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06:15:19 anyone here 06:19:31 mark_weaver [~user@209-6-91-212.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 06:20:23 int0x80: the problem is in the subexpressions (-1 +a) and (1 + b) 06:20:56 in Scheme, the first item in a parenthesized expression must evaluate to a procedure (or macro or special form) 06:21:20 in this case, you are trying to apply -1 and 1 as procedures, which they are not. 06:22:08 that's what it means by "The object 1 is not applicable". 06:22:32 "applicable" means something that can be applied to arguments, i.e. used as a procedure. 06:23:32 Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 06:24:26 thaks man 06:25:25 you're welcome! 06:26:39 also beware that in Scheme '+a' is a distinct identifier from 'a', just like 'ka' is distinct from 'a'. 06:27:24 it does _not_ mean to apply the '+' operator to 'a', as would be the case in more traditional languages. 06:29:01 -!- mark_weaver [~user@209-6-91-212.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 06:29:55 so i changed (-1 +a) with (- 1 +a) 06:30:14 (- 1 (+ a)) 06:30:32 ok 06:31:10 though the plus call is kinda redundant as written 06:31:37 ccorn [~ccorn@i52104.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #scheme 06:31:42 yaa i know 06:32:03 but i am getting maximum recursion depth error 06:32:16 + (- 1 (+a)) ( + 1 b))) 06:33:34 please tell me there how add 1 in any number i mean beside (+ 1 a) 06:34:11 could anyone correct my code i pasted in pastbin 06:34:25 http://pastebin.com/CbetyQtD 06:36:24 rmathews_ [~roshan@122.165.89.11] has joined #scheme 06:37:32 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@ip-37-188-236-148.eurotel.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:37:39 First put it all in prefix notation as best you can 06:37:53 -!- rmathews [~roshan@122.165.89.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:37:53 -!- rmathews_ is now known as rmathews 06:38:08 yacks [~yacks@180.151.36.169] has joined #scheme 06:38:19 i did 06:38:52 i know (+ 1 b) causin me problem 06:38:57 -!- Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:39:05 (1 + b) is wrong 06:39:21 -!- rmathews [~roshan@122.165.89.11] has quit [Client Quit] 06:39:49 and when calling them every + - should be the first item in a list 06:39:52 juxovec [~juxovec@ip-37-188-236-148.eurotel.cz] has joined #scheme 06:40:44 (+ (- 1 a) ( + 1 b)) i changed last line 06:41:13 Is this who thing supposed to define a function? 06:41:17 *whole 06:41:27 there is any++ like oprator in scheme 06:41:59 i am overloading + for two number 06:42:09 in terms of c++ 06:42:35 I'm not a scheme person but that doesn't seem legal... 06:43:16 i am following mit course of scheme 06:43:53 -!- adu [~ajr@96.241.27.134] has quit [Quit: adu] 06:46:26 Lisps often have multimethods/multiple dispatch but it wouldn't work this way. This would replace + if it was/is legal 06:47:11 http://pastebin.com/XmYFUrQe 06:47:42 could you give me what is error in if statement 06:47:51 i think it is write 06:48:08 whan i am loading it in scheme interpreter it is saying error in if block 06:48:25 So what you did is legal, and does replace + for all cases. that's why you were exceeding the maximum recurssion depth. 06:49:32 i am thinking the same way...but do you know any way i can increment value 06:49:40 like ++ operator in other language 06:50:41 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@ip-37-188-236-148.eurotel.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:51:47 int0x80: guile has unique extensions 1+ and 1- so you can do (1+ 1) returns 2 06:52:13 ok that's what was looking 06:53:04 but it's not an ++ equivelant since ++ has side effects 06:53:15 how's that 06:53:17 ?? 06:53:41 ++ changes the variable of a variable at a memory location 06:54:13 yaa that way... 06:54:28 int0x80: you need a macro to do ++ 06:55:54 i loaded my file in scheme interpreter,but when i am trying to do something like (+ 2 3) 06:56:03 it is not giving me anything 06:57:56 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:01:03 snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 07:01:04 If it's the file where you replace + it will eventually consume all stack space. 07:01:25 What is it you want it to do? 07:03:09 it is implementing same + algorithm ,but i don't know what scheme use,i am doing it scheme way,mean recursion 07:03:15 it is good example of recursion 07:03:26 implementing with recursion 07:04:47 As written it's gonna recurse infinitely 07:05:01 Just dont name your new function + 07:05:22 i gave base case, when (= a 0) 07:05:25 Because it /is/ replacing + for /all/ cases 07:05:27 ( + 1 b) 07:05:32 is in your function 07:06:07 give it a different name 07:07:17 even if i changed it name it is still not working 07:07:50 Is it still hanging? 07:09:23 i got it... 07:09:46 problem was in last line...it is now working with + also 07:09:57 so we can overload + operator 07:10:09 no, you are /replacing/ + 07:10:22 THere is a huge difference there. 07:10:55 http://pastebin.com/EAFXEeV5 07:10:59 this is correct code 07:11:21 ok...so there is no overloading in scheme 07:12:34 Most lisps have some type of available multimethod/multiple-dispatch system though that beats overloading for power though. 07:13:26 -!- capisce [~srodal@cm-84.215.35.251.getinternet.no] has quit [Changing host] 07:13:26 capisce [~srodal@oftn/member/capisce] has joined #scheme 07:16:01 juxovec [~juxovec@ip-37-188-236-148.eurotel.cz] has joined #scheme 07:17:37 -!- safekeeping_ [~safekeepi@c-68-36-167-104.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:17:59 -!- ManAmongHippos [~ManAmongH@68-113-107-107.static.leds.al.charter.com] has quit [Quit: ManAmongHippos] 07:18:46 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@i52104.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 07:25:23 http://pastebin.com/J6ZeFKHC 07:35:51 mmc1 [~michal@178-85-64-28.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 07:41:32 hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has joined #scheme 07:41:32 -!- hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has quit [Changing host] 07:41:32 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 07:42:06 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:45:57 msmith0957 [~Mike@c-76-124-107-175.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:48:09 hey, getting 'ill formed special form' with this: http://paste.lisp.org/display/134877 07:48:19 im sure its something obvious.. just not obvious to me 07:48:43 msmith0957: (let ((a 3)) ... 07:49:07 heh, thanks 07:49:14 let has internal begin btw, so no need to have that begin there 07:49:29 ok, yeah i was thinking it wasnt necesary 07:52:37 oh and.. i'm runing mit-scheme through putty. is there a keybind for previous/next entered commands ? 07:52:47 -!- mmc1 [~michal@178-85-64-28.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:57:46 or even how to use keys like home/end within the prompt. always spits out some junk when trying those 07:58:13 msmith0957: if there isn't, you could try rlwrap. Yeah, that sounds like there is no realine support, so rlwrap is then an option. 07:58:51 I think you just add rlwrap in front of however you start mit 07:59:15 or you could try using edwin, the built-in editor 07:59:16 hm, yeah il have to look into it 07:59:59 yeah i havent tried edwin yet.. i don't know my emacs bindings and a little reluctant to learn at 3am 08:04:28 civodul [~user@193.50.110.227] has joined #scheme 08:08:07 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:08:33 hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has joined #scheme 08:08:33 -!- hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has quit [Changing host] 08:08:33 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 08:09:05 -!- ASau [~user@46.115.88.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:11:16 if only edwin supported unicode and colours :( 08:11:39 i'd suggest emacs and slime/swank for mit/gnu scheme.. works great! 08:12:23 wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has joined 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Triclops256|away 15:04:14 -!- bniels [~niels@p4FD6F48D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 15:06:11 juxovec [~juxovec@ip-37-188-236-148.eurotel.cz] has joined #scheme 15:06:50 -!- scoofy [~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:08:34 adu [~ajr@96.241.27.134] has joined #scheme 15:16:06 pinkiesOut [~user@140.254.97.205] has joined #scheme 15:20:52 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@ip-37-188-236-148.eurotel.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:21:13 I have a list of words and a list of numbers representing word frequency for each word. The list (map cons words frequency) are ordered pairs. I would like to sort both lists into descending order based on the numerical values in the frequency lists. It's trivial to sort either list individually, but they must be sorted together so that the ordered pairs (map cons words frequency) produces the same, albeit sorted, pairs after everything 15:21:13 is complete. Any suggestions on how this might be accomplished? Example: I want the two lists '("guys" "hey" "you") and '(1 3 2) to be sorted together into the two lists '("hey" "you" guys") '(3 2 1) 15:22:33 -!- adu [~ajr@96.241.27.134] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:22:50 adu [~ajr@96.241.27.134] has joined #scheme 15:22:52 pinkiesOut: combine the lists first and then sort by each pair's cdr 15:24:19 juxovec [~juxovec@ip-37-188-236-148.eurotel.cz] has joined #scheme 15:24:20 This was the obvious solution in my head, but I'm missing some implementational cleverness to make it happen 15:24:45 pinkiesOut: how does your sorting function work? 15:24:58 pinkiesOut: it should allow you to pass in a comparator function 15:26:36 I'm using chicken scheme (if that matters). I'm using the procedure (sort list LESS?), where less is a lambda with two parameters and a comparison. I typically use (sort mylist (lambda (x y) (> x y))) to get a list in descending order 15:27:28 ok 15:27:42 note that that's the same as just saying (sort mylist >) 15:28:00 anyhow, x and y are the pairs 15:28:07 you can dispatch on the type of list 15:29:00 or even better just sort the numbers? 15:30:03 #;3> (sort (map cons '("guys" "hey" "you") '(3 2 1)) (lambda (a b) (> (cdr a) (cdr b)))) 15:30:06 (("guys" . 3) ("hey" . 2) ("you" . 1)) 15:30:58 Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 15:32:59 juxovec_ [~juxovec@ip-37-188-232-219.eurotel.cz] has joined #scheme 15:33:15 C-Keen: that's perfect-- thanks! I've been dancing around that solution for a while now. I was just missing the (cdr a) (cdr b). It's so clear in hindsight, as these things usually are. Thanks! 15:33:30 yw! 15:33:43 DerGuteMoritz: thanks as well! 15:33:54 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@ip-37-188-236-148.eurotel.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:33:57 right, that's what I meant :-) 15:34:57 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-165-20.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:20 hash_table [~quassel@128.249.96.123] has joined #scheme 15:39:15 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-165-20.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 15:40:32 -!- pinkiesOut [~user@140.254.97.205] has left #scheme 15:43:01 evoli [~Adium@173-228-28-89.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 15:43:20 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:46:01 hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has joined #scheme 15:46:01 -!- hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has quit [Changing host] 15:46:01 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 15:48:03 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Client Quit] 15:48:18 hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has joined 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