00:03:47 confab [~confab@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has joined #scheme 00:05:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:07:20 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 00:17:37 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:19:44 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 00:22:57 -!- simio [~jesper@81-231-172-60-no135.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:29:11 simio [~jesper@81-231-172-60-no135.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #scheme 00:29:20 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:31:42 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 00:38:15 -!- fold [~fold@66-169-204-12.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:41:30 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:43:17 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:43:36 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 00:47:37 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 00:48:19 -!- DT`` is now known as DT` 00:49:47 -!- masm [~masm@bl16-216-171.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:51:33 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:52:37 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 00:53:36 fold [~fold@66-169-204-12.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #scheme 00:57:13 fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-209-176.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #scheme 00:59:24 -!- fold [~fold@66-169-204-12.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:04 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:09:14 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 01:16:36 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:23:43 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 01:28:04 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-163-149.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:31:01 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-163-149.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:32:49 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:35:35 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 01:35:48 alicebob [~b@c-24-14-148-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:40:59 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:41:54 -!- acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-53-137.gmavt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:43:25 m4burns [cbacfg@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #scheme 01:44:57 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:45:26 -!- turbofail [~user@38.99.37.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:50:39 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.138.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:52:07 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 01:53:34 carleastlund [~cce@209-6-40-238.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 01:57:17 acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-53-137.gmavt.net] has joined #scheme 01:59:12 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:00:58 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 02:03:00 Qinix [~qinix@124.126.231.224] has joined #scheme 02:10:16 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:10:54 ssbr [~ssbr@python/site-packages/ssbr] has joined #scheme 02:12:53 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 02:15:53 fold [~fold@66-169-204-12.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #scheme 02:18:09 -!- Qinix [~qinix@124.126.231.224] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:20:30 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:29:30 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 02:34:59 -!- phao [phao@177.115.41.109] has quit [Quit: Not Here] 02:38:21 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:39:28 -!- evhan [evhan@pdpc/supporter/active/evhan] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:40:10 evhan [evhan@pdpc/supporter/active/evhan] has joined #scheme 02:41:16 -!- evhan [evhan@pdpc/supporter/active/evhan] has quit [Client Quit] 02:41:53 evhan [evhan@pdpc/supporter/active/evhan] has joined #scheme 02:43:05 evhan_ [evhan@pdpc/supporter/active/evhan] has joined #scheme 02:43:17 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 02:44:05 -!- evhan [evhan@pdpc/supporter/active/evhan] has quit [Client Quit] 02:51:03 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:54:30 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 02:58:50 -!- carleastlund [~cce@209-6-40-238.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: carleastlund] 03:00:14 -!- evhan_ is now known as evhan 03:03:45 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:04:50 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 03:08:49 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 03:09:21 b4283 [~b4283@118-171-53-3.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 03:18:55 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:20:28 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 03:21:40 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-42-64.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 03:28:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:34:50 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 03:36:48 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r190-135-78-12.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:39:12 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 03:42:12 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:45:50 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 03:51:37 arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #scheme 03:54:41 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:55:51 yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-42-64.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 03:57:08 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 04:02:01 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 04:02:36 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.142.64] has joined #scheme 04:06:23 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:11:35 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 04:13:40 -!- arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:14:07 arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #scheme 04:14:56 -!- b4283 [~b4283@118-171-53-3.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:18:27 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.47.170] has joined #scheme 04:21:03 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:21:40 -!- arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:22:02 arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #scheme 04:25:39 -!- sambio [~cc@190.57.227.107] has quit [] 04:26:18 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 04:35:43 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:40:32 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 04:44:27 -!- arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:44:49 arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #scheme 04:49:42 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:55:11 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 05:03:56 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:04:59 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-42-64.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: bye!] 05:09:06 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 05:18:48 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:24:07 -!- alicebob [~b@c-24-14-148-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:25:05 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 05:25:20 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:28:22 alicebob [~b@c-24-14-148-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:32:33 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.142.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:34:02 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:37:58 -!- Saeren [~saeren@mail.skepsi.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:38:08 Saeren [~saeren@mail.skepsi.net] has joined #scheme 05:38:56 yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-42-64.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 05:39:06 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 05:43:28 noam [~noam@213.57.201.130] has joined #scheme 05:48:05 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:53:46 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 05:59:09 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:59:58 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:02:13 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.152.204] has joined #scheme 06:04:34 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60D7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 06:07:45 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 06:15:04 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:17:43 enoan [~xmike@dynamic2-250-014.usc.edu] has joined #scheme 06:23:21 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 06:32:01 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:33:15 -!- fold [~fold@66-169-204-12.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:37:18 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 06:41:41 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-42-64.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: bye!] 06:43:18 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:46:21 mmc1 [~michal@178-85-68-252.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 06:46:30 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:47:28 answer_42 [~answer_42@ip82-139-81-70.lijbrandt.net] has joined #scheme 06:51:46 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 06:52:34 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.47.170] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:59:41 -!- enoan [~xmike@dynamic2-250-014.usc.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:00:13 -!- arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:59 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:00:59 arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #scheme 07:05:39 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.152.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:06:29 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 07:13:12 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60D7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:15:56 -!- arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:15:57 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:16:19 arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #scheme 07:16:30 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.31.135] has joined #scheme 07:18:28 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.136.44] has joined #scheme 07:20:58 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 07:30:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:35:44 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 07:37:18 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:43:16 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.136.44] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:43:40 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 07:43:40 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.136.44] has joined #scheme 07:44:52 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:46:03 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #scheme 07:46:25 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 07:48:20 I give up sweet-expression. The parens are less taxing on the mind :) Explicit is better than implicit. 07:54:09 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:00:45 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 08:07:54 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:15:27 -!- arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:15:46 arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #scheme 08:16:39 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 08:25:44 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:27:25 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 08:33:56 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:41:44 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 08:43:16 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:48:36 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 08:50:28 carleastlund [~cce@209-6-40-238.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 08:50:33 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:51:27 is there an emacs plugin that does syntax highlightinh like http://community.schemewiki.org/?scheme-faq-language ? 08:56:57 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 08:59:39 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:02:02 I don't know of any such plugins, but there is a good explantation of how you can customize the syntax highlighting: http://community.schemewiki.org/?emacs-syntax-hilight 09:02:19 -!- ASau [~user@95-26-212-152.broadband.corbina.ru] has left #scheme 09:03:45 ok 09:04:28 also, is there a (symbol-value '+) ==> procedure ... in scheme ?? 09:05:57 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:07:59 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 09:10:39 (eval '+) 09:10:46 do you mean like that? 09:11:45 yes 09:12:22 (eval '+) requires something called environment ... i have no clue what that is 09:12:40 in common lisp we have (symbol-value '+) 09:13:00 in chicken scheme you also have symbol-value 09:13:15 but in standard scheme you don't have it. 09:14:04 (eval '+ (interaction-environment)) 09:14:53 are there other environments like (get-current-environment) ?? 09:16:57 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:17:03 http://wiki.call-cc.org/man/4/The%20R5RS%20standard#eval 09:19:00 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 09:19:32 tkx ! 09:25:56 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:29:53 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 09:30:28 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:34:06 gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has joined #scheme 09:37:39 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:41:00 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 09:42:01 masm [~masm@bl16-216-171.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 09:48:27 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:58:22 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 10:00:05 -!- taylanub [tub@p4FD92454.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 10:00:18 taylanub [tub@p4FD91B4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 10:01:12 -!- Guest91910 is now known as `micro 10:01:19 -!- snorble_ [~snorble@c193-14-18-68.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:01:48 snorble_ [~snorble@c193-14-18-68.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 10:06:09 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:06:19 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@69.84.244.131] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 10:09:26 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 10:12:29 -!- arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:12:48 arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #scheme 10:17:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:17:31 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-158-172.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 10:23:27 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 10:25:26 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.136.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:30:51 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:37:59 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 10:46:17 -!- carleastlund [~cce@209-6-40-238.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: carleastlund] 10:47:30 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:49:44 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 10:56:16 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-35-137.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [] 10:57:25 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:59:51 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.156.184] has joined #scheme 11:07:51 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 11:14:49 noam_ [~noam@213.57.201.130] has joined #scheme 11:17:13 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:18:02 -!- noam [~noam@213.57.201.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:23:31 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 11:24:34 kuribas [~user@94-227-88-230.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 11:32:14 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-35-137.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 11:33:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:36:04 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 11:46:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:49:04 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 11:56:37 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:58:23 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-35-137.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [] 12:01:54 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 12:06:33 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:10:29 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-35-137.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 12:13:45 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #scheme 12:18:25 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 12:25:51 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:30:22 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 12:35:01 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:37:13 -!- arbn [~arbn@71-87-150-49.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:40:09 hive-min1 [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 12:41:30 -!- hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:45:57 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:47:19 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 12:50:40 jao [~user@164.Red-83-32-68.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 12:50:43 -!- jao [~user@164.Red-83-32-68.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 12:50:44 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 12:51:29 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.47.170] has joined #scheme 12:51:29 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.47.170] has quit [Changing host] 12:51:29 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 12:54:49 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:55:05 add^_ [~add^_@m90-130-63-206.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 13:04:44 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 13:11:56 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:16:34 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 13:24:49 ijp [~user@host86-182-157-19.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 13:25:51 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:27:48 -!- ssbr [~ssbr@python/site-packages/ssbr] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:28:39 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 13:38:28 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:40:21 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-158-172.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:41:24 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 13:48:45 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:50:08 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #scheme 13:53:44 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 13:56:37 -!- taylanub [tub@p4FD91B4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:56:52 taylanub [tub@p4FD91B4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 13:57:02 -!- kuribas [~user@94-227-88-230.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 13:58:33 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 14:08:30 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:08:34 Brucio-8 [~Brucio-8@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:10:51 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 14:13:09 -!- Brucio-8 [~Brucio-8@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:13:12 jesusito [~user@10.1.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 14:16:23 leo2007 [~leo@182.48.111.218] has joined #scheme 14:20:40 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:22:12 -!- confab [~confab@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:23:28 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 14:24:21 homie [~homie@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:27:36 -!- homie [~homie@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:33:23 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:36:00 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 14:43:45 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:48:39 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 14:49:56 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 14:53:34 -!- leo2007 [~leo@182.48.111.218] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.2.1] 14:53:50 phao [phao@177.115.23.25] has joined #scheme 14:57:41 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:58:50 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 14:59:53 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 15:03:39 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:09:08 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:10:35 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 15:11:11 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 15:12:37 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:20:55 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:22:08 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 15:24:18 -!- jesusito [~user@10.1.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has left #scheme 15:26:18 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:26:52 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 15:29:40 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:32:34 fold [~fold@66-169-204-12.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #scheme 15:37:47 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 15:44:52 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:44:53 -!- phao [phao@177.115.23.25] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46:18 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 15:48:36 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.47.170] has joined #scheme 15:48:41 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.47.170] has quit [Changing host] 15:48:42 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 15:54:16 carleastlund [~cce@gotham.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 15:55:45 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:57:37 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@ip82-139-81-70.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:57:44 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 16:00:56 phao [phao@177.174.37.97] has joined #scheme 16:07:21 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:10:16 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 16:11:48 pnpuff [~pnpuff@gateway/tor-sasl/pnpuff] has joined #scheme 16:19:27 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:21:39 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 16:21:45 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 16:28:47 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:33:23 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 16:33:24 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:33:26 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 16:34:14 answer_42 [~answer_42@ip82-139-81-70.lijbrandt.net] has joined #scheme 16:37:50 -!- pnpuff [~pnpuff@gateway/tor-sasl/pnpuff] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:39:31 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 16:42:07 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 16:42:11 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:45:48 -!- phao [phao@177.174.37.97] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45:51 phao_ [~phao@177.174.169.87] has joined #scheme 16:46:39 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:47:03 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 16:47:25 -!- phao_ [~phao@177.174.169.87] has quit [Client Quit] 16:48:16 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 16:50:54 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:51:24 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 16:52:24 -!- crundar [~Jason@99-108-224-199.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:59:14 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:04:41 bfig [~b_fin_g@r186-52-165-207.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 17:05:46 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 17:06:04 -!- AntelopeSalad [~AntelopeS@ool-43543e72.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 17:06:47 SHODAN [~shozan@c-f7b2e253.011-86-73746f30.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 17:09:38 phao [phao@177.174.169.87] has joined #scheme 17:12:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:17:48 -!- phao [phao@177.174.169.87] has quit [Quit: Not Here] 17:19:54 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 17:22:55 mgodshall [~quassel@c-68-81-2-181.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:23:09 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:23:18 hypnocat [~hypnocat@unaffiliated/hypnocat] has joined #scheme 17:27:10 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:30:08 Brucio-8 [~Brucio-8@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 17:33:05 -!- Brucio-8 [~Brucio-8@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:35:06 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 17:36:52 phao [phao@187.91.104.213] has joined #scheme 17:37:23 -!- Natch [~natch@c-1dcce155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:10 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 17:44:20 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:46:39 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 17:47:40 -!- phao [phao@187.91.104.213] has quit [Quit: Not Here] 17:50:35 huangjs [~huangjs@69.84.244.131] has joined #scheme 17:51:01 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:53:28 i need a little bit of advice.. 17:53:46 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:54:15 i just started using an audio programming language called Common Music, which is scheme based (using a scheme called "s7" which is mostly r5rs compatible: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/s7.html ) 17:54:48 when i run common music from the shell, it starts up with a regular repl 17:55:16 however, for some reason, the author of common music has not allowed many configuration options to be set or used from within this non-gui repl 17:55:48 in order to access the configuration options and use some features of the program, it seems i have to run "grace", which is a gui front end to common music, with its own editor 17:56:02 the editor is pretty primitive compared to the likes of vim and emacs 17:56:40 i'd like to use my own favorite editor, vim, to do the editing and to communicate with common music.. but it needs to be done from within grace 17:57:13 so, since the full power of scheme is available from within common music, i thought there should be a way to accomplish this 17:57:56 maybe when i start up grace, i could run a scheme program that could create a repl listening on a socket or on a fifo or something 17:58:10 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 17:58:22 and it could get commands from vim through that socket or fifo, and send results back on the same socket or to another fifo 17:58:56 does anyone have any idea of how difficult doing something like this would be? or what the best approach here would be? 18:00:18 phao [phao@177.26.65.241] has joined #scheme 18:01:48 ideally you would like to run a command in vim and it would pass the current buffer's contents to grace to be evaluated, did i get that right ? 18:02:31 phao_ [phao@177.26.65.241] has joined #scheme 18:03:28 taylanub: i don't necessarily want to pass the whole buffer.. the typical use case would involve passing either the visually selected area or the block of code surrounding the cursor 18:03:51 and reading back the result from common music 18:04:36 -!- phao_ [phao@177.26.65.241] has quit [Client Quit] 18:04:51 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:06:25 -!- phao [phao@177.26.65.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:06:29 what settings are there in grace that you can't use from within the repl? 18:07:05 very important ones.. in particular, i can't make common music connect to a midi device from the regular repl 18:07:12 that has to be done from within grace 18:07:34 there are lots of other configuration options that can only be accessed from grace as well 18:07:48 and once they're configured, they configuration is only active within grace 18:10:37 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:11:06 selecting the expression surrounding the cursor should be possible with vim. then i imagine you'd implement a simple ad-hoc protocol for doing IPC with grace 18:11:07 ok, I thought they where both just frontends for the common music backend, and therefor equivalent in this regard. 18:12:29 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 18:12:37 e.g. null-separated byte-sequences representing a string to be evaluated (i see s7 even has `eval-string') and the response 18:13:07 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 18:13:27 alicebob_ [~b@c-24-14-148-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:13:44 i guess line-based would be easier in s7, but then you need to make vim strip \n from the sexp around the cursor 18:16:18 -!- alicebob [~b@c-24-14-148-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:16:26 AntelopeSalad [~AntelopeS@ool-43543e72.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 18:17:36 actually i can't seem to find filesystem-access in s7 from the link you gave, i hope grace extends s7 enough to allow that 18:17:59 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:20:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:20:13 kudkudyak [~user@94.72.157.243] has joined #scheme 18:21:50 taylanub: the version 2 of cm is written in a scheme written in Common Lisp. It must be easier to access to the CL layer including I/O there. 18:22:24 azaz [One@ip-34-39.wireless.ksu.edu] has joined #scheme 18:26:25 taylanub: common music does have some extensions: http://commonmusic.sourceforge.net/cm/res/doc/cm.html 18:26:37 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-209-176.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:26:57 pjb: i'm using the scheme version of common music (version 3.8.0) 18:26:58 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 18:27:51 unfortunately, i couldn't find any mentions of sockets in the s7 docs 18:28:23 phao [phao@177.26.65.241] has joined #scheme 18:29:25 at least it does have with-input-from-file 18:29:46 so maybe using a fifo would be the way to go? 18:30:31 or could there be some generic r5rs socket library i could try importing in to common music's s7 scheme? 18:30:41 hypnocat: cm 2 is written in scheme. Its scheme is written in CL. 18:30:47 ah 18:30:56 this is madness :P 18:31:18 AFAIAC, CL is more portable than C. 18:31:25 And you can just load lisp modules in cm2 18:32:26 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:33:00 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 18:33:24 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:36:12 are there any generic r5rs scheme libraries that might be able to help me do this sort fo thing? 18:36:21 snits [~snits@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com] has joined #scheme 18:36:25 maybe some simple IPC library.. don't know.. 18:36:41 also, i'm not sure what would be best to do from the vim end 18:37:16 i guess the simplest would be to have vim output the visual selection to the stdin of some executable 18:37:38 and that executable could do the IPC with common music 18:37:40 maybe.. 18:37:52 any advice on this front? 18:37:58 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 18:40:20 There are SRFIs. 18:41:00 http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-implementers.html 18:42:19 hmm.. s7 is actually listed on that page.. 18:42:21 interesting 18:44:07 jao [~user@164.Red-83-32-68.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 18:44:15 -!- jao [~user@164.Red-83-32-68.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:44:15 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 18:45:00 lol, generic r5rs library 18:45:01 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:45:20 -!- youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47:23 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:48:06 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.37.132] has joined #scheme 18:48:06 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.37.132] has quit [Changing host] 18:48:06 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 18:48:48 is there no such thing? 18:49:00 what about SLIB? 18:49:02 it's at best a curiousity 18:49:41 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 18:49:43 s/ou/o/ 18:49:52 why do you say that? 18:49:58 because its true 18:50:15 could you elaborate on your reasons for thinking that? 18:50:16 very few people on here genuinely give two fucks about portability 18:50:27 ah 18:51:08 -!- azaz [One@ip-34-39.wireless.ksu.edu] has quit [Quit: azaz] 18:51:19 it's unfortunate, but that's the way things are 18:56:26 well, hopefully r7rs will improve the status quo.. 18:56:29 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@69.84.244.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:56:41 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:00:46 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 19:01:25 -!- imphasing [~Alex@97-81-65-25.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:01:31 imphasing [~Alex@97-81-65-25.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #scheme 19:06:33 lol 19:10:01 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:12:16 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 19:16:15 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 19:19:15 yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-42-64.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 19:19:37 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:25:15 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: hardware failing] 19:28:21 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 19:30:26 -!- alicebob_ [~b@c-24-14-148-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:32:27 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 19:33:17 FRSHPRNCFBLR [~noone@gw-wifi10.cdf.toronto.edu] has joined #scheme 19:33:57 alicebob [~b@c-24-14-148-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:34:28 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 19:37:54 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:39:25 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 19:45:46 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60D7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 19:46:31 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:46:41 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@91-157-48-51.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:46:55 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:47:09 -!- noam_ is now known as noam 19:48:10 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 19:49:22 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 19:51:03 -!- FRSHPRNCFBLR [~noone@gw-wifi10.cdf.toronto.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:52:29 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:52:52 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 19:55:33 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 19:56:40 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-42-64.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 19:57:02 -!- kudkudyak [~user@94.72.157.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:59:45 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:01:19 peterhil [~peterhil@91-157-48-51.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 20:02:55 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:05:21 noam_ [~noam@213.57.201.130] has joined #scheme 20:05:29 -!- phao [phao@177.26.65.241] has quit [Quit: Not Here] 20:06:56 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 20:07:37 -!- noam [~noam@213.57.201.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11:10 phao [phao@177.146.158.194] has joined #scheme 20:11:37 noam [~noam@213.57.201.130] has joined #scheme 20:13:21 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:14:31 -!- noam_ [~noam@213.57.201.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:18:20 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 20:19:54 -!- add^_ [~add^_@m90-130-63-206.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 20:24:59 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:31:41 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@ip82-139-81-70.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 20:33:32 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 20:34:08 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 20:42:03 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 20:43:54 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:44:24 Natch [~Natch@c-1dcce155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 20:45:48 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 20:45:57 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:52:40 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:54:13 will sicp help me to become a better web developer? 20:55:12 in the long run, probably. a philosophy textbook will too if you ask me 20:57:06 what does sicp teach in a nutshell? 20:57:20 programming 20:57:40 the _art_ of programming? 20:57:48 whatever you want to call it 20:57:56 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.156.184] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57:59 does it teach it like an artform, or a science? 20:58:26 many a scientist will see his practice as an art 21:00:00 when I think back on sicp, what I recall better than anything is learning how to use/create abstractions 21:00:21 Web programmers don't use abstractions, they use copy-and-paste. 21:00:26 will sicp teach me the skills to develop web sites, in terms of more powerfull code? 21:00:27 lcc: programming is neither 21:01:16 lcc: if the question is whether you'll earn more money after having studied sicp, the answer is that the increase will not be measurable. 21:01:30 pjb: that is not my question. 21:01:39 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 21:01:43 I want to make art. 21:01:59 as in photoshop? 21:02:24 pjb: I'm serious here. no as in code, like Perl. 21:02:44 Then yes, as it has been answered above. 21:03:21 pjb: web programmers do use abstractions, and not only copy and paste. 21:03:29 I doubt it. 21:03:56 I had to do some maintainance work on some PHP code 21:04:15 pjb: php is a whole other story. 21:04:38 pjb: that scar is probably more related to php than web development in general. :-) 21:05:06 I prefer Perl. 21:06:06 so one question could be, will sicp help me to improve my Perl coding as an artform? 21:06:09 I wrote 3 cobol programs 30 years ago. I can still read them. I wrote 3 perl programs 15 years ago, I cannot read them anymore. 21:06:21 lcc: yes. 21:08:46 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:10:57 yes, my goal is to create art in terms of code. I consider programming to be an artform. 21:12:07 sicp, taocp, taoucp, tcote. 21:12:25 s/taoucp/taoup/ 21:13:07 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 21:14:03 Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, The Art of Computer Programming, The Art of Unix Programming, The Craft of Text Editing, Compiler Principles Techniques and Tools. 21:14:44 ha. I use vim. 21:15:54 I have vim set up with tmux, to edit scheme code. 21:16:09 emacs is generally recommended for lisp 21:16:18 I pity vim users. 21:16:18 I think I will give sicp a try. I'm also interested in minix. 21:16:22 s/for lisp// 21:16:29 For anything. 21:16:55 I hear that vim scripting is turing complete. Perhaps we could write a lisp on that to make it usable? 21:17:07 and i believe that anyone who likes to have control over his whole computing environment will feel better in emacs 21:17:34 taylanub: I can edit scheme fine with vim. I also know a bit of emacs, but I just like the keybindings. 21:17:37 Heh. My boss tried to migrate from Vim to Emacs, and ended up simply setting up Slimv 21:18:00 slimv ? don't tell me it's another vim emulator 21:18:19 I use tslime 21:18:20 No, it's a swank front-end for vim. 21:18:27 ah ok 21:19:22 taynalub: I like to have control over the whole computing environment, although it is not limited to editor anyway 21:19:44 lcc: emacs provides a computing platform where you can do anything with elisp, it can cover most of your computer-usage 21:19:53 MichaelRaskin: ^ 21:20:32 e.g. nowadays i only directly interact with two applications on my system: Conkeror for the WWW, and emacs for everything else 21:20:49 taynalub: well, given that VimScript has lexical scoping by default and Emacs Lisp means interacting with a lot of dynamical-scope code.... 21:20:55 emacs+emacs+emacs+firefox+mplayer/ratpoison/X11 here. 21:21:05 +acrobat too. 21:21:06 MichaelRaskin: you're mistyping my nick. (don't you use tab completion ?) 21:21:14 Oops 21:21:22 MichaelRaskin: indeed, but at least that situation is improving 21:21:23 vim+tmux+irssi+mutt+mplayer+xmonad here 21:21:23 No I am not using completion, true 21:21:35 zsh 21:21:46 pjb: i don't see X11 and ratpoison as a part of my "real" computer usage, i could say 21:21:50 One day I'll switch to stumwm and hemlock :-) 21:22:07 you can make xmonad anything you want to. 21:22:09 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:22:30 I use StumpWM, Lots of urxvts, vim, uzbl, firefox, something for im 21:22:50 pbj: I used to have that setup. 21:23:12 lcc: http://technomancy.us/161 21:23:33 MichaelRaskin: ^ 21:23:41 The first sentence is :-) 21:24:02 is it misspell-nicks-on-IRC day ? 21:24:14 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 21:24:41 pjb: Obviously, I use the Unix Way and not all these fads like Emacs 21:24:53 *ski* . o O ( GNU Screen ) 21:25:13 ski: you're right I forgot it. 21:25:21 Yup, screen is nice 21:25:35 (emacs+emacs+emacs+acrobat+firefox+mplayer+screen/xterm)/ratpoison/X11 here. 21:25:52 pjb: Emacs user not having migrated to StumpWM? Why? 21:25:53 I use screen for remote accesses and console. 21:26:00 Lazyness. 21:26:13 MichaelRaskin: doesn't the idea attract you, of being able to change the code of your whole user-land applications while continuing to use them and have the changes take effect ? 21:26:35 lcc: ^ 21:26:55 taylanub: I have this for everything that matters 21:27:07 Since I use this computer for work, I want stable software. ratpoison is one of the best software in this respect. 21:27:24 I have multiple KLOC in my vimrc 21:27:45 I migrated when scripting ratpoison became tedious 21:27:47 conceptually I think emacs is nice, but I need ergonomic keys. #1 in an editor to me is speed and ergonomic features, I can add tools later on. 21:27:57 *mario-goulart* doesn't understand why _GNU_ screen makes the default prefix for comands a keybinding which clashes with the default goto-beginning-of-line _GNU_ readline's binding. 21:28:30 lcc: it is quite ergonomic. put ctrl to caps-lock, and more importantly learn to navigate with isearch and such 21:28:31 huangjs [~huangjs@69.84.244.131] has joined #scheme 21:28:40 324KB in ~/.emacs + 1.8 MB in ~/src/public/emacs/*.el 21:28:40 21:28:45 I have ctrl->caps_lock on vim. 21:29:14 mario-goulart: I use C-t in screen. 21:29:23 mario-goulart: I use C-t in ratpoison, C-z in screen. 21:29:46 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60D7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:29:50 pjb: I use other keybinding, but I wonder C-a is the DEFAULT. 21:29:54 I have both C-a and C-z screens, and use ContextMenu in StumpWM 21:29:56 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.31.135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:29:56 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.31.135] has joined #scheme 21:30:14 -!- tali713 [~user@c-76-17-236-129.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:30:21 tali713 [~user@c-76-17-236-129.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:30:22 MichaelRaskin: how many of your terminal application have to re-implement the usage of 256 colors by using ncurses ? 21:30:23 alicebob_ [~b@c-24-14-148-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:30:29 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:30:30 It's rather stupid that the default keybindings for unrelated actions clash in GNU projects. 21:30:54 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:31:02 And annoying. 21:31:11 taylanub: I usually write code with syntax highlighting off... 21:31:21 jao [~user@164.Red-83-32-68.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 21:31:25 -!- jao [~user@164.Red-83-32-68.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 21:31:25 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 21:31:35 *taylanub* slowly moves away from MichaelRaskin, keeping his eyes on him 21:31:50 And if using a library is called reimplementing now, I see how .emacs grows to hundreds of KB 21:32:04 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:32:29 MichaelRaskin: i only know that it somehow was a huge hassle for weechat to implement 256 colors, i haven't ever used ncurses myself, have you ? 21:33:19 -!- alicebob [~b@c-24-14-148-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:33:47 Nope, only tput in shellscripts 21:33:52 MichaelRaskin: so you use vim also? 21:34:02 Of course 21:34:07 =) 21:35:01 modal bindings and text objects are simply better, no question here 21:35:12 write an IRC client in elisp and you automatically get all colors emacs supports, spell-checking, the ability to script your client in elisp, ... 21:35:34 MichaelRaskin: modal bindings are subjective, and text object exist in emacs 21:36:00 modal bindings are needed to make the text object bindings usable 21:36:02 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 21:36:09 incorrect 21:36:22 As for scripting the client, I prefer Shell over Elisp any day of the week. 21:36:39 then i'm very sad for you :) 21:37:28 i mastered the POSIX sh standard, i certainly like it, but i would never claim it to be a good language for any real programmer 21:38:29 It's silly to use sh (or any similar shell) to write scripts. Since 1999 I write all my new scripts in clisp. 21:38:49 I can do in a few keystrokes in vim what would take 20 keystrokes in emacs. 21:39:06 that's usually bullshit 21:39:12 i still use my "shellplayer" to wrap mplayer when listening to music, i will be very heartbroken when i finally trash it :P 21:39:13 I have a lot of scripts in shell and a lot of code in Common Lisp 21:39:15 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@176.14.211.55] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:39:25 lcc: give example please 21:39:25 not always, but very often it is 21:40:21 a regex to lower case all letters between < > is certainly simpler. 21:40:30 let's see... 21:40:31 (this was my conclusion after a _very_ long flame fest with a vimmer) 21:40:41 lcc: va<~ ? 21:40:54 yeah. 21:40:56 Ah, lower case 21:41:01 then not ~ 21:41:14 Furthermore, it's better to have an orthogonal user interface or programming language, that short shortcuts. 21:41:17 va vi ijp: how would one do that in emacs? 21:42:31 lcc: across a file, or on a line, or what? 21:42:34 (how is that a regex ...) 21:42:49 ijp: on the <...> you're inside of, from what they typed 21:42:52 both. taylanub it's not. but you could do it with a regex, MichaelRaskin mentioned it. 21:43:12 lcc: you can do regexen in elisp, obviously, it's a programming language you know 21:43:13 ok on a line, do one <> 21:43:27 in the quickest way possible on emacs 21:43:54 ^f C-M-u until i'm at the <, C-SPC C-SPC to activate region, C-M-f to go to the >, then whatever keybinding downcases region (i never use upcase/downcase ..) 21:44:49 "until i'm at the <" will probably be once in HTML 21:45:01 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:45:14 actually: you could do either F or f depending 21:45:17 without ^ 21:45:48 to further elaborate my point, try beat vim golfers with emacs. 21:46:02 I bet you can't ever beat the top scores. 21:46:03 hrm, actually in nxml-mode with `nxml-sexp-element-flag', the C-M-f would bring me to the closing tag, so i'd use M-f instead if i only want the tag 21:46:09 editor golf is insane, but timvisher puts up vids for it 21:46:30 for the task above I'd probably C-s < C-SPC C-s > C-x C-l, but it can almost certainly be done shorter 21:46:47 ITYM C-r ? 21:46:50 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 21:47:30 if it was only one word, it would be trivially shortened to C-s < M-l 21:47:43 since > is usually considered a word break 21:47:48 lcc: what if I want every pom.xml file I open in my editor to rename the buffer to project-name-pom? mind you, I have no idea if it's usual to have many buffers in vim or something 21:48:18 MichaelRaskin: ? 21:48:37 finnrobi: for that, the shell would be used 21:48:41 What do you mean - buffer name? 21:49:25 well in my dayjob I work on a project where there are 445 files named pom.xml in the repository, and I tend to need to compare them in my editor from time to time 21:49:38 MichaelRaskin: buffers are an editor data structure. 21:49:50 I want to be able to swap back and forth between them by a name other than pom.xml or their full path 21:49:54 lcc: if you give a more sensible example (like "the HTML tag i'm in"), we might get clearer results, although editor golf is indeed insanity like ijp said 21:49:55 in emacs this is trivial 21:50:39 if my editor ever becomes such a bottleneck I have to squeeze out every last keystroke, I'd get a better editor... 21:50:49 you could apply the same example for Makefile, setup.py or a number of other common file names I suspect 21:51:50 I prefer an autocommand that chdirs to the directory of the file (and I specify relative paths which are short most of the time, but that is the function of how I layout my Common Lisp projects at work) 21:53:26 I could change the autocommand to also (instead?) keep track of open files and define a trivial lookup function to open files by non-standard names 21:54:09 finnrobi: (oh, you were actually talking about buffer names, and not the related files' names ?) 21:54:33 taylanub: I can't change the file names or maven will whine (this is java world project structure) 21:54:45 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:55:03 i have no idea of this pom.xml 21:55:19 pray that you never need to learn it either. :-) 21:55:53 I guess I would just index all these files and create a select-based virtual dir if I had tens of identically-named files 21:56:16 to each his/her own. 21:56:28 vim is my editor. always will be. 21:56:45 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:56:50 lcc: i also thought so a year ago >:) 21:56:54 *hypnocat* uses vim too 21:56:56 I have a virtual file system with SQL queries for managing large ill-structured file sets 21:57:21 (virtual FS as in FUSE) 21:58:18 I think that I will give sicp a try. 21:58:29 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 21:58:42 I guess I could jump ship to something with a real modern Lisp as a scripting language, but last when I built Hemlock I remember having strange issues making it even draw itself 21:59:02 I'm interested in both web devel + computer science. 21:59:03 And I am not sure that I succeeded in building a terminal version of it 21:59:24 lcc: what aspect of web devel do you like ? 22:00:06 taylanub: mainly backend stuff, I would guess. 22:00:17 networking and the basic WWW structure etc. can be fun, but the "real" WWW is a business-driven chaotic mess of insanity 22:00:42 i found sicp to be kind of boring.. 22:00:56 at least at the beginning 22:01:07 the later parts seem more interesting.. but i never got around to them 22:01:24 hypnocat: if you already know lisp i guess the start can be a bit boring 22:01:24 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 22:02:08 i've read like half (or a 1/3 ?) of it, mainly solidified my existing knowledge .. was nice, i will continue some time 22:03:24 i think it might be more fun if you're interested in implementing programming languages 22:07:48 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:09:29 after reading sicp, will I be a programmer. Could I pick up xyz language and make art? 22:09:47 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 22:10:04 lcc: yes, that'd be the point of sicp. 22:10:14 I read it then. 22:10:27 and watch the videos. Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book-Z-H-4.html http://swiss.csail.mit.edu/classes/6.001/abelson-sussman-lectures/ 22:10:49 I'll probably eventually have lot's of questions here. 22:15:58 pjb: have you read the entire text? 22:16:56 Almost. 22:17:03 wow 22:17:19 how long have you been reading it? 22:17:40 I know it for a long time. 22:18:47 ok. what do I need to know before reading it? I don't know calculus, but I do know college algebra. 22:19:19 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:21:52 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 22:29:28 any 1? 22:29:45 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 22:30:12 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:30:51 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:30:56 I think you could just start reading it 22:31:07 one of the examples used in sicp is a symbolic differentiation procedure, but you're probably fine 22:31:08 And when you don't understand something, ask for recommendations 22:31:14 ok. I will then. 22:32:41 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 22:39:57 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:46:42 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 22:51:06 -!- snits [~snits@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:01 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55:23 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 22:55:47 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:55:54 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 22:57:14 snits [~snits@75-167-13-218.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 22:57:40 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 22:58:00 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 22:58:08 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 23:01:27 -!- carleastlund [~cce@gotham.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Quit: carleastlund] 23:05:00 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:05:32 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 23:13:31 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 23:17:34 ssbr_ [~ssbr@python/site-packages/ssbr] has joined #scheme 23:20:42 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 23:21:08 -!- alicebob_ [~b@c-24-14-148-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:22:36 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:25:00 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 23:29:32 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 23:29:56 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 23:33:40 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:34:55 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:35:58 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 23:42:16 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-21.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:42:56 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:44:18 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:48:33 -!- organixpear [~organixpe@96-42-14-128.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:49:40 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #scheme 23:57:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:59:45 -!- phao [phao@177.146.158.194] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:59:57 phao [~phao@187.91.100.146] has joined #scheme