I ran across this when running string->number on my uuids :) I'd guess it's a bug :-/
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2014-11-03T08:45:02Z taylanub: fizzie: what do they say for "1e500"?
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2014-11-03T08:45:44Z taylanub: Racket says +inf.0
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2014-11-03T08:55:37Z taylanub: Gauche says inf too; Chicken considers it a symbol.
2014-11-03T08:56:04Z taylanub: Chibi says inf too.  seems the most sensible thing to do.
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2014-11-03T13:32:58Z Riastradh: ecraven: Heh.  I bet it's reading `40578f' as an exponent in its own right.
2014-11-03T13:33:46Z Riastradh: Hmm, no, it just hasn't gotten to the second `f' before it crashes trying to convert 3 * 10^40578 to a flonum.
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2014-11-03T20:14:43Z macdice: is tinyscheme still maintained?
2014-11-03T20:17:09Z gnomon surreptitiously wipes a layer of dust off TinyScheme
2014-11-03T20:17:13Z gnomon: ...yes.  Yes it is.
2014-11-03T20:19:57Z C-Keen: it's so tiny it maintains itself
2014-11-03T20:21:36Z macdice: i see some patches posted to the sourceforge project have been applied.  but the lead time is months to years.  ok i guess i'll just have to be patient :-)
2014-11-03T20:22:00Z macdice: (i posted a bunch of patches a month ago)
2014-11-03T20:29:58Z turbofail: rudybot: seen foof
2014-11-03T20:29:58Z rudybot: turbofail: foof was seen in #scheme five weeks ago, saying "http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/649", and then foof was seen quitting five weeks ago, saying "Remote host closed the connection"
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2014-11-03T21:22:12Z cky: macdice: See, that's what I like about GitHub. "Fork" is a one-click process. :-P
2014-11-03T21:22:41Z cky: Any time a project seems orphaned, you can just fork it and maintain it separately. I can see some Scheme implementations, like SISC, that would be in need of such a "stimulus".
2014-11-03T21:24:04Z vanila: you could put sisc on github!
2014-11-03T21:32:55Z macdice: cky: agreed
2014-11-03T21:33:29Z macdice: there are in fact a few github forks of tinyscheme with various improvements, but they don't appear to be making it back to the sourceforge project
2014-11-03T21:34:50Z macdice: AFAIK the sourceforge project is the one shipped by apple, debian etc etc
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