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(cdr tortoise))' isn't enough to flip the meanings of `hare' and `tortoise' : you also need to change the recursive call 13:49:27 (i.e., if you wanted to do this rename at all. you don't *need* to do it, but someone how is familiar with the hare-tortoise idea could get confused by you using the role names in the opposite sense as in the traditional one) 13:49:49 -!- tiksa [~tiksa@gateway/tor-sasl/tiksa] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:50:28 tiksa [~tiksa@gateway/tor-sasl/tiksa] has joined #scheme 13:50:30 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:51:23 hm, instead of removing the `not', you could possibly add another `not' (which should also surround the recursive call, but further out) 13:52:09 also, i'm not sure what the point of the `(null? tortoise)' is 13:52:36 just because that fails, it doesn't mean that `tortoise' is a pair 13:53:00 iow, you still don't know that `(cdr tortoise)' is safe 13:53:24 perhaps replacing `(null? 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