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03:51:34 I see a client for chicken 03:51:53 jaimef [jaimef@dns.mauthesis.com] has joined #scheme 03:51:58 I heard is is very nice and might be more interesting than NFS 03:51:59 robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:52:16 like you can mount 3 folders into 1 on client 03:52:24 union or something 03:52:54 -!- sawjig [~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 03:53:40 sawjig [~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig] has joined #scheme 03:54:28 -!- robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:54:40 robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:57:57 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:58:11 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 03:58:55 -!- preflex_ is now known as preflex 03:59:28 avery [~avery@host-74-211-18-15.beyondbb.com] has joined #scheme 04:01:01 miql [~miql@ip68-98-19-126.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #scheme 04:18:57 -!- miql [~miql@ip68-98-19-126.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:27:45 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:29:17 -!- kobain [~kobian@unaffiliated/kobain] has quit [Quit: l'unica verità.. è la morte stessa!] 04:32:28 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.178.216.22] has joined #scheme 04:39:52 juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has joined #scheme 04:45:21 -!- waxysubs` [hope7@world.peace.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:45:57 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:54:43 wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 04:57:13 pjb [~t@AMontsouris-651-1-5-116.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 04:58:00 juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has joined #scheme 05:02:16 -!- Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:03:51 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 05:24:24 it would seem that few companies load info into scheme and make it calculate profit maximizing actions 05:24:25 :) 05:28:50 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-163-217.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 05:33:50 -!- brianloveswords_ [~brianlove@li124-154.members.linode.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:34:44 brianloveswords [~brianlove@li124-154.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 05:44:46 -!- trusktr [~trusktr@130.86.99.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:50:30 -!- yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:53:14 yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has joined #scheme 06:06:07 -!- Shozan is now known as SHODAN 06:21:00 abhinav [~abhinav@nat/cisco/x-iexcoecwmpgzxcfa] has joined #scheme 06:23:08 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 06:33:05 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:33:56 DeadZen [~deadzen@deadzen.com] has joined #scheme 06:39:41 przl [~przlrkt@46.231.183.162] has joined #scheme 06:57:59 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:10:21 arthurma` [~user@177.148.132.241] has joined #scheme 07:12:53 -!- arthurmaciel [~user@177.148.132.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:13:14 fzappa [~user@int.emakina.nl] has joined #scheme 07:16:49 -!- przl [~przlrkt@46.231.183.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:17:28 introom [~Eddie@101.5.148.149] has joined #scheme 07:19:52 -!- introom [~Eddie@101.5.148.149] has quit [Client Quit] 07:20:20 przl [~przlrkt@46.231.183.162] has joined #scheme 07:23:04 -!- abhinav [~abhinav@nat/cisco/x-iexcoecwmpgzxcfa] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:28:02 hey schemers 07:28:03 :) 07:28:27 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-197.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 07:29:03 if I make like 100 definitions in my say chicken scheme image...is there a way to dump them to a file? 07:29:38 also, is there a site where you can post a programming problem, and others can post a solution in scheme? 07:37:38 -!- robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 07:39:00 abhinav [~abhinav@nat/cisco/x-fgxjaktlkmaylpau] has joined #scheme 07:39:48 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:40:05 -!- bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:40:13 bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has joined #scheme 07:50:57 -!- youlysses_zzz [~user@75-132-28-10.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:51:48 schem! 07:51:51 love to use if 07:51:57 if only ducumented how to do stuff 07:52:01 -!- ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:55:55 -!- abhinav [~abhinav@nat/cisco/x-fgxjaktlkmaylpau] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:56:23 azathoth99: what are you trying to do that is undocumented? 07:59:16 hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has joined #scheme 07:59:16 -!- hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has quit [Changing host] 07:59:16 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 08:01:40 all kinda stuff 08:01:43 ok 08:01:46 for example 08:02:32 how do I save all my definitions in a running session to a file? 08:08:27 abhinav [~abhinav@nat/cisco/x-efzbwcxdkunnqcxq] has joined #scheme 08:09:51 from interpretor? 08:11:26 azathoth99: usually you enter them into a file, and load that file into your interpreter periodically 08:11:34 what system are you using? 08:11:51 chicken 08:13:12 ipmonger: i use emacs/slime with mit/gnu scheme 08:13:29 ok 08:13:35 so yeah I use vi or ed 08:13:37 ok 08:13:49 so I just dev with 2 terminals then 1 with interpreter and 1 with file 08:13:50 ok 08:13:51 easy 08:14:13 now you dont usually do shell stuff from scheme right? I saw scsh but never really got into it.. 08:14:31 maybe eerything is even easier 08:14:39 I honestly havent tried a lot of stuff from scheme 08:17:34 scsh is a shell, like bash or sh or whatever 08:18:04 so you need to use a editor and load the file in the interpreter 08:18:16 azathoth99: i've written shell-like programs in scheme, most schemes support processes, i/o redirection and whatnot 08:18:38 azathoth99: there might be some kind of integration for vi(m) and scheme, not sure, never used it myself 08:20:36 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-163-217.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:20:55 if you use lisp you can use dribble to save the session but usualy as ecraven said you use a editor and run scheme from there 08:23:02 francis_wolke [4441a942@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.65.169.66] has joined #scheme 08:32:03 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-175-50.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 08:35:01 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.25.95] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:37:42 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.25.95] has joined #scheme 08:46:25 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-192-229-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:47:49 azathoth99, you can use also script, i just remember 08:48:29 hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-192-229-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 08:48:45 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.178.216.22] has quit [Quit: MichaelRaskin] 08:50:47 -!- francis_wolke [4441a942@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.65.169.66] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 08:50:59 francis_wolke [4441a942@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.65.169.66] has joined #scheme 08:51:45 -!- francis_wolke [4441a942@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.65.169.66] has quit [Client Quit] 08:52:35 :) 08:54:42 -!- Razz__ [~tim@kompiler.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:55:26 Razz [~tim@kompiler.org] has joined #scheme 08:55:36 -!- LAMMJohnson [~ja@user-5af436df.broadband.tesco.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:57:48 LAMMJohnson [~ja@user-5af436df.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #scheme 08:58:09 azathoth99, you know it, right? 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Instead of returning the :compilation-result structure, it's just returning the time to compile. 12:26:47 the returned result is: (: return (:ok (nil "0.003")) 2), for example 12:27:12 ipmonger: i'll have a look, https://github.com/ecraven/mit-scheme-swank is the one i'm using (which works for me :) 12:27:29 upgrading slime now, to check with newest slime 12:28:20 ecraven: thanks for checking. 12:30:17 -!- dsp [~dsp@178.167.254.116.threembb.ie] has quit [Quit: kotkot] 12:36:42 np, seems not many people (except me and you) use swank + mit/gnu scheme 12:40:06 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:40:33 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 12:41:22 -!- LAMMJohnson [~ja@user-5af436df.broadband.tesco.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:41:23 kobain [~kobian@unaffiliated/kobain] has joined #scheme 12:43:38 civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has joined #scheme 12:43:44 LAMMJohnson [~ja@user-5af43028.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #scheme 12:46:59 ipmonger: the one from that github repo works for me 12:47:02 did you try that? 12:47:09 it includes instructions on how to use it :) 12:47:42 I must be doing something wrongI'll try again :-) 12:48:19 i'll re-check whether that's actually the version i'm using :) 12:50:20 ok, i have some more changes, a second, i'll push them to github 12:50:41 cool. I used to use slime/swank with cmucl and sbcl, so I'm eager to use it with mit-scheme for this class assignment 12:51:35 edw [~edw@207.239.61.34] has joined #scheme 12:53:34 ok, pushed 12:53:37 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:53:39 use at your own risk! 12:53:53 there are some very bad hacks in there 12:53:55 but it works for me :) 12:54:00 thanks again! 12:55:29 jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has joined #scheme 12:55:36 -!- francis_wolke [4441a942@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.65.169.66] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:55:50 ipmonger: please tell me whether this works 12:55:57 will do 12:59:25 i should really clean this up some day :-/ 13:00:29 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:02:16 jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has joined #scheme 13:04:24 ecraven: so, I have a very simple s-exp: (let ((three (+ 1 2))) (pp three)) - when I go the end of the sexp and do C-c C-c, it sends the proper command to mit-scheme, but the results that come back are not correct. 13:04:56 am I remembering the wrong key-binding? 13:05:05 -!- abhinav [~abhinav@nat/cisco/x-jgfrtdgobhnjmryc] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:05:09 do you use the slime repl? 13:05:43 ah, i see your problem now 13:06:06 C-x C-e seems to work fine 13:06:31 C-c C-c is compile-defun, i'll need to check what that even does on mit/gnu scheme :) 13:07:19 ok, so I'll chalk it up to pilot error 13:07:37 not quite, the code in swank.scm is incorrect. i'll fix it, should only take a few minutes 13:08:04 coo 13:08:20 hehe, this probably means it'll take a week or so :-/ 13:09:05 :-/ 13:09:56 hm.. ok, i see the problem. i *really* don't understand how the slime/swank protocol was developped.. seems very arbitrary sometimes 13:12:22 it probably is.. 13:12:25 ;) 13:17:26 ipmonger: pushed, seems to work now 13:17:38 i'll check compile-file too :) 13:29:34 ok, done and pushed 13:33:26 thanks - i'll pull the latest 13:37:02 -!- przl [~przlrkt@46.231.183.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:37:07 great - awesome work - thanks! 13:38:58 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:39:20 hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has joined #scheme 13:39:20 -!- hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has quit [Changing host] 13:39:20 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 13:40:45 przl [~przlrkt@46.231.183.162] has joined #scheme 13:44:10 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:45:30 -!- rgrau [~user@80.Red-83-39-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46:41 ipmonger: if you hit any other problems, just add requests on github or ping me here, I'll try to do what I can to help! 13:48:05 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-148-78.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 13:57:23 thanks again! 13:58:30 very welcome :) 14:01:41 -!- tcsc [~tcsc@24-177-92-172.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 14:05:26 stamourv [~user@racket/stamourv] has joined #scheme 14:06:10 rgrau [~user@80.Red-83-39-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 14:29:34 tcsc [~tcsc@24-177-92-172.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 14:35:13 thatJasonSmith [~vader@ip68-102-56-198.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #scheme 14:35:25 mikecsh [~mikecsh@host-92-20-26-231.as13285.net] has joined #scheme 14:41:52 -!- fzappa [~user@int.emakina.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48:08 -!- mikecsh [~mikecsh@host-92-20-26-231.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: mikecsh] 15:01:10 -!- levi` [~user@c-24-10-225-212.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:41 levi` [~user@c-24-10-225-212.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:02:05 pierpa [~user@host117-20-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #scheme 15:13:15 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Quit: bye] 15:16:05 trusktr [~trusktr@130.86.99.226] has joined #scheme 15:19:56 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 15:28:56 Just to make sure I'm reading this right, implementations of r7rs-small aren't required to support arbitrary-precision arithmetic? 15:29:14 Am I imagining that r5rs required this? 15:30:26 Maybe and yes. 15:31:42 That's great. Efficiently implementing the numeric tower has always seemed daunting 15:40:51 avery [~avery@host-74-211-18-15.beyondbb.com] has joined #scheme 15:48:24 Integer and rational arithmetic is easy. What's hard is getting approximations fast and accurate. 15:57:29 I'm conveniently ignoring the full numerical tower in r5 15:57:38 Actually my impl. only has integers right now. :/ 15:57:57 Integers are useful for all the -other- things numbers are usef for, like string/vector/list indexes... 15:59:51 -!- bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 16:00:02 bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has joined #scheme 16:02:35 miql [~miql@ip68-98-19-126.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #scheme 16:03:45 -!- dnolen` [~user@80.232.109.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:17:48 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 16:20:53 I'm right now only supporting (fixed precision) integers, floats, and rationals 16:21:35 I'd rather support complex than rational, but i came up with a clever way to store most rationals that wouldn't work for complex. 16:23:31 as far as fast approximations, i'd figure just using ieee floats would be enough for most cases. In terms of things like yielding a rational for `sqrt` and such, afaik every implementation does it differently so whatever is easiest is what i'll end up doing 16:27:28 if anybody's curious, the trick for rationals that I can store them as immediates as long as the numerator and denominator both can fit in under a certain number of bits, in my case 24. This actually turns out to be bascally all rationals in practice 16:28:43 Unfortunately, It might not be worthwhile because most programs don't use rational numbers afaik... 16:29:21 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@theo1.theochem.tu-muenchen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:37:38 By `getting approximations fast and accurate', I meant `doing a good job with floating-point'. 16:38:00 The usual way to represent rationals is as a ratio of integers. 16:39:00 Right, the only unique thing about mine is that i'm able to store it as an immediate, overlapping a 64 bit pointer 16:39:39 and is there a reason not to just use hardware floats? 16:40:52 -!- przl [~przlrkt@46.231.183.162] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:41:50 Well, if your hardware doesn't have an FPU, then you can't use it...but anyway, yes, unless you have a reason to do something exotic like SLI, you want to use floating-point to implement Scheme inexact arithmetic. 16:42:12 -!- Reisen is now known as Reiser 16:42:35 Unless you have arbitrary-precision integers, ratios probably aren't terribly useful. 16:43:47 francis_wolke [45b5caf6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.69.181.202.246] has joined #scheme 16:43:49 Yeah, I'm probably going to end up supporting the whole numeric tower 16:43:56 not initially though 16:48:04 I've spent several days brainstorming about it so it would be a waste not to. 16:49:06 And I'm only targeting x86-64 for now, so that gives me a great deal of leeway in terms of the implementation. (specifically I can rely on SSE2) 16:50:52 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60A2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 16:57:20 abhinav [~abhinav@nat/cisco/x-oufglpkubbknbubh] has joined #scheme 16:57:29 joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@gw-s1-p-nat.scc.losrios.edu] has joined #scheme 16:57:48 -!- agumonkey [~agu@52.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03:12 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 17:05:29 agumonkey [~agu@52.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 17:15:04 -!- joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@gw-s1-p-nat.scc.losrios.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:20:14 przl [~przlrkt@p5B298D1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 17:21:07 adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:21:07 -!- dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:21:26 dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:21:37 -!- trusktr [~trusktr@130.86.99.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:22:47 -!- francis_wolke [45b5caf6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.69.181.202.246] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:23:28 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:24:02 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25:39 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:31:55 -!- brianloveswords [~brianlove@li124-154.members.linode.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:33:48 brianloveswords [~brianlove@li124-154.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 17:42:29 Hm, the R7RS spec says (lightly edited for size) "If an implementation supports multiple threads ... then `parameterize` must not change any parameters in any thread other than the current and threads created inside .". This means parameters should be implemented as thread-specific variables, right? 17:42:42 jao [~jao@118.Red-83-41-22.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 17:42:45 -!- jao [~jao@118.Red-83-41-22.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:42:46 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 17:44:29 joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@mail.concordusapps.com] has joined #scheme 17:44:50 I guess all I'm not clear on is what happens if a continuation captured inside the body of `parameterize` is invoked from another thread. 17:45:15 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60A2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:45:53 In general, I'd appreciate any pointers that could be given on interactions between threads and continuations 17:52:22 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-148-78.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:52:28 -!- avery [~avery@host-74-211-18-15.beyondbb.com] has quit [Quit: avery] 17:54:33 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60A2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 17:57:59 avery [~avery@host-74-211-18-15.beyondbb.com] has joined #scheme 17:58:02 Ah, my reading of http://www.deinprogramm.de/sperber/papers/adding-threads.pdf leads me to believe i just should capture the parameters when the continuation is captured 17:58:56 my knowledge of denotational semantics is, well, remedial at best, but I think i see what I need to do. 18:00:06 Use Scheme48's algorithm for DYNAMIC-WIND and parameters (called `fluids' there). 18:00:18 scheme/rts/wind.scm, scheme/rts/fluid.scm, scheme/rts/thread.scm 18:01:08 dnolen` [~user@80.232.109.46] has joined #scheme 18:02:32 waxysubs [hope0@world.peace.net] has joined #scheme 18:04:54 Ah! that's extremely useful, thank you! 18:11:01 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-130-152.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:15:01 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5B298D1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:23:32 -!- arthurma` [~user@177.148.132.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:30:42 -!- `fogus [~fogus@freedom.d-a-s.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:44 mefogus [~fogus@freedom.d-a-s.com] has joined #scheme 18:34:59 arthurmaciel [~user@177.148.144.64] has joined #scheme 18:35:10 -!- dessos_ is now known as dessos 18:38:06 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 18:44:43 aranhoide [~smuxi@238.Red-95-122-80.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 18:44:50 -!- abhinav [~abhinav@nat/cisco/x-oufglpkubbknbubh] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:47:54 -!- wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:56:59 edw_ [~edw@207.239.61.34] has joined #scheme 18:57:32 -!- dnolen` [~user@80.232.109.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:58:00 -!- agumonkey [~agu@52.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:36 -!- edw [~edw@207.239.61.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:01:01 agumonkey [~agu@52.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 19:01:05 wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 19:01:37 aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #scheme 19:04:28 Tanami_ [~carnage@9ch.in] has joined #scheme 19:07:42 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 19:07:43 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:07:43 jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has joined #scheme 19:08:55 so, has the r7rs-small plebiscite passed, pending tweaks like the function self-|eq?|ness? 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