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seconds] 06:11:00 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@91-157-48-10.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:16:03 adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:18:04 gavino, no. Nobody is alive. 06:18:54 hey 06:19:08 hows the schemeing? 06:20:47 jaaso [~jaaso@178.239.26.136] has joined #scheme 06:22:24 Hi gavino 06:22:48 hello 06:23:07 How are you? 06:23:36 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:25:11 adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:25:46 sad 06:25:59 election went opposite of my wishes 06:26:46 so kil, what are you doing with scheme lately? 06:30:33 phax_ [~phax@4.71.46.62] has joined #scheme 06:33:47 -!- jaaso [~jaaso@178.239.26.136] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:37:05 ? 06:38:06 gavino, I don't do much with scheme these days 06:38:06 I've been thinking about working through some of SICM 06:38:18 peterhil [~peterhil@91-157-48-10.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 06:38:29 why? 06:39:10 Pedagogical curiosity 06:39:25 sicm? what is that? 06:39:32 http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/gjs/6946/sicm-html/ 06:40:04 it's a book on classical mechanics that uses scheme for the purpose of expressing rigorously concepts and relationships 06:40:39 jaaso [~jaaso@178.239.26.136] has joined #scheme 06:40:40 to what end? 06:40:49 what will that book help you implement? 06:41:06 nothing 06:41:23 looks interesting and intense 06:42:01 does it relate at all to termite scheme? 06:42:28 I doubt it 06:43:09 so how do you intend to make money? programming java? 06:43:16 I'm just curious about it 06:43:30 I teach / do research 06:43:40 -!- ijp [~user@host86-169-103-73.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: The garbage collector got me] 06:45:09 -!- phax_ [~phax@4.71.46.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:45:31 ah 06:45:34 government paid? 06:47:48 Inst [~SouthOfTh@unaffiliated/inst] has joined #scheme 06:47:58 -!- Inst [~SouthOfTh@unaffiliated/inst] has left #scheme 06:51:36 gavino, university 06:51:39 i'm a graduate student 06:53:09 does your school use scheme in classes? 06:54:36 -!- jaaso [~jaaso@178.239.26.136] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:54:40 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 06:54:57 Still can't built guile with mingw. 06:54:58 jaaso [~jaaso@178.239.26.136] has joined #scheme 06:56:36 NeedMoreDesu: I saw you ask earlier whether --with-libunistring-prefix=... was enough, and the answer is probably no. 06:57:07 Well I added to path, that ./configured. 06:57:38 Don't compile on threads 06:57:38 I know nothing about Windows, but on other systems that only takes care of compilation. At runtime the OS still has to be configured in some other way to find the relevant shared libraries. 06:58:19 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:58:20 On unix-like systems, it can be done with the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable. 06:59:23 NeedMoreDesu: or are you having a different problem now than before? 06:59:47 (before I saw you link to an screenshot showing a failure to load the libunistring dll) 07:00:26 Yep, it's different now. I'm pretty stupid not to log them, though. :/ 07:01:34 what's the error now? 07:04:58 with 2.0.4(lol i'm starting to try different versions, but afaik 2.0.6 is the same) http://www.everfall.com/paste/id.php?kays3dts6xea 07:06:28 Also, tried dev master branch, but got totally new bug, which, I think, was added in one of the latest patches. 07:06:45 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-203-9.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:07:07 NeedMoreDesu: would you mind moving this conversation to #guile? 07:07:10 id install virtualbox, then bsd, then use guile all u want 07:07:11 :) 07:07:47 Mm, sure, why not? 07:08:26 Well, the point is to make win32+guile. 07:08:48 #scheme is not the proper venue for this discussion. 07:09:06 -!- gavino [d1069623@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.6.150.35] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:13:18 gavino you wanted Romney to win? hahaha 07:13:29 ah he's gone :( 07:14:18 he was probably just saying that to get us riled up. 07:14:21 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:15:00 I tried to tell kilimanjaro (in private chat) not to feed the troll, but he didn't listen. 07:18:58 is he really a troll though? 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(and thus I guess the rest of ! functions, i.e. any mutation). This still wouldn't make Scheme purely functional though, would it ? I imagine variables would still exist (i.e. the language still based on the lambda calculus, and not combinatory logic), as well as side-effects other than mutation (IO), and built-in sequencing and continuations (not 20:36:39 through monads). 20:37:30 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:37:52 Or would we be moving towards being an eager-evaluated, latent typed Haskell written in s-expressions ? 20:38:25 (Perhaps that wouldn't be anything "Haskell" anymore, since the type system is so central to it, but I know no better analogy.) 20:39:42 -!- hiroaki [~hiroaki@p5B04BF0A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:40:11 -!- phao [phao@187.1.219.155] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40:37 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:40:57 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:42:00 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-173-30.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42:19 taylanub: Racket has had immutable pairs for some time already 20:42:30 getting rid of them is not sci-fi 20:42:36 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 20:42:43 -!- carleastlund [~cce@gotham.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Quit: carleastlund] 20:42:49 Moving them to a separate module is interesting 20:42:59 It means if the program never imports the module, the runtime can know there are no mutations 20:43:04 -!- stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:43:30 I was thinking if perhaps the abomination of mutation somehow implies a move towards combinatory logic, but I guess that's not the case since variables are still useful without mutation ? 20:44:04 yes 20:50:19 taylanub: binding is pretty fundamental, yes, but it doesn't really preclude functional programming. 20:50:26 Unless you're going to (define fp combinatory-logic) 20:51:08 Does built-in/implicit sequencing (don't know if my phrase makes sense) preclude FP ? 20:51:25 Well, it implies side-effects, so I guess yes. 20:52:00 elaborate on what you mean by "built-in/implicit sequencing" ? 20:52:28 Sequential execution without the use of something like Haskell monads. 20:53:06 Since in pure FP you just call a stack of functions and eventually get the result, a sequence of function-calls doesn't really make sense .. 20:53:19 (It would be just two separate, individual computations.) 20:53:36 evaluation order in SML is fully specified/sequenced. but it's easy to write useful programs not employing mutable things 20:54:05 hiroaki [~hiroaki@77-20-78-82-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 20:54:36 Is SML purely functional ? 20:54:38 iow, if you call `(f x) (g y)', then first `f' will be called, then `g', and then the result function of the `f' call 20:55:27 taylanub : no, it's like Scheme in that one is encouraged to use immutable stuff, but there's mutable stuff if you want/need it 20:55:32 You can write sequencing in the lambda calculus. a; b -> (lambda (x) b) a 20:55:54 (though unlike Scheme, you don't get a `set!' on every variable. instead you have to make an explicit mutable box) 20:55:58 (note: call-by-value lambda calculus) 20:56:46 ski: But if it were pure, specifying eval order would be senseless, no ? 20:57:27 asumu: That's .. interesting. 20:58:35 And it twists my mind. :P 20:59:15 taylanub : with s/senseless/useless/ .. perhaps 20:59:41 specifying evaluation order could be useful for stuff like TCMC 21:00:08 TCMC ? 21:00:17 Taill-Call Modulo Cons(tructor) 21:01:12 bjz [~brendanza@CPE-123-211-77-67.lnse4.cha.bigpond.net.au] has joined #scheme 21:01:34 it's when you want to return some kind of newly allocated node, with some component values 21:01:53 but instead of first computing the component values, and allocating (and initializing) the new node last 21:02:14 Hrm, I think I could rationalize asumu's expression: a and b are, assuming no state, unrelated individual computations, and we're just evaluating them such that one takes the value of the other (thus must "wait") but discards the result. I'd dismiss that as a "trick." :P 21:02:16 phao [phao@187.1.219.155] has joined #scheme 21:02:21 you instead allocate the new node first, and initialize the components afterwards 21:02:37 doing this can get you tail-recursion where you wouldn't have it otherwise 21:02:56 in Prolog and Mercury, this is done all the time 21:03:03 (and Mercury is pure) 21:06:04 I see; specifying evaluation order can give the programmer a guarantee about the size requirements of a certain algorithm, at the cost of prohibiting parallel execution of the relevant forms. 21:06:47 That's interesting, I thought evaluation order was entirely irrelevant at the absence of side-effects. 21:07:13 well, obviously it can affect termination properties 21:07:30 though some count nontermination as a side-effect :) 21:07:57 -!- masm [~masm@bl16-219-40.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:08:24 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9] 21:10:17 (btw, i'm not sure about the "prohibiting parallel execution" part) 21:11:00 (though i suppose you'd possibly need some kind of future to communicate the value of the component) 21:11:27 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:11:38 adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:11:55 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:44 -!- superjudge [~mjl@c83-250-198-227.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:17:14 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 21:18:59 mjonsson [~mjonsson@38.109.95.133] has joined #scheme 21:22:03 -!- phao [phao@187.1.219.155] has quit [Quit: Not Here] 21:22:30 masm [~masm@bl16-219-40.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 21:23:36 sambio [~sambio@190.57.227.109] has joined #scheme 21:23:52 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-203-9.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25:00 -!- untrusted [~user@stgt-5f718439.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35:39 carleastlund [~cce@209-6-40-238.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 21:35:46 -!- carleastlund [~cce@209-6-40-238.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Client Quit] 21:37:46 -!- `fogus|lunch [~fogus@burke-matrex.d-a-s.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:38:06 Onionnion|Eee [~ryan@adsl-68-254-165-14.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #scheme 21:39:06 -!- masm [~masm@bl16-219-40.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:39:59 -!- DT`` [~ea@87.18.9.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:45:45 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-84-44-178-157.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:46:24 -!- Zuchto [~zuchto@li305-238.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:47:52 Zuchto [~zuchto@li305-238.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 21:48:10 snoopythedog [~user@95.149.8.210] has joined #scheme 21:52:26 nassepossu [topik@kapsi.fi] has joined #scheme 21:53:14 REAL expected (< '(5) '(6)) - is this related to somekind of typing error? 21:55:08 nassepossu: (< 5 6) will work. 21:55:37 what you are trying to do there is use < to compare two *lists* of numbers. and < expects only real numbers. 21:55:57 yeah, but the function that returns those '(5) and '(6) only returns them in cases i can't reproduce by calling it by hand :D 21:57:04 sounds like a good time to trace the procedure that's returning those lists. 21:58:31 oh, yeah 21:59:22 now how do you get the last member of a list, (car) doesn't seem to like these lists? 22:00:02 SRFI-1 provides a 'last' procedure to do that. 22:00:24 'car' returns the first element of a list. 22:00:52 ah, my bad, i meant the member of the list whose length is 1 22:01:08 'car' then :) 22:01:10 but actually i just noticed the bug is not where i thought it is 22:01:12 yeah 22:04:24 snoopyth` [~user@95.149.8.210] has joined #scheme 22:05:19 youlysse` [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 22:05:29 sonstwo [~garland@unaffiliated/ffs] has joined #scheme 22:06:32 hiroaki__ [~hiroaki@77-20-78-82-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 22:08:12 -!- youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:12 -!- hiroaki [~hiroaki@77-20-78-82-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:08:12 -!- ffs [~garland@unaffiliated/ffs] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:08:12 -!- snoopythedog [~user@95.149.8.210] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16:03 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 22:16:24 -!- nassepossu [topik@kapsi.fi] has left #scheme 22:21:12 masm [~masm@bl16-219-40.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 22:24:39 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@37-144-190-34.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:26:17 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:28:08 -!- Onionnion|Eee [~ryan@adsl-68-254-165-14.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:29:33 -!- dzhus [~dzhus@95-31-27-234.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:29:49 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:31:43 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 22:32:32 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:38:42 cdidd [~cdidd@95-28-139-109.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 22:44:54 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:47:23 -!- `youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Early to bed, early to rise, you'll probally end up dead at some] 22:52:06 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 22:53:21 -!- tupi [~david@139.82.89.157] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:56:18 SlitazMint [~ivar@189.38.208.184] has joined #scheme 22:59:20 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Quit: What happened to Systems A through E?] 23:00:00 -!- eli [~eli@racket/eli] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:00:41 -!- gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Quit: sleep] 23:00:49 eli [~eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 23:00:49 -!- eli [~eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Changing host] 23:00:49 eli [~eli@racket/eli] has joined #scheme 23:01:14 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-28-139-109.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:07:32 fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-203-9.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #scheme 23:10:32 kvda [~kvda@202.58.240.18] has joined #scheme 23:15:49 cdidd [~cdidd@176.14.110.26] has joined #scheme 23:25:50 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 23:29:55 -!- civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:40:48 -!- bjz [~brendanza@CPE-123-211-77-67.lnse4.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:43:23 ouack [~nineteen9@24.39.127.3] has joined #scheme 23:44:21 Me Mac Lion. What's the best thing to use for SICP? 23:45:38 -!- huseby [~huseby@home.husebyhome.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:47:51 -!- add^_ [~add^_@m37-3-114-81.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 23:48:46 ouack: I recommend Racket and http://www.neilvandyke.org/racket-sicp/ 23:49:28 -!- ijp [~user@host86-171-225-206.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: The garbage collector got me] 23:55:13 "NOTE: This package is looking for a volunteer to take over development. The most important need is for someone to work through SICP and fix anything that would be a problem. The second need is to incorporate Soegaards code into this package, so that we can avoid confusing install-time error messages. " 23:55:21 ... 23:55:27 Any other recommendations? 23:56:34 Well, the package works. It's just not actively developed. 23:59:02 -!- erann [~erann@39.Red-79-154-72.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:59:07 erann [~erann@117.Red-79-146-126.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme