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#scheme 13:38:18 any readable real life scheme open source project? 13:41:11 -!- civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 13:41:26 -!- Oejet1 [~Oejet@x1-6-74-44-01-fe-cf-20.k1165.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:41:48 Oejet [~Oejet@unaffiliated/oejet] has joined #scheme 13:44:31 help2013: some of gimps scripts maybe 13:45:08 help2013: cm (common music) is written in scheme. In version 2, it's a scheme implemented in Common Lisp. In version 3 it's a scheme implemented in C or C++. 13:45:40 pjb: is it this ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Lisp_Music 13:46:11 No, it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Music (no page yet) 13:46:22 CLM is implemented in CL. 13:46:39 http://commonmusic.sourceforge.net/ 13:52:25 -!- aoh_ is now known as aoh 13:52:44 -!- miql [~miql@ip72-201-117-173.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:54:10 is scheme/lisp growing? any chance of it reaching the point where people can actually code in scheme professionally? i guess this is asked all the time, i apologize for it. tried googling but people seem to not really say, just talking about why/if it's good/bad 13:54:31 s/say/know 13:55:34 rockhardrooster: people can use lisp or scheme professionnaly. Only not a lot of people. 13:55:35 rockhardrooster: some people use scheme professionally 13:55:59 -!- sirdancealo3 [~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:56:16 I use it at work, for example. I know some people who use it too. 13:56:47 professionals don't matter that much for popularity 13:56:55 amateurs should be able to use it as well 13:57:30 One of the problem I see for using it at work is that people usually don't know lisp and just freak out when they see lisp code. 13:57:53 they don't freak out 13:58:14 they are too lazy to learn something new if they can do their work with something they already know :) 13:58:25 it's just that i'm considering a career in programming, because i enjoy it a lot, but i can't justify sitting alone coding in scheme when i feel like i'll be using something entirely different professionally. 13:58:38 because i'm cynical like that 13:59:07 feels like wasted time, y'know? 13:59:38 rockhardrooster: learn emacs and emacs lisp 13:59:48 rockhardrooster: in my experience, taking the scheme path is a hard road. It sometimes is rewarding, but it is not easy. 13:59:52 You'll have more chance to do something useful with your lisp knowledge :) 14:02:05 sirdancealot [~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #scheme 14:03:21 rockhardrooster: learning lisp is worth, no matter if you will use it at work or not. Using it at work may or may not be hard, depending on your work environment. 14:04:26 eli [~eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 14:04:26 -!- eli [~eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Changing host] 14:04:26 eli [~eli@racket/eli] has joined #scheme 14:04:29 hmm. well, i'll keep folding through SICP, i guess. thanks for the input, duders 14:04:49 jrajav [~jrajav@198.179.137.210] has joined #scheme 14:05:22 -!- aoh [~aki@80.75.99.115] has quit [Changing host] 14:05:22 aoh [~aki@unaffiliated/aoh] has joined #scheme 14:06:37 You're welcome. 14:21:16 -!- kobain [~kobian@unaffiliated/kobain] has quit [Quit: l'unica verità.. è la morte stessa!] 14:27:41 -!- Triclops256 is now known as Triclops256|away 14:33:21 jao [~jao@173.Red-79-144-32.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 14:33:25 -!- jao [~jao@173.Red-79-144-32.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:33:25 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 14:33:48 few people use "scheme" professionally, though some may use "a scheme imlementation" 14:34:57 microcode [~microcode@unaffiliated/microcolonel] has joined #scheme 14:35:02 though this is just a corollary of the widely known "few people use 'scheme' vs 'ascheme implementation'" result 14:40:07 i was looking at chicken specifically 14:41:55 -!- dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-32-223.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:42:11 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 14:44:07 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5B298FD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:44:24 przl [~przlrkt@p5B298FD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 14:46:38 rockhardrooster: that's what I use at work 14:47:27 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5B298FD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 14:47:38 przl [~przlrkt@p5B298FD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 14:48:55 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-172-148.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49:17 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-172-148.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:50:05 spobat [~spobat@p5DC77331.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 14:50:51 -!- agumonkey [~agu@101.217.72.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:55:08 agumonkey [~agu@101.217.72.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 15:03:14 hi 15:03:19 do you all use "DrRacket" ? 15:03:58 DrRacket does not seem to implement the whole "MIT scheme" specification, and it randomly crashes on my machine (which is annoying, because code gets lost and I got to write it again -.-) :p 15:04:07 mutley89 [~mutley89@host86-143-79-42.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 15:04:42 MIT scheme isn't a specification, but an implementation 15:05:23 okay, sorry for that 15:05:40 ijp do you use drracket? 15:05:47 if you want r6rs, use #lang r6rs. If you want r5rs, you are wrong, but use #lang r5rs 15:06:15 spobat: not very often 15:07:02 r6rs means? :D 15:07:22 the sixth revised report 15:07:26 I currently use #lang scheme 15:08:05 #lang scheme is the old name for #lang racket 15:08:22 it does not match any revised report exactly 15:08:44 okay. 15:08:57 I'll keep using racket then, if that's the best option 15:09:02 #lang racket * 15:10:49 spobat: I recommend #lang racket. That's what I usually use. 15:11:13 Re crashes: Which version are you using? Which platform? 15:12:20 2 15:12:43 Blice: ? 15:13:11 stamourv: there was supposed to b e a /w behind the 2 and I missed it somehow 15:13:23 5.3.1 / win8x64 15:14:01 spobat: There have been fixes for win64 recently. 15:14:16 5.3.4 was released earlier this week, and should include these fixes. 15:14:20 Wanna give it a try? 15:14:55 of course :) 15:15:04 -!- cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.25.200] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:23:14 rszeno [~rszeno@79.114.106.252] has joined #scheme 15:25:34 over here I forgot a set of parentheses, but the code did still "compile." Can you tell me _how_ it was interpreted before? 15:25:34 http://ideone.com/2GuP4S 15:25:56 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5B298FD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:25:57 masm [~masm@a213-22-163-216.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #scheme 15:26:07 przl [~przlrkt@p5B298FD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 15:27:22 -!- the-sun [542859de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.40.89.222] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:27:24 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-252-16.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 15:28:23 Scheme evaluated DIVIDE-ITER and N and ignored their values before proceeding to evaluate (+ TEST-DIVISOR 1). 15:29:54 ok 15:31:56 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:32:24 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 15:36:26 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:37:27 miql [~miql@ip72-201-117-173.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #scheme 15:37:38 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-252-16.netcologne.de] has 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[~samth@c-76-16-238-41.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:11:19 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:11:31 miql [~miql@ip72-201-117-173.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #scheme 22:12:05 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@93-80-183-196.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21:18 -!- rockhardrooster [~rockhardr@unaffiliated/rockhardrooster] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:30:02 brcrth: There's an SICP package for Racket. 22:30:25 http://www.neilvandyke.org/racket-sicp/ 22:31:37 -!- ASau [~user@p5797F607.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:33 ASau [~user@p5797F607.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 22:39:41 -!- sea6ear [~connor@pool-71-123-132-190.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #scheme 22:42:54 -!- adiii [~adityavit@NYUFWA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-08.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:48:58 stamourv: I'm kinda avoiding Racket since it's "more than scheme" (don't take me wrong, Racket is awesome, but I want a more "pure" scheme). 22:49:27 there is nothing more schemy than adding a bunch of unportable extensions 22:54:59 ijp: yes, and in your own implementation 22:55:39 alas :( 22:57:45 ijp: what I said was that every schemer will want to/build it's own implementation, even if it's just for fun/practice/etc. 22:58:15 and then they release them, and we all suffer 22:58:50 ijp: and It'll be R5RS 23:00:12 so they'll claim 23:00:40 but as a rule they either don't implement macros, don't implement continuations, or don't implement proper tail calls 23:00:49 usually two, sometimes all three 23:03:10 ijp: or hygienic macros 23:03:28 covered that one first 23:04:18 It's weird to talk about programming without know how to do it. 23:04:30 In my case. 23:05:14 -!- agumonkey [~agu@101.217.72.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:08:52 mfischer [~user@209.49.75.165] has joined #scheme 23:12:04 -!- mfischer [~user@209.49.75.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12:47 zacts [~user@unaffiliated/zacts] has joined #scheme 23:18:16 brcrth: I don't think for SICP it really matters if you use "pure" or "impure" Scheme. The book isn't really about Scheme. 23:21:20 asumu: Oh, sure. Scheme is "just a simple language" to help through the book. I thought that using a different/new implementation could cause problems 23:30:14 brcrth: pure scheme is r5rs (or r7rs). 23:30:20 http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/ 23:30:30 That's 50 page to learn by heart ;-) 23:44:51 pjb: thanks! 23:49:41 ASau` [~user@p4FF97CD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 23:51:25 -!- kvda [~kvda@unaffiliated/kvda] has quit [Quit: z____z] 23:53:36 -!- ASau [~user@p5797F607.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:54:54 kvda [~kvda@unaffiliated/kvda] has joined #scheme