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2014-10-17T01:15:43Z azathoth99: zomg work loves python
2014-10-17T01:15:45Z azathoth99: why?
2014-10-17T01:15:52Z azathoth99: its a total pain in the ass
2014-10-17T01:15:55Z azathoth99: and oo everything
2014-10-17T01:16:29Z vanila: yeah :/
2014-10-17T01:16:36Z vanila: the fad that never dies
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2014-10-17T01:26:28Z _tca: how's it goin
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2014-10-17T02:18:59Z vanila: "I must confess that I was very slow on appreciating LISP's merits. My first introduction was via a paper that defined the semantics of LISP in terms of LISP, I did not see how that could make sense, I rejected the paper and LISP with it" - Dijskstra
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2014-10-17T06:16:15Z jusss: hi all, I have a question , it is in mit/gnus scheme, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8577591/
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2014-10-17T07:02:51Z ecraven: jusss: works fine here
2014-10-17T07:03:08Z ecraven: jusss: did you try telnet irc.freenode.net 6667 to check whether a firewall isn't interfering?
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2014-10-17T07:04:43Z jusss: ecraven: I will test
2014-10-17T07:05:00Z fizzie: The "ERROR :Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Connection timed out)" part comes directly from the server, so chances are it's not that.
2014-10-17T07:06:13Z jusss: ecraven: try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8577734/
2014-10-17T07:09:20Z jusss: I fine maybe some write statement don't send to the socket,
2014-10-17T07:09:31Z jusss: so the server echo time out
2014-10-17T07:09:53Z jusss: (write-line "NICK blabla-test" socket)
2014-10-17T07:09:54Z jusss:       (write-line "USER blabla-test 8 * :blablah" socket)
2014-10-17T07:09:54Z jusss:  
2014-10-17T07:10:05Z fizzie: If you keep adding more read-line calls before sending the registration messages, at some point you've consumed all the initial messages the server will send, after which it'll presumably sit and wait until the server gets bored.
2014-10-17T07:10:14Z jusss: this should be wrong
2014-10-17T07:11:37Z ecraven: jusss: takes about 15 seconds for me until freenode sends the fourth line
2014-10-17T07:13:39Z jusss: ecraven: do you get the fourth line ?
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2014-10-17T07:14:53Z jusss: I wait for the fourth line,and then I will send nick and user message to freenode, and receive message ,
2014-10-17T07:15:43Z jusss: time out, means I send nick and user message , fail
2014-10-17T07:17:23Z fizzie: It's more conventional just to send the registration messages first, because there's no guarantee freenode (and esp. other networks) will always send exactly four lines of random initial notices.
2014-10-17T07:20:36Z jusss: fizzie: telnet irc.freenode.net 6665 and do what I said, it's normal
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2014-10-17T07:23:07Z ecraven: jusss: one thing, you probably need (flush-output socket), to actually *send* the lines you write
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2014-10-17T07:31:32Z fizzie: I wasn't disputing that freenode does currently send four lines of introductionary babble, but there's no guarantee they will keep doing that in the future, and other networks certainly don't do it; some won't send any output at all, unprompted. In any case, there's no particular reason *not* to send the NICK/USER messages immediately, and that's what IRC client libraries generally do.
2014-10-17T07:31:48Z ecraven: http://paste.lisp.org/display/144069
2014-10-17T07:31:50Z ecraven: this works
2014-10-17T07:31:54Z ecraven: you need to get your line endings correct
2014-10-17T07:31:58Z ecraven: and you also need to flush the port
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2014-10-17T07:47:45Z jusss: ecraven: \r\n is return and next in C, it's same in scheme ?
2014-10-17T07:48:21Z ecraven: jusss: that depends on your Scheme, but most support it in strings
2014-10-17T07:48:43Z ecraven: jusss: there might be other ways, you can probably set the port line ending type in MIT/GNU Scheme, but that's the easy way out ;)
2014-10-17T07:48:59Z ecraven: also, some IRC servers seem to ignore the rfc and send \n as line endings, not the correct \r\n
2014-10-17T07:55:45Z jusss: ecraven: you're right,just write (flush-output socket) into it, it works
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2014-10-17T08:02:34Z ecraven: jusss: it flushes the output, it sends all unsent (buffered) text
2014-10-17T08:02:51Z ecraven: MIT/GNU Scheme internally buffers your output, so if you really want to send it right now, you need to use that
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2014-10-17T16:22:00Z Guest______: How would I get the last atom of a list with an undefined amount of atoms, without using reverse?
2014-10-17T16:22:57Z vanila: Guest______, yuo could use recursion
2014-10-17T16:23:08Z vanila: when the list is a pair whose CDR is null, return the CAR
2014-10-17T16:24:05Z Guest______: Didnt learn recursion yet Sorry
2014-10-17T16:24:54Z LeoNerd: Well, learn it then proceed as above
2014-10-17T16:25:02Z LeoNerd: .oO( almost like that, in itself, is a recursive algorithm ;) )
2014-10-17T16:25:52Z Guest______: My teacher would be mad if I used something that we didnt learn yet XD
2014-10-17T16:26:09Z Guest______: Well, nvm
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2014-10-17T20:02:03Z Riastradh: US government is back to bullying people about crypto with fines for export: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/17/intel_subsidiary_crypto_export_fine/
2014-10-17T20:02:04Z rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/qyg95mb
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