00:00:15 though, perhaps 64 bit only 00:00:41 says it requires >=Core 2 Duo, and the only i386-only Macs that were made had Core Duos. 00:00:47 in any case, the program itself compiles to 32 bit, no? so the obsolescence is purely an irritation 00:00:56 ...since 10.6. 00:01:16 I just installed 10.6 on a Core 2 Duo running a 32 bit kernel 00:01:26 so a 64 bit binary build would be useless to me 00:01:30 My point is that there's no reason to use MIT Scheme's C build given that there is basically only one choice of native build that works. 00:01:37 'works'? 00:01:41 -!- ASau [~user@p54AFEA0F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:01:43 That doesn't imply it can't handle 64-bit userland programs. 00:01:45 although there are many OS X users who can only run a 32 bit build. 00:01:50 hm 00:01:57 I was under the impression Mac OS X supported 64-bit programs and a 32-bit kernel. 00:02:02 Perhaps I was misinformed. 00:02:03 Core 2 Duo is x86_64? 00:02:06 Yes. 00:02:06 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 00:02:13 ok then you are likely correct 00:02:18 i can test this right now if you're curious 00:02:32 Sure, just try MIT Scheme's amd64 distribution. 00:02:39 ok just a min 00:03:39 It's remotely conceivable that some users might want to use the i386 distribution in order to avoid the memory footprint of double-size pointers when unnecessary, but highly unlikely -- users worried about such tight constraints are unlikely to use MIT Scheme (or Mac OS X) anyway. 00:03:58 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-153-81.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:26 And under such constraints it strikes me as unlikely that they would use brew. 00:11:58 -!- klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 00:12:28 klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has joined #scheme 00:12:54 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-153-81.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 00:15:25 By the way, you can probably answer the broader question of whether your version of Mac OS X supports 64-bit userland programs on a 32-bit kernel by looking at Process Viewer.app or whatever it's called, and checking for `i386' and `x86_64' or `32-bit' and `64-bit' or something in one of the columns. 00:16:46 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-153-81.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 00:18:12 chare [322f51ac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.47.81.172] has joined #scheme 00:18:21 you guys know that scheme is dying to clojure 00:18:42 chare: you know that I don't care? 00:18:58 chare, please take deliberately inflammatory comments elsewhere. 00:20:49 chare: LOL 00:21:28 Riastradh: a fair point. they can always use the binary directly. 00:21:41 Hmm? 00:23:47 Riastradh: ppl who must use 32 bit. In any case, the 64 bit binary runs to an Edwin window on this Core 2 Duo w/ 32 bit kernel. 00:24:10 OK. So, there's no reason for brew to use the C build instead of the amd64 build. 00:24:23 right 00:25:55 If you care about this, I suggest you file a bug or do whatever is necessary to fix the brew repository (or whatever it is that needs to be fixed). 00:28:30 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@77.78.117.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:30:29 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-153-81.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:32:45 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-185-31.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 00:33:34 Someone might object `But that's a binary distribution!', to which the response is that they should be just as worried about the `C' distribution because it is essentially no different, just a different (more portable, but no more legible) form of `binary'. 00:34:31 also fine in repl 00:37:27 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-185-31.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 00:42:14 -!- Okasu [~1@unaffiliated/okasu] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:45:51 -!- chare [322f51ac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.47.81.172] has left #scheme 00:51:08 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-185-31.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:56 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-185-31.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 01:12:05 -!- Fare [~fare@cpe-72-229-109-116.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:16:36 -!- Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 01:18:40 Fare [~fare@cpe-72-229-109-116.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 01:29:53 fikusz [~fikusz@catv-89-132-137-62.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 01:30:11 Rodya_ [~trav@pool-98-115-20-99.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 01:31:12 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-185-31.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 01:31:25 brianmwaters [~brianmwat@host-72-174-188-10.ldv-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #scheme 01:33:02 klltkr_ [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has joined #scheme 01:36:35 ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-28.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 01:40:19 Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #scheme 01:54:06 -!- emma [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:54:58 -!- Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 01:55:54 emma [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has joined #scheme 01:58:18 -!- Fare [~fare@cpe-72-229-109-116.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:10:10 -!- brianmwaters [~brianmwat@host-72-174-188-10.ldv-co.client.bresnan.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:25:16 -!- fikusz [~fikusz@catv-89-132-137-62.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:27:02 fikusz [~fikusz@catv-89-132-137-62.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 02:31:39 -!- Rodya_ [~trav@pool-98-115-20-99.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:52:05 CADD [~CADD@12.227.104.109] has joined #scheme 02:52:28 -!- CADD is now known as Guest94082 02:52:43 -!- Guest94082 [~CADD@12.227.104.109] has quit [Client Quit] 02:56:58 -!- TravisD [~travis@S01060007e9c4da34.ed.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: TravisD] 02:57:10 -!- jao` [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:58:08 -!- fikusz [~fikusz@catv-89-132-137-62.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:00:25 b4283 [~b4283@60-249-196-111.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 03:11:39 -!- taylanub [tub@p4FD92CB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:12:02 taylanub [tub@p4FD92CB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 03:12:31 -!- noobboob [uid5587@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bfwztqxvmixtqoey] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:14:46 -!- samth [sid14502@racket/samth] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:15:02 noobboob [uid5587@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dfkiuwbimiaxogsn] has joined #scheme 03:15:41 -!- gazoombo [sid6629@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-chsrxvccmayqsmzs] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:17:01 samth [sid14502@racket/samth] has joined #scheme 03:17:53 gazoombo [sid6629@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rymlvrezmkrhorwi] has joined #scheme 03:19:29 -!- pcarrier [sid12046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mxozdowvqrdumeun] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:22:22 pcarrier [sid12046@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rukqtkypwzxzdhow] has joined #scheme 03:27:03 -!- ijp [~user@host86-185-210-145.range86-185.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:27:19 ijp [~user@host86-185-210-145.range86-185.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 03:31:10 tomoe-mami [~mami@unaffiliated/tomoe-mami/x-1769741] has joined #scheme 03:31:21 -!- phipes [~phipes@unaffiliated/phipes] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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