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buffer&place you want to paste, and press `C-y' to paste 04:16:44 int0x80 : ok ? 04:17:06 following.... 04:17:37 if you want to mark whole buffer, do `C-x h' (and then proceed with `M-w' as above) 04:18:18 one thing. how can i open transcript buffer... 04:18:20 to see where the mark is, do `C-x C-x' -- it will swap mark and point (do it again to get back) 04:18:29 i mean i tried *trascript* but there are not result 04:18:57 pothos_ [~pothos@114-36-241-15.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 04:19:20 -!- clog [~nef@bespin.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:19:20 -!- SeanTAllen [uid4855@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bopvwehycorjparl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:19:20 -!- pothos [~pothos@114-36-241-15.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:19:20 -!- jrajav [~jrajav@66-188-176-243.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:19:20 -!- SeySayux [SeySayux@libsylph/developer/seysayux] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 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seconds] 22:24:15 yazdmich [~yazdmich@unaffiliated/yazdmich] has joined #scheme 22:25:35 im just coming to scheme after finishing a Turing (pascal-based) course at my highschool, is scheme a good choice? or should i look for another language to go with next? 22:27:48 sure, scheme is a fine choice 22:28:04 for syntax reference, here is my final project http://pastebin.com/zq3z7grP 22:28:25 though we are an admittedly biased lot 22:29:50 yazdmich: I recommend SICP . It blew my mind anyway (long ago) 22:30:44 im guessing this is a lesson plan for scheme? 22:31:27 It was the textbook used at MIT for around 30 years. Used at many other universities as well. 22:31:38 http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/adopt-list.html 22:31:41 ah 22:32:31 yazdmich: I recommend HTDP (htdp.org). 22:32:48 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p54BF96F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:32:49 i was pretty bummed when i found out my programming course used Turing instead of java, python, lisp, or even pascal 22:33:04 (pascal is used in the grade 12 course though) 22:33:23 IMO, SICP shows its age. HTDP is more modern. Especially the second edition (www.ccs.neu.edu/home/matthias/HtDP2e/). 22:33:44 im using guile 1.8 and emacs 22:33:45 Who still uses Turing? I thought Waterloo dropped it (in favor of HTDP) years ago. 22:33:54 *jao* thinks sicp is ageless 22:34:00 stamourv: most Ontario highschools 22:34:07 at least in Durham 22:34:11 -!- tupi [~user@139.82.89.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:34:31 and its not even with the shiny, new QT-based openturing 22:34:32 If you're going to use Guile, I highly recommend using 2.x. It's much nicer than 1.8. 22:34:48 francisl [~flavoie@199.84.164.114] has joined #scheme 22:35:04 didn't see any 2.x versions in my debian repo 22:35:11 Yes, SICP is older, but if you can get through it you'll have learned a lot more, IMO. 22:35:31 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 22:35:31 i think SICP only worked for me because i had already done a decent amount of programming in other languages and could see how much easier SICP's way of doing things was 22:36:09 for people who haven't done all that much programming, SICP may not be the best introduction 22:36:13 ah 22:36:22 mark_weaver: Sure, SICP covers more material, but IMO, HTDP+PLAI (or EOPL) covers the same topics, but in much more depth. 22:36:45 HTDP seems to be designed so that anyone can learn to program, which is a great thing, don't get me wrong. But HTDP would not have blown my mind at all, in fact I doubt I would have learned much from it at all. 22:37:06 mark_weaver: Agreed. It's an introductory textbook. 22:37:13 Have you had a look at PLAI? 22:37:13 (given that I was already an experienced C programmer at the time) 22:37:19 i love PLAI 22:37:24 It's great. 22:37:32 Shriram's online lectures are excellent, too. 22:37:41 No, I haven't, but I don't doubt that it's good. 22:38:06 I didn't know there were online lectures for it 22:38:19 I felt a little shortchanged by the gc section, but it's a pretty good book 22:38:30 ijp: I think Shriram put them online in the fall. 22:38:39 Also, IIRC, the GC section was updated recently. 22:38:45 s/updated/redone/ 22:38:51 (how one can be shortchanged when you pay $0, I leave to the reader) 22:39:04 stamourv: ah, I'll take alook 22:40:03 yazdmich: One thing that IME students really like about HTDP (especially the 2nd edition), is that a lot of the examples/exercises involve animations and games. 22:40:05 just looking at scheme syntax, it looks beautiful 22:40:33 IMO, if you simply learn how to program in Scheme without learning about the different programming styles enabled by Scheme's flexibility, you'll likely wonder why bother with Scheme. Scheme has disadvantages (unusual syntax, fewer available libraries, etc), and unless you also see its advantages (enabling very different styles of programming), you're missing the point. 22:40:51 At NEU, halfway into the semester, students program the "snake" game, with graphics, and all, as an assignment. 22:40:58 i think of scheme syntax as pragmatic rather than beautiful 22:41:09 compared to Turing 22:41:13 turbofail: Can't it be both? ;) 22:41:29 heh. maybe 22:41:56 at first, turing looked clean and simple, compared to Scheme, its clunky 22:42:21 then again ask most people, and my brain works like no other 22:42:32 (aspergers) 22:43:17 On a related note... I'm starting SICP again Monday. :-) 22:44:22 anyway, recently i was showing a co-worker the first version of the "find the number of ways to make change" example in SICP 22:44:49 and the code for that first version bothered me so much that i basically told her to ignore it and look at my version 22:45:09 yazdmich: the guile folks hang out on #guile, and I'd like to second stamourv's suggestion to upgrade to 2.0. It's vastly better than 1.8. 22:45:44 yazdmich: Well I'm assuming it works close to most non-neurotypical. I really haven't seen someone with any real high-functioning autism, that I've found myself thinking to different from. That being said, I don't know what that says about me, tbh. 22:46:03 mark_weaver: I forget, has 2.2 been released? 22:46:14 not yet 22:46:18 im on the upper end of high-functioning 22:46:18 *stamourv* doesn't follow Guile as closely as he should. 22:46:25 Latest is 2.0.7 right? 22:46:27 no, it probably won't be out for a while. even the guile devs mostly use 2.0 currently. 22:46:34 yes, 2.0.7 22:46:52 i guess i'll have to edit my sources file 22:47:01 *youlysses* was surprised that wheezy seemed to have 2.0.5 in the repo. :-) 22:47:06 yazdmich: do you use Debian? 22:47:11 yeah 22:47:13 Squeeze 22:47:20 youlysses: 2.0.5 is the common case, I think 22:47:43 2.x versions are nowhere to be found with apt-cache search guile 22:47:51 yazdmich: you'll have to upgrade to wheezy to get easy access to Guile 2.0. You can certainly get it running on squeeze, but you'll have to compile a few dependencies first. 22:48:07 ijp: Maybe on Debian based systems, but I haven't seen 2.x in-general in either Arch or Fedora based releases yet. :-P 22:48:33 yazdmich: Try `apt-get -t', if you want a Guile from a more recent Debian, without upgrading the whole OS. 22:48:39 ah 22:49:14 stamourv: I don't think it's that easy, because a newer libgc is needed. that's the main problem with getting it in backports. 22:49:19 (iirc) 22:49:23 t needs and argument 22:49:38 mark_weaver: Right. I remember having trouble getting Guile to see my libgc. 22:49:56 yazdmich: Yeah, give it `testing', or `unstable', or whichever version you want. 22:51:11 stamourv: I suspect it would pull in too many dependencies from wheezy. it's probably best to simply upgrade to wheezy, which is quite stable (I use it myself) 22:51:51 or just compile guile (and the needed dependencies) from source. 22:53:58 unless I'm mistaken, libgc *might* be the only dependency you need to compile from source on squeeze. 22:56:26 not sure if i want to compile anything on an atom 1.8 GHz netbook 22:56:59 *nod* 22:57:47 i guess im stuck with 1.8 22:58:09 emma [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has joined #scheme 22:59:09 -!- rins [~aaron@75-149-129-85-Connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:59:51 that's fine. 1.8 will be plenty good enough for now. 23:00:19 rudybot: 1.8 ought to be enough for anyone, right? 23:00:20 ijp: although if they allow z-machine interpreters, then they really ought to allow any interpreter 23:00:30 2.0 will be waiting for you when you upgrade to wheezy :) 23:00:48 now, for trig functions, does scheme default to radians or degrees? 23:00:58 radians, of course :) 23:01:17 i know turing defaults with degrees with degree functions suffixed with a d 23:01:21 in fact you can only get degrees by converting to radians first :) 23:01:53 never actually used trig in any of my programs 23:02:59 anyway, the nice thing about scheme is that if something is missing, it's usually super easy to add it. even if it's something that would have to be added to the core of another language. 23:03:27 missing from what? your program? the enironment? 23:03:36 environment* 23:03:50 if there's a language feature that you wish was there, it's usually easy to add it. 23:04:33 ah 23:04:35 more than any other language I know of, you can pretty much decide how you *wish* you could write your program, and then add the needed features to make that possible. 23:04:51 Turing is pretty much hardcoded 23:06:00 there is someone making an open-source version with a ground-up compiler, but its missing certain features (importing custom modules/classes/etc for example) 23:11:27 yazdmich: btw, you can watch the MIT video lectures for SICP here: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.001/abelson-sussman-lectures/ 23:11:59 yazdmich: and the entire textbook is available online here: http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/ 23:12:11 im using the second one linked 23:12:20 htdp 23:12:29 okay 23:14:28 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@91-157-48-10.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:16:25 htdp does not teach standard scheme though. if you use that book, you'll be happiest with Racket. 23:16:54 oh 23:16:56 which is diverging enough from standard scheme that they renamed it. 23:22:56 -!- Triclops256 is now known as Triclops256|away 23:25:20 -!- emma is now known as em 23:27:18 in fact it would be hard to get through that book with anything other than Racket. http://racket-lang.org/ 23:27:39 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:28:20 Racket is an excellent system though, and well suited for learning. 23:31:56 evoli [~Adium@207.61.57.13] has joined #scheme 23:34:15 -!- stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-020-044.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:36:12 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:40:46 groovy2shoes [~cory@unaffiliated/groovebot] has joined #scheme 23:43:03 -!- francisl [~flavoie@199.84.164.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:43:20 -!- groovy2shoes [~cory@unaffiliated/groovebot] has quit [Client Quit] 23:52:09 sirdancealot7 [~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #scheme 23:54:22 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 23:58:14 peterhil [~peterhil@91-157-48-10.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 23:58:18 -!- mark_weaver [~user@TURNTABLE.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]