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It has plenty of mirrors, though. 00:19:08 -!- joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:22:15 -!- LeoNerd [~leo@fairy.dictatorshipcake.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22:17 -!- Triclops256 is now known as Triclops256|away 00:34:07 -!- em [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:36:16 em [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has joined #scheme 00:36:35 LeoNerd [~leo@fairy.dictatorshipcake.co.uk] has joined #scheme 00:40:58 -!- jrajav [~jrajav@71-82-133-188.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: phunq, sandwich store loop, WHAT NO UNIVERSE] 00:55:52 youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 00:56:57 Well that was weird... wireless card was acting up. Anyways, is "smart" or kind-of irrelevant to use Mit-Scheme for SICP? 00:58:41 You probably want to use Racket's SICP package instead. 00:58:47 -!- Riastrad1 is now known as Riastradh 00:59:10 Riastradh: Any solid reasons besides maybe more "modern"? 00:59:19 The SICP support in MIT Scheme has bitrotted, and I haven't taken the time to fix it (yet). 01:02:27 *youlysses* is a bit shocked in the lack of packaged Schemes in Fedora... 01:02:39 Fix it! It's free software, right? 01:03:47 jrajav [~jrajav@71-82-133-188.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #scheme 01:03:53 being free is the only barrier to entry 01:04:13 Riastradh: True. It's not like it's even a horrible pain to grab a tar directly from a site, too. :-P 01:04:55 Is two months a bit to enthusiastic to trudge through SICP, or? 01:06:06 over enthusiastic probably, but I don't know how much time you have available to you 01:07:04 ijp: Probably a good 2 or-so hours a day, minimum, I'm putting aside (hopefully...) 01:09:26 przl [~przlrkt@p54BF8339.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 01:14:04 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p54BF8339.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:15:52 -!- Triclops256|away is now known as Triclops256 01:32:13 b4283 [~b4283@60-249-196-111.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 01:33:42 adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:38:03 -!- youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Bedtime.] 01:48:49 -!- GOMADWarrior [~Regis@186.222.62.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:49:02 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 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I would like to be able choose a random function from a set and apply it. My first thought was to create a vector of symbols but I can't figure out how to apply a function from a symbol. 23:28:39 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 23:28:45 -!- huseby [~huseby@gateway/tor-sasl/huseby] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:30:09 Or alternately store a set of function in a vector 23:30:58 use a function that returns a random element/function from a given vector/list and call it? 23:31:26 Are you answering or asking for clarification of my question? 23:32:16 im wondering if you hav tried that 23:32:30 What is that? It sounds like nothing more than a restatement of what I asked. 23:32:36 -!- rins [~aaron@75-149-129-85-Connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:32:39 First, how would you create a vector or list of fuctions? 23:32:44 s/fuctions/functions/ 23:33:24 huseby [~huseby@gateway/tor-sasl/huseby] has joined #scheme 23:33:28 I suppose I could literally define them in the vector 23:36:06 -!- SeySayux [SeySayux@libsylph/developer/seysayux] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:36:09 would `(fn1 fn2 fn3) work? 23:36:53 SeySayux [SeySayux@libsylph/developer/seysayux] has joined #scheme 23:38:36 fn1 fn2 and fn3 would be quoted there, since you didn't explicitly escape them 23:39:13 rudybot_: (map (lambda (fun) (fn 0)) (list add1 sub1 zero? odd?)) 23:39:14 ijp: your sandbox is ready 23:39:14 ijp: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: fn in module: 'program 23:39:20 rudybot_: (map (lambda (fun) (fun 0)) (list add1 sub1 zero? odd?)) 23:39:21 ijp: ; Value: (1 -1 #t #f) 23:39:59 as simple as that 23:40:14 -!- cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.25.200] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:34 cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.25.200] has joined #scheme 23:41:01 you don't need to go from symbol->function when you can just have the function to begin with 23:41:01 Thanks 23:41:09 I was trying to use the literal form 23:41:29 oh, so list "stores" the variable and `(x y z) the symbol? 23:41:43 (list add1 sub1 zero? odd?) is a list of functions 23:41:48 '(add1 sub1 zero? odd?) is a list of symbols 23:41:58 `(,add1 ,sub1 ,zero? ,odd?) is a list of functions 23:42:24 rbarraud [~rbarraud@125-239-32-133.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 23:42:26 oh, nice, thanks 23:42:39 azkane: '(foo bar) is syntactic sugar for (list 'foo 'bar) 23:43:14 (well almost, since in the former case the whole list can be constant, whereas in the latter the list would be created afresh every time the form is executed) 23:46:45 rbarraud_ [~rbarraud@125-239-32-133.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 23:47:26 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 23:49:51 -!- rbarraud [~rbarraud@125-239-32-133.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:51:03 githogori [~githogori@c-76-103-82-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:51:59 -!- mark_weaver [~user@98.217.64.74] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:56:04 -!- Triclops256 is now known as Triclops256|away