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03:52:32 -!- Triclops256|away is now known as Triclops256 03:53:17 Sgeo [~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 03:56:43 no, nobody, :) 04:01:09 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6057D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 04:01:34 :P 04:01:51 someone recommended me scheme for AI 04:01:55 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:01:55 -!- alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD61B51.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:02:05 any good tutorials on that? 04:02:33 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 04:04:15 see sicp from topic, it help me 04:05:18 plus, on http://schemers.org/ you can find links to books, tutorials, etc. 04:05:37 link is on topic too 04:07:59 if who recommand you scheme had norvig book in mind he probably think to lisp 04:12:27 tacey [~tacey@220.231.27.150] has joined #scheme 04:41:36 -!- Triclops256 is now known as Triclops256|away 04:44:24 -!- tacey [~tacey@220.231.27.150] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 04:47:25 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:50:32 -!- rszeno [~rszeno@79.114.101.38] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:50:48 tacey [~tacey@211.101.48.70] has joined #scheme 04:56:28 -!- tacey [~tacey@211.101.48.70] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 04:59:04 tacey [~tacey@220.231.27.150] has joined #scheme 05:00:01 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:19:12 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-26-22-189.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:43:30 kujaka [~josh@c-68-36-88-109.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:44:27 -!- kujaka [~josh@c-68-36-88-109.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #scheme 05:47:53 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6057D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:49:43 -!- kryptiskt [~kryptiskt@213.101.209.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:10:17 jarod_ch_ [~jarod_che@115.192.189.165] has joined #scheme 06:24:31 answer_42 [~answer_42@ip82-139-81-70.lijbrandt.net] has joined #scheme 06:50:20 -!- zacts [~blueberry@unaffiliated/zacts] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:51:30 rszeno [~rszeno@79.114.83.75] has joined #scheme 06:52:11 zacts [~blueberry@67-0-178-74.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 07:31:12 Regis__ [~Regis@189.34.44.144] has joined #scheme 07:32:32 -!- GOMADWarrior [~Regis@189.34.44.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:38:52 -!- robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:39:08 robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:39:58 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:41:27 -!- robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:41:41 robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:41:54 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:42:33 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 07:48:14 cinolt [4247579e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.71.87.158] has joined #scheme 07:56:20 I'm trying to write a procedure that makes use of the distributive property of an algebraic expression to simplify it: http://paste.lisp.org/display/136712 As the second example shows, there can be more than one possible outcome, I don't need to enumerate them all, just a valid one. I'm wondering if someone could provide me with at least a qualitative description of how they would start attacking this problem? Thanks :) 07:58:53 -!- icrazyhack [~horieyui@180.154.125.13] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:05:07 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-184-136.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 08:06:18 noam_ [~noam@213.57.201.130] has joined #scheme 08:08:33 -!- noam [~noam@213.57.201.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:10:30 -!- cinolt [4247579e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.71.87.158] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:10:30 snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 08:13:15 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:13:45 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 08:18:13 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:19:40 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 08:23:42 BossKonaSegwaY1 [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 08:24:06 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26:20 -!- ivan\ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 08:26:42 ivan\ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined #scheme 08:30:28 -!- BossKonaSegwaY1 [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has left #scheme 08:35:45 -!- ivan\ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 08:37:12 ivan\ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined #scheme 08:37:17 -!- yosafbridge [~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 08:41:55 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-155-18.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:46:11 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 08:48:04 -!- tupi` [~user@186.205.69.180] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:53:25 -!- Sambio [~sambio@unaffiliated/sambio] has quit [] 08:55:18 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-130-181.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 09:01:43 yosafbridge [~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 09:08:59 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:11:35 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 09:23:48 -!- ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:40:09 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 09:44:53 -!- Regis__ [~Regis@189.34.44.144] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:58:38 bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has joined #scheme 09:58:39 -!- bjz_ [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:15:19 -!- snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 10:16:06 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6057D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 10:41:00 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6057D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:44:02 pumpkin360 [~main@aags29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #scheme 10:47:51 hi. I have been bothering you recently asking for a neat scheme interpreter. Ended up using mit-scheme (dispite the encougagment towards racket and lack of working version of mit-scheme on debian repo (64-bit)). Right now have a problem - how can I know figure out detalis on the implemenations of insturctions ? For example I would like to know is "(append! x (list 1)) 10:47:52 " 10:48:10 executed in constant (probably) time ? 10:48:37 -!- yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:48:44 and what happens if I use it on a cyclic list ? 10:49:16 ( sorry for my English - it's not my native language and I have some problems with spelling) 10:50:03 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-184-136.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:58:23 Anyone could tell me where can this information be found ? mit-scheme reference doesn't seem to be helpful or I am looking in the wrong place / 11:02:50 try apt-get source mit-scheme 11:04:41 but i'm not sure you will get what you expect 11:05:16 I downloaded the 64-binaries from gnu.org. 11:05:57 The problem is that I would like to know how are the procedures implemented or at least in what complexity. 11:06:11 actually the complexity would be enought. 11:08:46 are same source for all versions 11:08:52 sources 11:10:08 reading from the sources... sound fun :P. If nobody have more friendly ideas I will give it a try (possibly will learn more... ) 11:10:23 download the source package and do a "find ./mit-scheme-whatever -name '*.scm' -exec grep -Hn '(define (append ' {} \;" 11:10:57 is probably a macro 11:13:15 thanks! 11:15:07 you are welcome, :) friendly idea is the oposite of hostile idea? 11:19:46 no.. definitely not. A friendly idea is the one which doesn't require you to reinvent the wheel to use it. 11:20:24 but it doing so will probably make it easier later. 11:30:52 if this is what you are looking for, order of complexity can be measured without looking to the sources by simply doing some tests with different values 11:32:06 anyway will depend of context where you use the code, so i think this is more relevant then searching in the code 11:36:54 yeah. I can do it. Probably a good idea. 11:36:59 :) 11:37:06 *laziness* 11:44:42 -!- pumpkin360 [~main@aags29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #scheme 11:52:05 -!- Euthy [~euthy@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:56:24 pumpkin360 [~main@aags29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #scheme 11:57:24 -!- tacey [~tacey@220.231.27.150] has quit [Quit: ...] 12:01:58 cdidd [~cdidd@93-80-129-99.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 12:27:25 agumonkey [~agu@8.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 12:32:40 dzhus [~dzhus@95-31-27-234.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 12:39:18 yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has joined #scheme 12:49:02 -!- tenq [~tenq@ip68-100-228-234.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:50:08 -!- leppie [~lolcow@105-236-141-61.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [] 12:53:34 leppie [~lolcow@105-236-141-61.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #scheme 13:04:06 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-21-70.dynamic.telemach.ba] has joined #scheme 13:04:53 GOMADWarrior [~Regis@189.34.44.144] has joined #scheme 13:05:11 what if there was a game where ppl code?? 13:14:23 Like http://codespells.blogspot.fr/2012/09/introducingcodespells.html ? 13:22:41 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-130-181.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 13:25:48 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-130-181.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 13:27:20 snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 13:33:39 *rszeno* i'm against torture 13:35:14 -!- jarod_ch_ [~jarod_che@115.192.189.165] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/] 13:36:41 -!- trusktr [~trusktr@c-71-193-54-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:47:29 civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has joined #scheme 14:04:13 acedia [~rage@unaffiliated/ffs] has joined #scheme 14:04:43 -!- rage [~rage@unaffiliated/ffs] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:11:14 -!- pumpkin360 [~main@aags29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:16:07 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 14:28:15 -!- rszeno [~rszeno@79.114.83.75] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:31:10 pumpkin360 [~main@aags29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #scheme 14:49:35 -!- acedia [~rage@unaffiliated/ffs] has quit [Quit: ffsIRC v0.666] 14:57:48 -!- yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:01:47 paddymahoney [~paddymaho@198-84-186-52.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined #scheme 15:03:22 tupi [~user@186.205.69.180] has joined #scheme 15:06:11 acedia [~rage@unaffiliated/ffs] has joined #scheme 15:06:44 tupi` [~user@186.205.69.180] has joined #scheme 15:10:59 -!- tupi [~user@186.205.69.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:18:34 -!- snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 15:20:01 yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has joined #scheme 15:26:38 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 15:29:04 -!- civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:36:05 what if there was a mmo game, a very cool one 15:37:04 Yes, what if? 15:38:14 but it'd be in a browser 15:38:20 with node.js 15:41:36 I don't think there's any game like that 15:41:55 and browser is so practical for the player, nothing to download 15:45:15 -!- pumpkin360 [~main@aags29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #scheme 16:00:59 -!- Sgeo is now known as SgeoOnFire 16:03:58 Euthy [~euthy@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has joined #scheme 16:04:41 dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-32-223.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 16:09:35 amoe [~amoe@host-92-26-161-93.as13285.net] has joined #scheme 16:30:37 -!- dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-32-223.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31:26 dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-32-223.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 16:35:09 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 16:39:45 kryptiskt [~kryptiskt@213.101.209.229] has joined #scheme 16:41:04 just me and you, on a one way trip to prison 16:41:17 selling drugs, we all wrapped up in this living 16:47:33 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:48:09 SanderM [~quassel@vhe-400104.sshn.net] has joined #scheme 16:54:43 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:56:47 -!- levi [~user@c-174-52-219-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:00:56 -!- dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-32-223.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:02:16 scoofy [~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 17:02:16 juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has joined #scheme 17:03:14 snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 17:05:34 adu_ [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-197.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 17:13:41 adiii [~adityavit@c-68-45-153-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:16:03 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-166-50.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:21:29 doesthiswork [~Adium@75.87.251.5] has joined #scheme 17:24:54 -!- zacts [~blueberry@67-0-178-74.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:24:54 zacts [~blueberry@unaffiliated/zacts] has joined #scheme 17:26:04 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-154-130.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 17:27:19 jrajav [~jrajav@71-82-124-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #scheme 17:31:45 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:05 tupi [~david@186.205.69.180] has joined #scheme 17:35:06 they fuarking bannd me 17:35:22 little old me 17:35:49 tupi`` [~user@186.205.69.180] has joined #scheme 17:35:51 -!- tupi [~david@186.205.69.180] has quit [Client Quit] 17:40:06 Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 17:40:24 -!- tupi` [~user@186.205.69.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:40:56 trusktr [~trusktr@c-71-193-54-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:42:36 dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-32-223.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:57:42 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-154-130.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:59:36 about time 18:16:26 Sambio [~sambio@unaffiliated/sambio] has joined #scheme 18:23:37 -!- dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-32-223.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:24:20 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6057D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:31:21 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6057D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:22 alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD6057D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:38:55 unkown247 [~lover@94.97.172.129] has joined #scheme 18:39:27 hello 18:40:29 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 18:41:00 I think not! 18:41:41 Oh, hi. 18:42:56 how is everyone doing ? 18:43:27 I'm doing splendidly, but I don't know about anyone else. 18:43:34 Rather broad question, isn't it? 18:43:57 I have a brown paper bag with dark stains to indicate freshness by my side. 18:48:12 what do the stains do to indicate freshness? 18:48:29 dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-32-223.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 18:49:07 They're just there. If they weren't there then the contents obviously wouldn't be fresh! 18:50:02 but is is possible to have stains and non-fresh contents? 18:50:29 No. 18:50:31 -!- snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 18:50:38 Any other questions? 18:51:01 interesting. What are the contents? 18:51:13 I dunno. 18:52:19 ah, the bag is polymorphic with respect to its contents. 18:53:26 alexei_ [~amgarchin@p4FD6057D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:53:28 -!- alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD6057D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58:28 -!- Sambio [~sambio@unaffiliated/sambio] has quit [] 18:59:36 tupi``` [~user@186.205.69.180] has joined #scheme 19:00:11 -!- walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:01:30 walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:01:36 -!- tupi``` [~user@186.205.69.180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:01:52 Hello, would someone mind checking my work? I am new to scheme. I wanted to take a function my friend wrote in both haskell and java, and do it in scheme 19:01:53 tupi``` [~user@186.205.69.180] has joined #scheme 19:02:00 before I show him I want to make sure I didn't do it really poorly lol 19:02:56 http://pastie.org/private/03plrwbkgnrthcvubelg#2,8-9,11,14 19:02:57 this is his 19:03:07 http://pastie.org/7541084 19:03:08 mine 19:03:24 -!- dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-32-223.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:03:42 -!- tupi`` [~user@186.205.69.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:06:07 tupi```` [~user@186.205.69.180] has joined #scheme 19:06:28 -!- tupi``` [~user@186.205.69.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:08:36 -!- tupi```` [~user@186.205.69.180] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:50 tupi```` [~user@186.205.69.180] has joined #scheme 19:10:14 offby1 [~user@ec2-50-18-28-110.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #scheme 19:10:45 -!- offby1 [~user@ec2-50-18-28-110.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Changing host] 19:10:45 offby1 [~user@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has joined #scheme 19:13:28 -!- tupi```` [~user@186.205.69.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:13:42 tupi```` [~user@186.205.69.180] has joined #scheme 19:16:11 -!- ASau [~user@p4FF96382.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:16:46 ASau [~user@p4FF96382.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:22:15 -!- GOMADWarrior [~Regis@189.34.44.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:24:02 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-166-50.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:16 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 19:24:18 -!- tertl3 [~William@108-85-16-151.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31:01 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-154-130.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 19:35:25 Blice_: `eq?' is like "pointer-comparison" (if you know C) .. for characters there's `char=?'. 19:36:27 You might want to give your variables better names. `translate-io' should read better. And I have no idea what "rfw" is supposed to mean; if possible it should be something that tells what it is. 19:36:27 or just eqv? 19:38:35 And then 2-space indentation is usually preferred in Lisp. 19:39:10 By the way, aren't passwords (and PKC, for that matter) special cases of security-by-obscurity? 19:39:23 no 19:39:47 ijp: Really? 19:39:55 security-by-obscurity generally refers to secrecy of the method 19:40:12 you aren't going to get far without some hidden knowledge 19:40:22 Blice_: Also, (define (fn arg1 arg2 ...) body) is a short-cut for (define fn (lambda (arg1 arg2 ...) body)). 19:42:13 Kerckhoff's principles, klutometis. 19:43:54 Riastradh: Ah, that's fantastic; thanks. 19:45:09 Find a copy of Ferguson, Kohno, & Schneier, _Cryptography Engineering_, and reserve some quality pillow time for it. 19:48:33 -!- unkown247 [~lover@94.97.172.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:51:41 -!- agumonkey [~agu@8.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:53:37 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