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CLISP even better ;) 06:39:01 mmm, i am a Vi guy 06:39:02 Racket for example has its own IDE 06:39:03 hehehe 06:39:19 ah, ok. there's some sort of vi integration too, but I don't know about that 06:39:32 clisp interpreter works quite well, but i dont have the amazing define in clisp... 06:39:34 -!- mrowe is now known as mrowe_away 06:40:32 look into using Schemes from vi, it's sure to provide some sort of interaction with command history 06:40:55 also, there really is no good way around SLIME if you use CL, unless you use a commercial Lisp, I think 06:41:19 ecraven: 06:41:29 Well, for some of us screen is enough 06:43:57 civodul [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/civodul] has joined #scheme 06:45:10 -!- racycle [~racycle@75-25-129-128.lightspeed.sjcpca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:51:37 seems like racket is what i am searching for 06:51:51 ecraven: what i really want is a interpreter to play around 06:52:14 i am getting into functional programming with haskell, but its nice to see something as zen-like as scheme 07:00:43 ozkar: other implementations to try would be chicken, gauche, gambit.. check the scheme wiki, there's many to try :) 07:01:08 be aware that Racket is strictly speaking a different language than Scheme, not sure whether they'll implement R7RS 07:20:30 Racket is pretty cool, just in the fact -- that it's more-or-less a language to write languages in, from what I can tell. :^) 07:42:10 -!- Fare [fare@nat/google/x-ovwwthxfphshcndn] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:42:31 -!- ASau` is now known as ASau 07:42:43 ecraven: i see 07:43:32 so racket is not standard scheme... 07:43:36 -!- kvda [~kvda@unaffiliated/kvda] has quit [Quit: x___x] 07:49:02 -!- kobain [~sambio@unaffiliated/kobain] has quit [] 08:03:39 ozkar: It can and does implement the Revised Scheme Standard (not sure about Version 7 yet), but the actual system itself (from the little I know, by no-means am I an authority) is that the core of the language, is no-not really. 08:05:37 i see 08:05:53 i really only want to play around with the interpreter, seems racket will do 08:06:19 ozkar: Just about any Scheme will do then... yeah, Racket will surely. :^) 08:06:46 *gzg* is still a big Guile-2.x fan, but he's also a really big GNU fan in-general. 08:07:54 -!- ski [~md9slj@t-2020-05.studat.chalmers.se] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:14:48 my arrow keys doesnt seem to work on guile... 08:15:46 ozkar: As-in via the terminal-emulator based repl? 08:16:31 yes 08:16:38 rxvt-unicode to be precise 08:16:40 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-237-57-251.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:16:51 ozkar: What do you expect to happen? 08:17:44 type stuff, press arrow key to move cursor left-right 08:17:56 instead i get [[^A or something like that 08:18:08 up/down for command history 08:18:13 kinda like ghci/hugs do 08:18:37 ozkar: Yeah, it's pretty basic in-regards to navigation -- that being said, it's more-so implied that you'd working with guiser-mode in Emacs. :^P 08:18:53 like i said i am new to functional programming, and i am starting with haskell but i am also watching/reading sicp and i find scheme quite interesting 08:19:30 mmm, i see 08:21:44 ill see if i can work out the keystrokes issue, and set matching parens on 08:22:22 ozkar: Via Emacs, or just on top of a lone REPL? 08:23:01 just a terminal 08:23:10 not a big fan of emacs, and i found what i needed 08:23:15 i guess ill stick with guile 08:23:40 Well good luck, you can always stop by #guile and see if that's do-able -- they're some friendly fellows. :^) 08:23:41 http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Loading-Readline-Support.html 08:23:41 http://tinyurl.com/avlqh7t 08:24:09 no idea what the stuff really does, but its having the behavior i want 08:25:07 guie supports multi line evaluation when pressing enter and parens arent balanced, thats neat 08:25:54 now i just need to change the prompt to something more simple and i am set. 08:26:35 ozkar: Which prompt; The copyright notice? 08:27:24 nah 08:27:28 scheme@guile-user 08:27:42 the guile-user part bothers me... 08:28:34 Ah -- never really bothered me, at least enough to notice on a conscious level. :^P 08:28:42 jewel [~jewel@105-236-130-25.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #scheme 08:29:19 :) 08:29:26 guile seems like the implementation for me 08:29:50 *ozkar* checks if guile runs on BSD systems 08:30:08 ozkar: the (guile-user) you see is the current module 08:30:18 is you change it with ,m then it will change accordingly 08:30:29 pretty much like \w in PS1 08:30:50 *gzg* wonders if Guile was ever ported to Windows. 08:30:56 and of course you can change the prompt 08:31:05 gzg: it works on Cygwin and MinGW AFAIK 08:31:06 civodul: i see 08:31:22 it works on BSD 08:31:40 no binary on freebsd or openbsd but ports seems to work 08:35:33 -!- add^_ [~user@m176-70-201-126.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 08:36:04 add^_ 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