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Impelmentations can confound expansion and evaluation? 02:55:09 Heh, `emergency exit'. 02:55:52 If I run (emergency-exit), will the alarm sound? 02:56:15 -!- phao [phao@177.160.97.151] has left #scheme 02:59:02 Riastradh: Since some existing implementations do confound expansion and evaluation, we make leave for this. 03:00:04 Only if you run (emergency-exit #\alarm). 03:00:29 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 03:04:20 What existing implementations do, and why does anyone care about anything so broken? 03:05:37 TinyScheme, and a slightly loose wording in one place of the standard to give nod to it doesn't hurt anyone. 03:06:34 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.27.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:08:26 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.116.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:10:10 madmuppet [~user@122-62-124-247.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 03:10:34 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:13:57 I have written a square root procedure that returns the real and imaginary numbers .. I want to be able to represent the real and imaginary numbers the same way that guile does ie real+imaginaryi with the i at the end. how would I do that? 03:14:21 my work so far is at http://pastebin.com/u6sBm5TT 03:14:48 langmart` [~user@host-68-169-154-130.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 03:16:59 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-154-130.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:20:20 rudybot: eval (make-rectangular 123 456) 03:20:20 Riastradh: your sandbox is ready 03:20:21 Riastradh: ; Value: 123+456i 03:20:29 rudybot: eval (real-part 123+456i) 03:20:30 Riastradh: ; Value: 123 03:20:31 rudybot: eval (imag-part 123+456i) 03:20:32 Riastradh: ; Value: 456 03:21:27 Riastradh:thanks 03:22:00 going to give that a go 03:33:32 Riastradh:thanks again works fine 03:50:10 Enoria [~Enoria@jte.kidradd.org] has joined #scheme 04:03:59 ghast [~user@host218.190-138-30.telecom.net.ar] has joined #scheme 04:06:50 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit 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DONATE YOURS. CALL 1-900-BRAINBANK.] 18:31:03 phao [phao@177.115.99.250] has joined #scheme 18:34:41 spiderweb [~lcc@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 18:34:54 Drakeson [~user@unaffiliated/drakeson] has joined #scheme 18:36:06 Is there a dialect of scheme that compiles lightly to javascript (i.e., one that is very close to javascript)? 18:36:37 probably about a 100 18:36:54 Whalesong is pretty mature. 18:36:56 https://github.com/dyoo/whalesong 18:36:58 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 18:37:47 How close is racket to javascript, semantically? 18:38:15 probably not that far, really 18:38:23 closer than, say C++ is to either 18:38:36 They're both higher-order dynamic languages. 18:39:15 offby1: the distances you are talking sound astronomic. C++ is very far from javascript. 18:39:25 I am looking for something that requires about the lightest/smallest/simplest possible scheme->javascript 18:39:42 even if the source "scheme" is not very standard 18:40:43 couldn't tell ya. 18:41:01 Drakeson: What are you trying to do? 18:41:04 In other words, which non-standard scheme you would suggest that is very close to javascript. (by close I mean nearly identical in semantics)? 18:41:09 anecdotally, I hear that the fella who invented javascript originally wanted either to use Scheme, or for his new language to be a Scheme. 18:41:50 I don't there there are any that are almost identical. 18:42:17 javascript used to have a scheme-like syntax. He (brendan eich) changed it to algol syntax pretty much at the last minute. 18:42:25 Drakeson: so, you want javascript, in sexps 18:42:32 rather than a javascripty scheme 18:42:41 Pretty much, unless that is not possible. 18:43:06 which is kind of an odd request, there may be projects that do this 18:43:25 I think foof's fmt can output javascript 18:43:29 I can live with some of the bullshit removed in favor of a bit more scheme, but I don't want the person who reads generated javascript code be able to tell easily. 18:44:06 I found this: http://planet.plt-scheme.org/package-source/dherman/javascript.plt/9/0/planet-docs/javascript/pjs.html 18:44:07 http://tinyurl.com/ahldq2k 18:44:33 http://www.kantz.com/jason/programs/jsgen/ 18:45:27 stamourv: thanks, both look interesting. 18:45:51 First is by Mozilla's Dave Herman, probably a good place to start. 18:46:09 I liked the first one better ;) 18:47:29 Or you could use sweet.js and use macros to make JS Scheme-like. ;) 18:48:00 asumu: I cannot let them know I am not typing javascript! 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