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I can't seem to define the following: 02:24:01 http://pastebin.com/XnemFvcv 02:26:05 (checked out the paste.lisp.org url, but it had no channels show up, sorry) 02:28:56 kris434343 [~update@unaffiliated/kris434343] has joined #scheme 02:29:49 What is the problem? 02:30:00 'too many ellipses' 02:30:01 That is, (a) what did you type, (b) what did you see, and (c) what did you expect to see? 02:30:08 Oh, yes. 02:30:13 in both chicken and scheme48 02:30:16 but they seem matched 02:30:21 You need to quote the ellipses. 02:30:28 ah. I'd tried quasiquoting the whole thing 02:30:37 awesome :-D 02:30:38 Not sure whether Chicken or Scheme48 support this. Some Scheme systems let you do (... ...) to quote a .... 02:30:51 did you mean to quote a ...? 02:30:58 There's also some SRFI for doing this in a slightly different way. 02:31:05 / weird, (... ...)... any idea how that came about? 02:31:46 Dunno. 02:32:03 -!- haroldwu_ is now known as haroldwu 02:32:12 -!- haroldwu [~haroldwu@219.85.185.194] has quit [Changing host] 02:32:13 haroldwu [~haroldwu@unaffiliated/haroldwu] has joined #scheme 02:32:23 huh, chicken doesn't support either '... or (... ...) 02:32:31 i'll go d ig for that srfi, see if it's supported 02:33:54 kenrrt243: does petite support it ? 02:34:32 the last release of petite is 2012 ?! 02:35:47 srfi-46 and srfi-72 seem to have mechanisms 02:35:56 zRecursive: not familiar with it, i'll go check it out 02:36:05 oh, chez 02:36:24 it is fast 02:36:55 b4283 [~b4283@60-249-196-111.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 02:37:01 It is also proprietary... 02:37:32 I'd prefer to avoid proprietary schemes 02:37:50 petite is free 02:37:54 I'd also like to not have to roll too much FFI code to work with SDL, hence the original choice of chicken 02:38:39 Is chicken maitained yet ? 02:38:40 -!- tcsc [~tcsc@c-76-127-240-20.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 02:38:49 hm. I don't think chicken supports srfi-46 or srfi-72 02:39:01 but maybe their base nonstandard macro extensions will let me escape ellipses 02:39:06 I'll do some more reading of their manual 02:39:22 maybe guile supports them 02:40:02 Last I checked Petite wasn't free software. I don't think the source code is even public at all. 02:40:30 Riastradh: yeah 02:40:45 tcsc [~tcsc@c-76-127-240-20.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:48:51 annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:48:51 -!- annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 02:48:51 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 02:53:17 alright, thanks Riastradh and zRecursive. headed out, will try to remember to report back for the record if I find success in chicken 02:53:21 cheers! 02:53:33 -!- kenrrt243 [~cjtenny@c-24-60-202-52.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:54:07 -!- nugnuts [~nugnuts@pool-74-105-21-221.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:04:24 Atrumx [~Atrumx@unaffiliated/fivedeltasix] has joined #scheme 03:18:03 http://paste.lisp.org/display/141169 I'm trying to make an algebraic transformer in scheme. I'm using define-syntax to rearrange expressions based on the context in which *, +, and - are spotted. I can't seem to get rule (10) to work. 03:22:06 -!- yrdz [~p_adams@unaffiliated/p-adams/x-7117614] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 03:22:16 Unless I comment out (15)/(19)...which uh... no clue why that would be the case. 03:23:22 yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has joined #scheme 03:30:16 Chances are you meant that the names a, b, and c were variables, - and + were literals, and _ was a wildcard. But SYNTAX-RULES doesn't know that a priori. 03:30:31 The () at the beginning is where you list the names you want it to treat as literals. 03:31:21 (And there is no concept of wildcards, so you can't use _ in more than one place if you don't list it as a literal -- except at the start of a pattern where it really doesn't matter what you write.) 03:32:31 But all that said, I suspect macros are not the tool you want; instead you probably want a handy notation for pattern-matching at run-time, not at compile-time, such as . 03:36:51 -!- alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD621E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:40:52 Fare [~fare@cpe-72-229-109-116.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:45:10 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.161] has quit [Quit: MichaelRaskin] 03:47:37 So, why exactly would it fail for that particular rule? Something like (* (* 5 b) 6) should => (* (* 5 6) a), but it doesn't give output of any kind 04:03:19 ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-28.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 04:06:45 Oh, I think I understand. 04:08:42 nisstyre [~y@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 04:09:12 andddd fixed. I didn't quite understand when you said "I meant them as literals" 04:09:49 but that's actually exactly what I wanted. 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