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The include special form splices the content of the specified source file. This form can only appear where a define form is acceptable. " 15:52:11 -!- tenq is now known as tenq|away 15:59:42 gleag: ok, gsc is gambit nomore, works with gambitc, does not output the answer but that is probably some problem with options. runs 3.99s compared to 6.81 on guile 16:00:14 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-176-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:00:24 Hmm, ought to be faster than that. 16:00:46 Also, wrong results make any speed comparison a priori meaningless. ;-) 16:02:47 sstrickl [~sstrickl@racket/sstrickl] has joined #scheme 16:02:51 alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD606A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 16:03:09 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:03:31 gleag: no, sorry 16:03:42 gleag: I did something strange 16:04:04 gleag: will let You know when I run it on gambit 16:05:25 snowylike [~sn@91-67-170-78-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 16:06:35 LAMMJohnson [~ja@user-5af43312.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #scheme 16:10:09 -!- eff_ [~quassel@114.246.78.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:12:53 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:14:12 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-164-77.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 16:15:03 eff_ [~quassel@123.118.173.167] has joined #scheme 16:15:23 DeathByDoubleDip [~DeathByDo@108-75-113-253.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 16:19:42 -!- DeathByDoubleDip [~DeathByDo@108-75-113-253.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:21:25 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-236-146-135.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:21:31 used "gambitc -exe sol12.scm" to obtain an exe and then used "time ./sol12 pumpkin360: There's a #gambit channel here, BTW. Whenever you do something wrong in Gambit, you can ask there. :) 16:30:31 -!- alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD606A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:32:01 gleag: good to know, will probably ask them because I am curious how guile can be faster than gambit, but got to go now. Bay. 16:32:26 foeniks [~fevon@p5091E162.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 16:32:27 pumpkin360: Have a nice swim! 16:34:04 Tanami [~carnage@9ch.in] has joined #scheme 16:36:15 -!- ogamita [~t@77.104.4.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:36:48 -!- pumpkin360 [~main@agjn73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:39:30 alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD606A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 16:42:20 -!- Fare [fare@nat/google/x-zwhsuqfqiiwvreeo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:42:31 Kabaka [~Kabaka@botters/kabaka] has joined #scheme 16:43:14 kobain_ [~kobian@190.57.227.106] has joined #scheme 16:43:14 -!- kobain_ [~kobian@190.57.227.106] has quit [Changing host] 16:43:14 kobain_ [~kobian@unaffiliated/kobain] has joined #scheme 16:43:36 -!- kobain [~kobian@unaffiliated/kobain] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:49:37 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 16:50:11 -!- Nisstyre-laptop is now known as nisstyre 16:56:05 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:57:39 DeathByDoubleDip [~DeathByDo@rrcs-76-79-65-218.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:00:04 DeathByDoubleD-1 [~DeathByDo@157.254.210.31] has joined #scheme 17:02:05 -!- DeathByDoubleDip [~DeathByDo@rrcs-76-79-65-218.west.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:06:39 -!- jrapdx [~jra@c-98-246-145-216.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:08:20 -!- DeathByDoubleD-1 [~DeathByDo@157.254.210.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:10:04 -!- pnkfelix [~Adium@89.202.203.51] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:16:36 pumpkin360 [~main@agjn73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #scheme 17:17:32 apathor [~apathor@c-50-138-132-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:17:32 -!- pumpkin360 [~main@agjn73.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 17:25:43 -!- tylergoza [~tylergoza@user-24-96-98-239.knology.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:27:21 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:28:04 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.178.216.22] has quit [Quit: MichaelRaskin] 17:31:06 -!- weie [~eie@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:32:31 Fare [fare@nat/google/x-kccqqlwpamjwxwku] has joined #scheme 17:38:08 yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has joined #scheme 17:43:02 jlongster [~user@pool-173-53-114-190.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 17:46:05 -!- gcartier [~gcartier@24.201.136.10] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:55:03 zendessert [56a06649@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.160.102.73] has joined #scheme 17:57:46 Say I have a procedure that takes a list such as '(define (add a b) (+ a b)). The procedure EVAL's the list to define the procedure ADD. Now I want to store the ADD procedure in a hash-table. Is the right way to get the procedure object to do an (eval 'add) in my original procedure? 17:59:04 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 17:59:12 (Well, (eval 'add (interaction-environment))) 18:01:40 zendessert, well, the right way is to stop using eval and do the whole thing differently, but in this particular case, what you say will work 18:03:20 samth: Well, the different way to do it would be to write a Scheme interpreter. 18:03:36 I realise I haven't explained my problem in much detail 18:03:39 zendessert, is that what you're implementing? 18:03:47 if not, eval is probably the wrong solution 18:04:43 samth: It's a calculator that allows the user to extend it with Scheme basically. 18:05:08 ah, then eval will definitely be needed 18:05:16 :-) 18:08:02 -!- Giomancer [~gio@107.201.206.230] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:08:17 Giomancer [~gio@107.201.206.230] has joined #scheme 18:08:36 -!- Giomancer [~gio@107.201.206.230] has quit [Client Quit] 18:09:03 Giomancer [~gio@107.201.206.230] has joined #scheme 18:09:33 -!- Giomancer [~gio@107.201.206.230] has quit [Client Quit] 18:09:50 Giomancer [~gio@107.201.206.230] has joined #scheme 18:11:29 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:12:10 ianclarksmith [~ianclarks@ool-18bf6d86.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 18:12:10 -!- ianclarksmith is now known as ics 18:13:34 tupi [~user@139.82.89.157] has joined #scheme 18:13:58 rins_ [~aaron@38.88.168.154] has joined #scheme 18:15:27 -!- rins_ [~aaron@38.88.168.154] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:15:50 -!- rins [~aaron@38.88.168.154] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:15:53 agumonkey [~agu@147.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 18:16:17 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 18:24:07 -!- LAMMJohnson [~ja@user-5af43312.broadband.tesco.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:12 Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #scheme 18:24:30 rins [~aaron@38.88.168.154] has joined #scheme 18:26:06 -!- walter [~walter@c-98-216-15-111.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:29:30 -!- ics [~ianclarks@ool-18bf6d86.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:30:52 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 18:32:13 ics [~ianclarks@ool-18bf6d86.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 18:33:25 -!- tiksa [~tiksa@gateway/tor-sasl/tiksa] has quit [Quit: Pozdrav] 18:40:28 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:43:07 gcartier [~gcartier@modemcable010.136-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 18:44:48 Okasu [~1@unaffiliated/okasu] has joined #scheme 18:44:50 LAMMJohnson [~ja@user-5af43312.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #scheme 18:53:53 -!- taylanub [tub@p4FD923FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:53:59 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.161] has joined #scheme 18:54:48 taylanub [tub@p4FD94F08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:58:18 -!- Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:01:29 -!- Kabaka [~Kabaka@botters/kabaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:12:16 -!- zendessert [56a06649@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.160.102.73] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:13:17 -!- agumonkey [~agu@147.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:17:01 mmc1 [~michal@j212142.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #scheme 19:18:08 Kabaka [~Kabaka@botters/kabaka] has joined #scheme 19:23:51 tylergoza [~tylergoza@user-24-96-98-239.knology.net] has joined #scheme 19:29:45 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 19:31:13 -!- wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:31:24 -!- Nisstyre-laptop is now known as nisstyre 19:43:11 ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 19:48:14 fridim_ [~fridim@173.231.115.58] has joined #scheme 19:49:00 agumonkey [~agu@147.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 19:51:42 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-84-44-155-46.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:52:27 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-87-79-195-159.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 19:52:32 -!- ijp [~user@host81-155-242-94.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:53:27 -!- apathor [~apathor@c-50-138-132-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #scheme 19:53:49 -!- snowylike [~sn@91-67-170-78-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - 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