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(palidrome '(1 2 3)) returns ((1 2 3) 2 1) but I want it to return (1 2 3 2 1) 01:07:09 (define (palidrome x) 01:07:11 (cdr (reverse x)))))) 01:07:13 (cond ((null? x) '()) 01:07:16 (else (cons x 01:09:56 Cyclohexane: You're missing a pastebin :) 01:10:49 rudybot: (define (pal l) (append l (cdr (reverse l)))) 01:10:49 *offby1: Done. 01:10:54 rudybot: (pal (list 1 2 3)) 01:10:54 *offby1: ; Value: '(1 2 3 2 1) 01:10:58 rudybot: (pal (list 1 2 3 4 5)) 01:10:59 *offby1: ; Value: '(1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1) 01:13:27 Well that was simple 01:13:34 Thank you 01:17:38 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 01:18:31 -!- miloshadzic [~miloshadz@212.62.62.143] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 01:26:22 racycle [~racycle@75-25-129-128.lightspeed.sjcpca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:27:34 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:38:57 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.25.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:54:42 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 01:56:32 -!- gzg [~user@75-132-28-10.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:03:55 -!- alexei_ [~amgarchin@p4FD61B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:10:26 alexei_ [~amgarchin@p4FD61B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 02:10:57 ASau` [~user@p54AFE8B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 02:14:08 -!- ASau [~user@p5083DF33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:15:08 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-134-25.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:15:49 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-87-79-197-13.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 02:21:12 -!- alexei_ [~amgarchin@p4FD61B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:22:08 -!- zzach [~zzach@dslb-092-073-106-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:22:39 zzach [~zzach@dslb-092-073-085-222.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 02:36:42 alexei_ [~amgarchin@p4FD61B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 02:44:02 -!- alexei_ [~amgarchin@p4FD61B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:44:09 alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD61B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 02:52:42 -!- davexunit [~user@fsf/member/davexunit] has quit [Quit: Later] 02:54:09 -!- tenq|away is now known as tenq 02:55:25 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:08:29 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 03:15:40 yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has joined #scheme 03:23:15 -!- alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD61B46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:30:29 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:40:11 alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD6216B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 03:40:47 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:42:23 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 04:16:19 -!- alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD6216B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:17:41 gzg [~user@75-132-28-10.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 04:35:17 Before I actually start reading SRFI-72, quick question: It says that syntax-case is implementable in terms of SRFI-72, but is the other way around true as well? 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Is there a neat way to copy a closure? I keep an object /board/ as a closure and I would like it to be able to spawn new boards, is it possible/are there any better wasy to do it? 18:50:48 *ways 18:51:03 nothing standard, I wouldn't expect it to be a common extension either 18:52:07 ijp: How should it be done then? I should keep it as lists and implement manipulation functions on them ? 18:52:13 I'd just re-invoke whatever function created the closure in the first place 18:52:34 I think Scheme was originally invented to address exactly this 18:52:35 srsly 18:53:08 offby1: but it should spawn a new board with changed state 18:53:25 well, since you are already doing the horrible object closure thing, just add a 'copy message, that creates a new closure with different state 18:54:36 why is object closure such a bad thing? 18:55:09 *creating objects as closures 18:56:35 rudybot: (define (make-box x) (lambda (msg . args) (case msg ((get) x) ((set!) (set! x (car args))) ((copy) (make-box x))))) 18:56:37 ijp: your sandbox is ready 18:56:37 ijp: Done. 18:56:43 pumpkin360: I'm probably misunderstanding how your code is laid out ... but I imagine you've got a function that returns a newly-created closure. That function should take some input parameters that control the state of the board that it creates. Therefore, you can invoke that function many times, each with different inputs, in order to get all the boards you want. 18:56:48 rudybot: (define box1 (make-box 3)) 18:56:49 ijp: Done. 18:57:27 rudybot: (list (box1 'get) (box1 'set 10) (box1 'get)) ; not portable due to reliance on left-to-right order 18:57:28 ijp: ; Value: '(3 # 3) 18:57:30 -!- SamuelSF [~samuel@c-50-138-96-180.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:53 bah, typical irc client coding cockup 18:58:01 (define (create-board king-position penalty whatever ...) (let ([more-stuff ]) ... (lambda (board-actions) ... stuff.))) 18:58:37 ijp: dunno what happened there :) 18:59:26 missing a bang! 18:59:29 offby1: but changing the board state is the one most crucial thing I want this object to do. And to keep the functional style I would prefer it to return new objects instead of changing itself 18:59:32 rudybot: (list (box1 'get) (box1 'set! 10) (box1 'get)) ; not portable due to reliance on left-to-right order 18:59:33 ijp: ; Value: '(3 # 10) 19:00:06 /w00t 19:00:11 anyway, you get the idea 19:00:59 ijp, offby1 : thanks for help 19:09:34 out of curiosity : why is there no list-head in the standard if there is list-tail? Because it would require creating new list / mutation ? 19:11:28 let's see, list-tail, ah you mean drop 19:12:09 srfi 1 has take as well as drop, and it's basically standard 19:12:47 ok 19:12:55 thanks one more time 19:18:59 -!- weie [~eie@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:19:15 -!- funct [~fn@116.71.189.99] has quit [Quit: reload] 19:26:48 funct [~fn@116.71.189.99] has joined #scheme 19:58:39 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-172-99.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59:49 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:01:09 -!- wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:01:43 germ13 [~germ13@cpe-75-84-12-100.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 20:05:54 yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has joined #scheme 20:08:44 -!- kbtr [~kbtr@li198-73.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:09:03 kbtr [~kbtr@li198-73.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 20:11:11 -!- alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD6216B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:26:37 alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD6216B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 20:29:25 main [~main@agfp12.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #scheme 20:29:26 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:32:02 -!- pumpkin360 [~main@agij131.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:33:59 -!- ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:35:00 -!- rszeno [~rszeno@79.114.103.222] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:36:06 -!- funct [~fn@116.71.189.99] has quit [Quit: zzz] 20:36:20 -!- microcode is now known as yzd 20:54:00 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04:15 -!- saul [~saul@99-161-179-54.lightspeed.waynmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:04 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.161] has joined #scheme 21:07:33 -!- vishesh [~vishesh@103.30.143.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:25:47 -!- germ13 [~germ13@cpe-75-84-12-100.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:31:29 ericmathison [~ericmathi@172-15-249-133.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 21:36:41 -!- ericmathison [~ericmathi@172-15-249-133.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:38:45 igotnolegs- [~igotnoleg@67-2-121-41.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 21:46:28 -!- main is now known as pumpkin360 21:50:39 true-techie_ [~chatzilla@72.252.124.67] has joined #scheme 21:51:12 ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 21:52:05 -!- true-techie [~chatzilla@72.252.124.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:52:18 -!- true-techie_ is now known as true-techie 21:53:29 Natch [~Natch@c-cdcee155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 21:59:59 mario-goulart [~user@email.parenteses.org] has joined #scheme 22:01:00 jao [~jao@21.Red-79-153-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 22:01:03 -!- jao [~jao@21.Red-79-153-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 22:01:03 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 22:03:45 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-23-26-6-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:05:52 comingtogetyou [~albert@adsl-71-156-32-9.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 22:13:02 pnkfelix [~Adium@70.42.157.31] has joined #scheme 22:14:18 -!- mrowe_away is now known as mrowe 22:14:21 -!- pnkfelix [~Adium@70.42.157.31] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:10 ericmathison [~ericmathi@174.47.7.78] has joined #scheme 22:15:19 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:28:20 -!- comingtogetyou [~albert@adsl-71-156-32-9.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:43:13 -!- zacts [~user@unaffiliated/zacts] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:43:59 zacts [~zacts@unaffiliated/zacts] has joined #scheme 22:44:48 -!- amoe_ is now known as amoe 22:52:45 -!- miloshadzic [~miloshadz@212.62.62.143] has quit [Quit: Quit] 23:28:07 davexunit [~user@fsf/member/davexunit] has joined #scheme 23:29:46 -!- mrowe is now known as mrowe_away 23:30:34 hmmh [~ubuntu@ec2-54-202-9-58.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #scheme 23:31:20 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 23:39:32 -!- hmmh [~ubuntu@ec2-54-202-9-58.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has left #scheme 23:49:04 eli [~eli@racket/eli] has joined #scheme 23:52:30 -!- pumpkin360 [~main@agfp12.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:53:18 -!- mrowe_away is now known as mrowe 23:54:14 -!- ericmathison [~ericmathi@174.47.7.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:55:40 pumpkin360 [~main@agfp12.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #scheme