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Das Schemenmaschin ist NICHT fuer der gelambdapoken und environgrabben. Oderwise ist easy to schnappen der Semantikswerk, blowenprogrammen, und poppenarguments mit flamenflumen. 21:31:55 Voting in the R7RS-small plebiscite begins Tuesday, by order of the Most Exalted Grand Potentates, The Members Of The Steam, I mean Scheme, Steering Committee! 21:32:16 Or is it Friday? I forget. 21:32:41 Friday. Sorry. 21:33:51 ooh cool 21:34:34 So if you want to vote, read your draft and polish up your brightly colored yeo^W^W^W^W^W^W work on your statement of interest (if you haven't written one already) 21:34:49 I'm looking for a scheme project to work on that would be useful to other people. 21:34:55 only scheme no C 21:35:08 jcowan: who may vote? 21:35:15 -!- snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 21:35:42 zacts: How many other people? I have a list of many libraries whose implementations would be very useful to me. 21:36:00 And thence perhaps to others as well, especially if the libraries become part of R7RS-large. 21:37:02 great, that only means we have 2 years left before we all start work on r8rs 21:37:05 Most of them are not very big. 21:37:32 jcowan: would you mind providing me your list of libraries that need implementations. I'm looking at working on things off and on over the next 6months - 1year while in college off and on. 21:37:40 long bunch of words :p 21:38:29 rudybot: 2 more years, and 100 more scheme implementations no-one uses 21:38:30 ijp: no-one, ever 21:39:53 zacts: See the following pages at http://trac.sacrideo.us/wg/wiki/ 21:39:56 what can be done to unite the scheme community to make it a more mainstream language? or am I just way off on my understanding of the current situation? 21:40:32 well, there is a windmill over there you can go charge at with a lance 21:41:04 a random note, but george harrison made an appearance in monty python's holy grail 21:42:50 anyway, yeah cool 21:43:07 CombinatorsCowan, ConcatenateCowan, TallyCowan, AssociationListsCowan, SubstituteCowan, BinaryHeapsCowan, SearchMismatchCowan, StringBytevectorConversionCowan, SymbolsCowan, BoxesCowan, SetsCowan, NumericVectorsCowan, CyclesMedernach, MultipleValuesCowan, PathnamesCowan. 21:43:57 I want to make scheme more accessible for people, at least for educational purposes, but even better for practical purposes. 21:44:44 -!- kuribas [~user@94-227-88-230.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:45:17 zacts: IMO, the best thing people can do is write code that works on more than one implementation. And hope and pray it catches on. 21:45:36 cool, I see. 21:47:13 -!- youlysses [~user@75-132-7-80.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:48:33 If reality is a simulation, are we players or NPCs 21:50:54 *jcowan* is an NPC 21:51:21 zacts, you should make sure your code works on Chibi 21:54:20 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:55:27 Sambio [~sambio@unaffiliated/sambio] has joined #scheme 21:56:53 -!- Euthy [~euthy@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:01:37 -!- walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:05:50 jcowan: with chibi scheme could one use scheme as an OS kernel extension language then let's say NetBSD's approach which is using lua for an extension language? 22:06:17 I don't feel comfortable with a language, lua, that has array indices starting with 1 instead of 0 22:06:57 I suppose it would depend on the details of what's available in the kernel. You would need e.g. to change malloc to kmalloc. 22:07:29 Note that 0 is a valid index to a Lua object, though it's not processed by the array-like functions. 22:07:41 even more confusing 22:07:55 -!- dnolen [~user@rrcs-208-105-4-254.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:57 so sometimes 0 is used as a valid index and sometimes 1 is used depending on the context 22:08:49 0 is treated as a non-numeric index, in effect. 22:08:56 A note of clarification: one person has a side project to use Lua as a kernel extension language; it's not part of NetBSD, and I'm not sure he has written any applications with it other than toggling gpio pins (which one can do from userland anyway). 22:09:26 Riastradh: thanks for the clarification. :-) I should have noted that. 22:11:19 if the starting array index is your only issue with it, lua is doing okay 22:11:49 ok 22:12:01 well, not to start a lua conversation on #scheme 22:12:14 but I would be interested in using scheme as an extension language 22:12:29 just brainstorming a bit for a future project maybe. 22:12:31 :-) 22:13:03 rszeno [~rszeno@79.114.101.38] has joined #scheme 22:15:27 -!- pjb [~user@AMontsouris-651-1-192-178.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: restart] 22:16:06 walter [~walter@ip-64-134-101-130.public.wayport.net] has joined #scheme 22:17:14 pjb [~user@AMontsouris-651-1-192-178.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 22:20:01 jao [~jao@48.Red-88-17-131.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 22:20:04 -!- jao [~jao@48.Red-88-17-131.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 22:20:04 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 22:48:58 brendyn [brendyn@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fedf:65b4] has joined #scheme 22:50:31 -!- walter [~walter@ip-64-134-101-130.public.wayport.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:51:35 William [~William@108-85-16-151.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 22:51:59 -!- William is now known as Guest66764 23:01:18 -!- Guest66764 is now known as tertl3 23:05:52 ijp` [~user@host109-151-48-182.range109-151.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 23:07:29 Aune [~Arne@h-152-28.a163.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #scheme 23:08:13 -!- ijp [~user@host81-155-28-86.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:09:01 -!- ijp` is now known as ijp 23:14:54 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-184-136.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18:18 dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-61-245.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 23:20:04 walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:35:33 -!- agumonkey [~agu@8.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:47:42 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]