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syntax-cases becomes your base form, then you can't just use it directly to destructure syntax objects in helper procedures 22:16:27 Oh I just meant it as a small wrapper around `syntax-case'. 22:16:28 you need to do ((syntax-cases ...) stx) 22:17:29 It seems like in the most usual case one doesn't really care about the procedure, one just wants to use syntax-case and nothing more. 22:17:48 9/10 i have a helper procedure in the lambda 22:18:07 Hrm, fine then. 22:18:29 -!- Kabaka [~Kabaka@botters/kabaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:30:19 -!- alexei_ [~amgarchin@p4FD6343C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:32:41 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:36:07 taylanub: Nothing stops you from define such a macro 22:38:44 Yeah, I suppose it's just (define-syntax-rule (syntax-cases literals ((pat exp) ...)) (lambda (x) (syntax-case x literals ((pat exp) ...)))) 22:39:33 -!- tylergoza [~tylergoza@72.29.34.246] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:40:31 which doesn't allow a fender 22:47:04 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 22:50:45 davexunit [~user@fsf/member/davexunit] has joined #scheme 22:53:30 is there a diff between (lambda a .....) and (lambda (a) ....) ? 22:54:03 Yes. 22:54:12 rudybot: eval ((lambda a a) 1) 22:54:12 Riastradh: your sandbox is ready 22:54:13 Riastradh: ; Value: '(1) 22:54:15 rudybot: eval ((lambda (a) a) 1) 22:54:15 Riastradh: ; Value: 1 22:54:23 hmm 22:54:27 rudybot: eval ((lambda a a) 1 2 3) 22:54:28 Riastradh: ; Value: '(1 2 3) 22:54:29 rudybot: eval ((lambda (a) a) 1 2 3) 22:54:30 Riastradh: error: #: arity mismatch; the expected number of arguments does not match the given number expected: 1 given: 3 arguments...: 1 2 3 22:55:01 Riastradh: thanks 22:55:07 -!- duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:37 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 22:56:03 ok so (lambda a a) is the new weird one I need to wrap my brain around 22:56:10 that is the nice way to accept multiple arguments! 22:56:16 it presents them as a friendly list! 22:56:17 yay! 22:56:18 i get it 22:56:20 It is akin to 22:56:29 did I go over this with you before, theseb? 22:56:32 rudybot: eval ((lambda (a b . rest) (list a b rest)) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7) 22:56:32 Riastradh: ; Value: '(1 2 (3 4 5 6 7)) 22:56:46 ijp: yes! i'm just confirming if i rem'd it correctly! 23:01:23 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:03:15 -!- rins [~aaron@38.88.168.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:05:21 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 23:08:29 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:08:37 -!- davexunit [~user@fsf/member/davexunit] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:12:07 -!- civodul [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/civodul] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:16:19 -!- Giomancer [~gio@107.201.206.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:19:20 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:07 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 23:21:37 dsevilla [~user@175.Red-83-54-234.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 23:28:23 Giomancer [~gio@107.201.206.230] has joined #scheme 23:33:24 -!- kwmiebach_ [~kwmiebach@xdsl-87-78-136-185.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:34:43 -!- agumonkey [~agu@147.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:36:22 fridim__ [~fridim@bas2-montreal07-2925317373.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #scheme 23:40:59 alexei_ [~amgarchin@p4FD6343C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 23:46:18 ypyf [~user@14.123.58.11] has joined #scheme 23:58:23 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]