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unix. 06:20:13 githogori [~githogori@c-50-131-15-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:20:23 Is this possible? 06:20:54 I want to somehow keep blobs on disk and have only th logic reside in the scheme image. 06:25:02 -!- Henry_George [d1069623@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.6.150.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:30:39 -!- jewel [~jewel@105.237.24.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:30:59 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:36:31 -!- FireFly [~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly] has quit [Excess Flood] 06:36:55 FireFly [~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #scheme 06:36:55 -!- FireFly [~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Changing host] 06:36:55 FireFly [~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly] has joined #scheme 06:37:14 levi` [~user@c-174-52-219-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:38:25 -!- levi [~user@c-174-52-219-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:39:31 bhrgunatha 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11:55:12 delete-file: cannot delete file 11:55:13 path: /usr/bin/sake 11:55:13 system error: Permission denied; errno=13 11:55:13 11:55:18 wtf is that? 11:55:30 also: 11:55:30 WARNING: collected information for key multiple times: '(index-entry (mod-path "(planet schematics/sake)")); values: SIGSEGV MAPERR si_code 1 fault on addr 0x84c3f8cc 11:55:30 zsh: abort ./freenode-main.rkt 11:55:33 11:56:35 tuubow [~adityavit@117.205.110.74] has joined #scheme 11:57:04 -!- adiii [~adityavit@117.205.102.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:57:31 offby1: ping ;) 11:58:55 -!- niels1 [~niels@p4FD6DBB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04:40 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.178.216.22] has quit [Quit: MichaelRaskin] 12:08:49 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-187-141.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 12:10:23 gnomon, does the comment system you put together for my blag still work? I forgot where it is. It's not a `disqus' thing, right? 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(http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/local.html) 14:57:11 (local [definition ...] body ...) == (let () definition ... body ...), more or less 14:58:03 within a lambda though, the let would be superfluous 14:59:30 http://docs.racket-lang.org/r6rs-std/r6rs-Z-H-14.html#node_sec_11.2 15:00:10 you can also use let/let*/letrec/letrec* 15:05:14 -!- peterhil` [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:09:54 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 15:10:58 peterhil` [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has joined #scheme 15:11:26 I tried this: http://paste.lisp.org/display/133504 (first one is an example in Racket, second one is my attempt to do it in standard Scheme). When I do this, I get the error "Can't bind name in null syntactic environment: pi #[reserved-name-item 18]" 15:12:29 SeySayux: the error is horrible, but you don't need the additional parentheses around the definitions 15:12:38 also, you don't need that let () in a lambda 15:12:43 -!- jewel [~jewel@105.237.24.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:13:25 SeySayux: there's no reason to use local in Racket there either. 15:13:28 so, the correct version would be (define circle-surface (lambda (r) (define pi 3.1415) (* pi r r))) 15:14:05 asumu: that is also true 15:15:29 Okay, I'm just following what my course material says, it's not like these university lecturers that teach Scheme actually know how to program in Scheme. (no sarcasm, by the way) 15:17:00 SeySayux: the reason to use local in (some) courses is because they use Racket's teaching languages. 15:17:14 Which, IIRC, don't allow local definitions everywhere because it can cause unexpected errors for beginners. 15:18:05 Ow, okay. 15:19:08 I couldn't get Racket to run here, so I used mit-scheme instead for the course, and up until now I could do all of the exercises normally. 15:19:57 So basically if I'm going to use Scheme, I can just skip the local and put my defines directly into the lambda? 15:20:28 yes 15:20:51 just remember you can't mix them with non-definitions 15:21:22 so no (lambda () (define foo ...) (set! baz ...) (define quux ...) zot) 15:22:10 Okay, thanks! 15:22:16 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:36:10 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-170-170.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 15:40:04 -!- dropster [~Kim@port284.ds1-oebr.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #scheme 15:40:34 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD604D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 15:46:53 Gmind [~Deulamco@113.190.232.180] has joined #scheme 15:50:17 -!- Gmind1 [~Deulamco@113.190.232.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:59:31 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-170-170.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:05:35 githogori [~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 16:06:45 -!- pavelpenev [~quassel@85-130-11-8.2073813645.shumen.cablebg.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:07:03 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 16:08:01 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-194-179.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 16:12:11 -!- confab [~confab@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:14:04 -!- Stanislaw [~quassel@124-148-119-99.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:12 -!- ASau is now known as P6MK 16:23:24 -!- P6MK is now known as ASau 16:42:09 -!- pyro- [~pyro@chopstick.dcollins.info] has quit [Changing host] 16:42:09 pyro- [~pyro@unaffiliated/purplepanda] has joined #scheme 16:46:59 Gmind1 [~Deulamco@113.190.232.180] has joined #scheme 16:51:04 -!- Gmind [~Deulamco@113.190.232.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:55:17 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:57:32 crundar [~user@140-182-195-195.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #scheme 17:00:36 -!- crundar [~user@140-182-195-195.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #scheme 17:02:29 -!- b4283 [~b4283@1-172-81-143.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:04:41 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 17:10:36 is that "let" form just replace the binding into the body or it actually bind value to a local variable ? 17:11:13 ( let ( (x 1) (y 2) ) ( + x y ) ) => ( + 1 2 ) 17:11:52 It creates a local variable 17:11:53 local variable 17:12:03 (let ((x 1)) (set! x 2) x) => 2 17:18:10 * what if it just replace ? would there be conflict ? 17:18:59 and is that "let" form primitive ? 17:21:13 Gmind1: let can be thought of as equivalent to an immediate application of a lambda 17:21:17 Gmind1: you may think of (let ((x 1)) ...) as equivalent to: ((lambda (x) ...) 1) 17:21:44 Gmind1: if it just substituted, you may get some strange results when you deal with side effects 17:21:46 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:22:37 can you expand "let" in the idea of lambda ? 17:22:52 e.g. (let ((x (begin (display "foo") 3))) (+ x x)), displays foo once, then adds 3 to 3 17:23:12 if let substituted, it would instead be equivalent to (+ (begin (display "foo") 3) (begin (display "foo") 3)), which would display foo twice 17:24:55 in the absence of side effects, the two models produce the same answer 17:25:28 the operation "+" get those X as what ? 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[~pothos@114-36-231-47.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 21:33:17 uselpa [~uselpa@83.99.17.89] has joined #scheme 21:34:53 Aune [~Arne@h-152-28.a163.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #scheme 21:35:20 -!- crundar [~user@140-182-224-120.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:37:12 crundar [~user@140-182-224-120.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #scheme 21:39:41 tupi [~david@177.149.114.93] has joined #scheme 21:47:08 Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #scheme 21:49:26 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:49:28 Is the academic/teaching Scheme style at all like "real" Scheme code? 21:52:50 -!- uselpa [~uselpa@83.99.17.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52:52 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:55:06 As part of my, uh, scheme to get Scheme on top of JavaScript I'm breaking it into two distinct parts. So the easier part is that I'm creating an s-expression way of representing a subset of JavaScript which I will then compile to, which turns the compilation phase into just manipulating s-expressions, which I figure that Scheme is designed to do anyway. 21:56:06 There are many different styles of Scheme code... 21:56:28 Quadresce [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #scheme 21:57:17 -!- Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:57:21 HG` [~HG@wprt-4d097e29.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 21:57:23 -!- Quadresce is now known as Quadrescence 21:57:55 acieroid` [~acieroid@wtf.awesom.eu] has joined #scheme 21:58:25 -!- acieroid [~acieroid@wtf.awesom.eu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:58:34 -!- acedia_ [~garland@unaffiliated/ffs] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:58:50 acedia [~garland@unaffiliated/ffs] has joined #scheme 22:02:20 I wrote a function that translates (lambda () "Hi!" "Hello world.") to function() { "Hi"; return "Hello world.";} ... note that the end result of a translation program is going to be semantically a subset of JavaScript even though it's syntactically like Scheme. https://github.com/Aethaeryn/Orange/blob/dfc32f91ff9e2851e9fe88253e2e4588d9600980/translate.scm 22:02:20 http://tinyurl.com/ad86fqv 22:02:55 Is my style "wrong" in some way? I don't have a lot of experience with Scheme in particular, I'm doing this to get experience with Scheme. 22:03:19 You'll find such a translation gets impossible to use if you want to support continuations 22:03:24 My assumption is that it'll be easier to compile from Scheme to a Scheme-like s-expression based language, hence the two steps. 22:03:26 Or TCE 22:03:34 Actually, this whole thing is sortof a non-starter 22:03:34 LeoNerd: I realize that it can't be "true" Scheme. Thus the compilation phase. 22:03:36 -!- HG` [~HG@wprt-4d097e29.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:03:53 Without TCE you can't do even the really simple things like the while-type loops 22:04:13 even if you ignore things like call/cc and dynamic-wind 22:04:23 Yes. 22:04:59 This is going to be a language that looks syntactically like Scheme, but behaves like a subset of JavaScript. 22:05:10 Aethaeryn: no offense, but weren't you lamenting yesterday that all existing scheme/lisp -> js implementations were half complete toys? 22:05:17 I will then implement on top of this everything necessary to make it *behave* like Scheme. 22:05:42 This way I'm only working with s-expressions while implementing Scheme. 22:06:15 ijp: I have to start somewhere. I anticipate about half a dozen rewrites as I learn from my mistakes. 22:06:23 the reason for this is, at least in part, that people start coding before they make the hard decisions leonerd is describing 22:06:39 The only way to do this properly is at least half a dozen failures. 22:06:50 That'll give me the experience to actually come up with a reasonable design. 22:07:43 ijp: The translator does not translate Scheme to JavaScript. It translates a sexpy JavaScript to real JavaScript, so that for everything else I work with s-expressions instead of strings. 22:08:19 It won't even be the full JavaScript since it's a very messy language. 22:09:07 Scheme and JavaScript are too different for something close to a one-to-one translation, but I will first transform it to this intermediate form and then translate it to a subsetted JavaScript. 22:09:51 ijp: This way, I hope that I don't have to rewrite the translator second phase as much as the compiler first phase. :-) 22:11:16 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 22:11:53 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:14:49 -!- Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:15:24 -!- erann [~erann@95.Red-79-146-126.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:18:49 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-187-141.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21:27 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:22:14 civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has joined #scheme 22:27:29 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-154-130.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 22:31:32 erann [~erann@194.Red-79-154-73.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 22:33:17 -!- acieroid` is now known as acieroid 22:45:10 -!- erann [~erann@194.Red-79-154-73.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:45:30 ccorn [~ccorn@dhcp-077-249-189-246.chello.nl] has joined #scheme 22:45:53 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-154-130.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:51:35 fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-203-9.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #scheme 22:53:32 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 22:55:27 erann [~erann@59.Red-83-50-2.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 22:55:41 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 22:55:56 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:56:27 -!- aiNo7equ is now known as dca 22:56:35 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@dhcp-077-249-189-246.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 22:56:50 -!- graememcc [~chatzilla@host86-162-164-218.range86-162.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.2/20121025210744]] 22:57:42 youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 23:05:02 -!- huseby [~huseby@ip65-47-28-158.z28-47-65.customer.algx.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:06:09 ccorn [~ccorn@dhcp-077-249-189-246.chello.nl] has joined #scheme 23:21:26 -!- youlysses is now known as `youlysses 23:30:07 Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has joined #scheme 23:30:16 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@dhcp-077-249-189-246.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 23:33:13 juanfra__ [juanfra684@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ovuonafvhvvwjvpk] has joined #scheme 23:45:42 -!- klutometis [~klutometi@pdpc/supporter/professional/klutometis] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:49:37 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-27-17-68.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:49:42 klutometis [~klutometi@pdpc/supporter/professional/klutometis] has joined #scheme 23:49:42 *rudybot* bows deeply before his master, inventor of incubot 23:52:58 -!- civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)]