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16:45:02 i don't know from where you get the 'y', it shouldn't occure except if you type it 16:45:08 i assume 16:46:37 By some reason I've observed such behaviour in inferior scheme in emacs. 16:46:37 you didn't type it? 16:46:53 No. 16:46:57 Od course no. 16:47:13 maybe come from emacs, somewhere on the road 16:47:44 it happend every time or accidentaly? 16:48:03 everytime until I've restarted inferior. 16:48:18 you can reproduce it? 16:48:21 -!- snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 16:48:35 After restart, no. 16:49:19 is probably a bug influenced by context, is a guess 16:50:45 I have another question. 16:51:05 in CL I was doing: (defparameter x (list 1 2 3)) 16:51:20 (setf (car x) 2) 16:51:28 And then I've got (2 2 3) 16:51:34 How to do this in scheme? 16:51:37 -!- turbofail [~user@107.215.216.65] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53:00 you have info pages installed for guile? 16:55:42 C-h i will load info and with m you can go to guile reference manual -> api references -> Compound Data Types -> Lists -> List Modifications 16:56:49 hiroaki [~hiroaki@p5DC6213C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 16:59:43 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-174-7.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:00:16 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-160-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:00:54 `fogus [~fogus@freedom.d-a-s.com] has joined #scheme 17:02:21 otwieracz? 17:02:32 I've googled it in GNU docs. 17:02:57 (define a (list 1 2 3)) 17:03:16 then (list-set! a 2 'b) 17:03:26 will give (1 2 b) 17:04:03 list-set!, first arg is the list, second index 0-based, last is value 17:04:36 i thought is more easy to know how to find then to get a direct answer, :) 17:06:41 otwieracz, http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/List-Modification.html#List-Modification 17:06:42 http://tinyurl.com/crjmeu3 17:07:11 Thanks for help. 17:07:18 welcome 17:08:12 That's guile specific, though? 17:08:40 i don't know, :) 17:10:09 -!- przl [~przlrkt@46.231.183.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:10:32 -!- taylanub [tub@p4FD93269.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:10:58 taylanub [tub@p4FD92454.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 17:12:29 cdidd [~cdidd@93-80-155-118.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 17:14:22 Euthy, probably is guile specific, after a short look i didn't find it in r5rs 17:17:42 So, how to do it not guile-specific? 17:19:06 i don't know the answer, probably sombody else could help 17:19:27 (set-car! x 2) 17:19:36 rszeno: http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/ 17:20:57 moeve [~moeve@121.Red-79-154-74.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 17:25:13 pjb, thank you 17:25:48 i think otwieracz want to change the element of a list at a given index 17:26:49 is a guess 17:28:21 jewel [~jewel@105-236-178-137.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #scheme 17:29:34 if you expect to read the r5rs and find a common utility function, you are very much mistaken 17:29:51 probably, :) 17:30:56 but since i don't have much experience with different schemes i could assume that if is not there could be specific 17:31:40 otwieracz: guile supports srfi 17 (generalised set!) but it isn't enabled by default 17:32:57 Well, there are only half a dozen srfi supported by the majority of the implementations. Most of them are only implemented on a couple of implementations. 17:33:16 I am well aware 17:34:22 https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tRCHK6jWXuKMABKAfoOwWqw 17:34:42 otwieracz put '(use-modules (srfi srfi-17))' on top to use srfi-17 17:35:22 There isn't even a single srfi supported by all schemes. 17:37:01 well, that assumes that "all schemes" is a well-defined concept 17:37:56 Some common srfis are supported by all the "major" scheme implementations (whatever that means). 17:38:08 finally doesn't matter, could be good or bad it depend of use case 17:38:08 fuck, even proper tail calls arent supported by "all schemes" 17:38:28 Triclops256|away [~Triclops2@199.19.116.207] has joined #scheme 17:38:32 Then the are not scheme 17:38:34 -!- Triclops256|away is now known as Triclops256 17:38:34 -!- Triclops256 [~Triclops2@199.19.116.207] has quit [Changing host] 17:38:34 Triclops256 [~Triclops2@Powder/Developer/Triclops200] has joined #scheme 17:38:36 they* 17:38:36 -!- trusktr [~trusktr@c-71-193-54-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:38:46 I bet we could find a few "scheme" implementations that aren't even lexically scoped 17:38:55 :-) 17:39:13 in practice, most "scheme" implementations are weekend me-too lisps 17:39:21 or some like rep with is between lisp and scheme, :) 17:39:37 still lexically scoped! 17:40:10 with a fractional number of users, since the author maintains more than one broken implementation 17:40:28 rep? 17:41:14 is very good for some tasks 17:42:14 i mean, from my point of view 17:43:03 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 17:53:03 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:59:44 -!- `fogus [~fogus@freedom.d-a-s.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:01:17 robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:04:03 -!- robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04:17 robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:12:56 -!- rage_ [~rage@unaffiliated/ffs] has quit [Quit: Happiness is not achieved by the conscious pursuit of happiness; 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I want to ask, if one line of amb macro definition could be commented out.. (or example which will behave differently) see: http://pastebin.com/fc3F9dF1 thank you very much! it is puzzling me 22:17:58 Nafai [~nafai@174-126-77-168.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #scheme 22:21:06 ozzloy [~ozzloy@ozzloy.lifeafterking.org] has joined #scheme 22:21:06 -!- ozzloy [~ozzloy@ozzloy.lifeafterking.org] has quit [Changing host] 22:21:06 ozzloy [~ozzloy@unaffiliated/ozzloy] has joined #scheme 22:29:46 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-160-188.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31:10 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:32:02 -!- ozzloy [~ozzloy@unaffiliated/ozzloy] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:37:32 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 22:44:59 acedia [~rage@unaffiliated/ffs] has joined #scheme 22:46:08 X-Scale [email@2001:470:1f14:135b::2] has joined #scheme 22:52:10 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD622C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:53:08 old_sock [~old@c-67-190-167-67.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:54:47 -!- X-Scale [email@2001:470:1f14:135b::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:08 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-21-70.dynamic.telemach.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:58:42 -!- walter|r [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:58:45 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD622C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 23:03:11 relation: I suspect there is some subtlety that makes it necessary, but I can't think of one 23:03:28 ozzloy [~ozzloy@ozzloy.lifeafterking.org] has joined #scheme 23:03:28 -!- ozzloy [~ozzloy@ozzloy.lifeafterking.org] has quit [Changing host] 23:03:28 ozzloy [~ozzloy@unaffiliated/ozzloy] has joined #scheme 23:04:14 maybe interacting with other continuations somehow 23:07:23 HectorAE [~Panhuman@74-134-161-138.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #scheme 23:08:28 walter|r [~walter@ip-64-134-101-130.public.wayport.net] has joined #scheme 23:08:46 -!- ozzloy [~ozzloy@unaffiliated/ozzloy] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:11:16 Live long and prosper.  23:11:19 -!- yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:12:14 ozzloy [~ozzloy@unaffiliated/ozzloy] has joined #scheme 23:16:17 neena [~neena@codesurfers.net] has joined #scheme 23:19:54 -!- agumonkey [~agu@19.217.72.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:32:15 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD622C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:39:44 I love simply scheme 23:40:02  23:41:11 ijp` [~user@host81-155-240-14.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 23:41:15 Yeah that's what I'm talking about 23:44:32 -!- ijp [~user@host81-155-30-39.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:46:01 -!- ijp` [~user@host81-155-240-14.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:48:29 Pop poll 23:48:46 What is your favorite Scheme procedure (built in)? 23:49:19 ASau`` [~user@p5797F512.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 23:50:30 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-165-216.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:52:32 -!- ozzloy [~ozzloy@unaffiliated/ozzloy] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:53:00 -!- ASau` [~user@p5797F687.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:53:39 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 23:53:44 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:54:34 -!- walter|r [~walter@ip-64-134-101-130.public.wayport.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:56:30  23:56:56 ( () (...))