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about this stuff; have our preferences, but it really doesn't matter nearly as much. 18:09:52 pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 18:10:10 -!- pjb is now known as Guest1045 18:10:19 -!- phao [phao@187.91.128.71] has quit [Quit: Not Here] 18:10:53 are you really worried about a majority or even a sizable percentage of scheme users switching to infix in 20 years? 18:11:08 not even slightly 18:11:18 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-160-143.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:13:18 -!- b4283 [~b4283@114-47-17-19.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14:51 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-198-46.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:15:39 -!- carleastlund [~cce@gotham.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Quit: carleastlund] 18:16:48 bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-52-0-173.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 18:20:24 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:26:03 close-paren 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close-paren] 18:51:27 -!- Guest1045 is now known as pjb 18:52:58 ASau: there have been infix macros forever 18:53:30 Then they should be evaluated and standardized. :) 18:53:50 but they don't get used... 18:53:57 That's another issue. 18:54:00 -!- bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-52-0-173.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:54:04 use first, standardise later 18:54:27 I thought that SRFI is RFC-like process... 18:54:42 -!- ijp [~user@host86-177-157-186.range86-177.btcentralplus.com] has left #scheme 18:54:48 ijp [~user@host86-177-157-186.range86-177.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 18:55:23 ijp: disconnect or just wrong key? 18:55:28 wrong key 18:56:03 ASau: I assumed when you said "they should be standardised" you were talking about the revised reports 18:56:18 Well... 18:56:20 since srfis cannot really be called standards 18:56:29 Well... 18:56:56 For practitioner it doesn't matter much who exactly standard issuer is, 18:57:12 provided it has enough authority. 18:57:20 and what authority does an srfi have? 18:57:31 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 18:57:38 I think it is accepted. 18:57:41 *ASau* shrugs. 18:57:53 ASau: so which exception srfi is standard? 18:58:01 At least, without SRFI-1 Scheme is almost useless. 18:58:16 I've said it before, only 3 srfis can really be called ubiquitous 18:58:40 so you can claim 1,6, and 9 are "standard", but I don't think the claim stretches to the rest 18:58:51 ASau, what do you mean by "Scheme"? 18:59:28 many are competing, and some are specious, and most didn't even get to final 18:59:29 No matter what it is or who commenced it, I'm against it! 18:59:36 Riastradh: hehe 18:59:45 :) 19:00:09 (Excerpt from the manifesto of the Marxist faction of the Scheme world.) 19:00:23 which, of course, you wrote :) 19:00:32 Ehm. 19:00:52 The Ghost wandering over what? 19:01:25 -!- joast [~rick@76.178.135.192] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:01:36 (While here, where's the ghost of lang/mit-scheme you were talking about a long time ago? :) 19:03:07 -!- pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:08 rudybot: are you for or against? 19:03:09 ijp: I dont really understand the point your making. I have looked at that too and have seen it. Platform and compiler do no influence unduly the style and naming conventions closed source developers use IF they choose to go against established standards which exist for all platforms. 19:03:10 Hmm, somewhere in my tree, I think. Should be dusted off and committed, I guess. 19:04:21 kilimanjaro: does that really matter? 19:05:10 kilimanjaro: as for me, I'm not rigorist, for me Scheme isn't defined by single report or ANSI-ISO/IEC standard. 19:05:47 #scheme has too few "rigorist"s 19:05:48 It includes at least major implementations and widely used extensions. 19:06:17 eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has joined #scheme 19:07:11 Applied to the particular problem, part of it may be that 19:07:11 this syntax extension may be hard to implement in software, 19:07:38 or its usage may conflict in unobvious way with some more 19:07:38 common language features, 19:08:48 if it can be implemented in reasonable way and provide 19:08:49 reasonable syntax, it should be distributed under really free licence, 19:09:32 free distribution is a part of the srfi process 19:09:35 so that noone in his right mind would attempt to 19:09:35 reimplement it just because gnu boyscouts redefine the meaning 19:09:35 of word "free." 19:09:46 oh, you're one of those people 19:11:03 -!- ijp [~user@host86-177-157-186.range86-177.btcentralplus.com] has left #scheme 19:11:22 Debates for free. :D 19:13:42 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:15:33 -!- crundar__ [~Jason@99-108-224-199.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:17:52 pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 19:18:15 -!- pjb is now known as Guest84377 19:22:40 hi, any hygienic macro expert? How do I write this with syntax-case? (defmacro nest (&rest things) (reduce #'(lambda (outer inner) (append outer (list inner))) things :from-end t)) 19:23:41 or is it intrinsically unhygienic? 19:24:11 (the purpose is indeed to scope without indenting) 19:24:59 -!- Guest84377 is now known as pjb 19:25:02 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 19:25:11 ijp, I believe the proper pejorative term you seek is `rigor mortists'. 19:25:29 -!- pjb is now known as Guest83273 19:25:51 Fare, show an example input and output? I always forget what the directionality of REDUCE is. 19:26:13 "from-end" means that it is foldr. 19:26:14 (nest (a b) (c d) (e f)) ==> (a b (c d (e f))) 19:27:04 (define-syntax nest (syntax-rules () ((nest x) x) ((nest (x ...) y z ...) (x ... (nest y z ...))))) 19:27:06 I've just nested 13 let*'s, multiple-value-bind's and when's in this function... 19:27:12 rudybot: (define-syntax nest (syntax-rules () ((nest x) x) ((nest (x ...) y z ...) (x ... (nest y z ...))))) 19:27:13 Riastradh: your sandbox is ready 19:27:13 Riastradh: Done. 19:27:30 rudybot: (nest (quote) (let ((x 5))) (let ((y 3))) (begin (pp (list x y)))) 19:27:30 Riastradh: ; Value: (nest (let ((x 5))) (let ((y 3))) (begin (pp (list x y)))) 19:27:39 rudybot: does that scope properly? 19:27:40 Fare: well yes, and i think elisp would be better if it had lexical scope by default. But I understand why dynamic was chosen. 19:27:47 Well, of course that didn't work. 19:28:00 But anyway, yes, the scope will be right. 19:28:16 rudybot: (nest (let ((x 5))) (let ((y (+ x 3)))) (begin (write (list x y)))) 19:28:16 Riastradh: ; stdout: "(5 8)" 19:28:17 thanks! 19:29:17 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.144.248] has joined #scheme 19:30:29 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.144.248] has quit [Client Quit] 19:31:47 add^_ [~add^_@m213-101-201-147.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 19:33:12 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:34:23 -!- Guest83273 is now known as pjb 19:38:23 note that foldl instead of foldr is great for piping 19:40:43 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 19:53:43 crundar [Jason@140-182-149-20.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #scheme 20:00:29 BW^- [Miranda@201.224.148.73] has joined #scheme 20:03:49 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:09:14 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:09:50 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-178-129.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:54 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:11:46 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 20:17:17 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:22:33 -!- pothos [~pothos@114-36-227-19.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:54 -!- eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:25:47 pothos [~pothos@114-25-195-123.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 20:33:20 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-42-68.columbus.res.rr.com] has left #scheme 20:36:12 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:36:48 eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has joined #scheme 20:50:15 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 21:01:01 -!- BW^- [Miranda@201.224.148.73] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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(full text of the error here: http://pastie.org/4593566 ) 21:41:55 and looking in the config.log i see: "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib64/libgmp.so when searching for -lgmp" 21:43:21 i do indeed have a libgmp, but it is a 64-bit one.. 21:43:56 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-42-68.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 21:46:13 well, after hacking around with configure for a bit more, i managed to get this error: "configure: error: Ikarus can only run in 32-bit mode." 21:47:00 still, in the ACKNOWLEDGMENTS file i see thanks to "- Tom Gordon reported installation problems on 64-bit systems which resulted in improving the error report of the configure script." 21:47:15 and "Jens Axel Søgaard(and his brother) provided solutions for compiling Ikarus on 64-bit machines." 21:47:40 so i'd expect it should be possible to get ikarus running on at least some 64-bit machines.. though perhaps not on linux 21:47:58 BossKonaSegwaY1 [~Michael@cpe-75-187-42-68.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 21:48:01 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-42-68.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:48:21 or maybe i need to get a 32-bit version of libgmp 21:48:54 Fare [~Fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 21:50:07 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-24-247-148.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:33 -!- choas [~lars@pD9FCDDA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:01:12 -!- BossKonaSegwaY1 [~Michael@cpe-75-187-42-68.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:01:51 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-42-68.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:04:24 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-160-39.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 22:05:46 -!- confab [~confab@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:06:45 -!- eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:07:14 bfig [~b_fin_g@r186-52-0-173.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 22:08:57 ssbr [~ssbr@python/site-packages/ssbr] has joined #scheme 22:12:37 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 22:13:03 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:13:21 -!- preflex_ is now known as preflex 22:17:03 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-125-214.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:05 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r186-52-0-173.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:19:03 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 22:19:28 ytti [~ytti@li285-245.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 22:19:37 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 22:19:49 Gentlemen, good evening. 22:20:15 I am mucking about in SICP, solving the exercises too. I am using Dr.Racket and #lang planet neil/sicp. 22:20:46 I am trying to write a recursive procedure for generating the nth Fibonacci number. 22:21:29 Why does the following not work: (define (fibb n) 22:21:29 (if (= n (or 0 1)) 22:21:29 n 22:21:29 (+ (fibb (- n 1)) (fibb (- n 2))))) 22:22:00 If I replace the second statement with (if (or (= n 0) (= n 1)), it works swimmingly. 22:23:11 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:23:14 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60518.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 22:24:30 -!- Nisstyre_ [~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:24:34 ytti: yes. the first version doesn't make sense. 22:25:18 Thank you for responding. If I try it out that logic separately, it works as expected. (define n 0) 22:25:20 ytti: your rewrite uses (OR ...) function correctly 22:25:35 (= n (or 0 1)) returns #t as expected. 22:25:39 (define n 2) 22:25:45 (= n (or 0 1)) returns #f as expected. 22:25:48 ytti: you need to understand what OR does. 22:25:59 (if (or (= n 0) (= n 1)) ; this does what you want. 22:26:06 yes, I understand. 22:26:10 (or 0 1) ; always returns 0 22:26:36 ytti: the arguments to OR are usually booleans. as in "if n equals 0 or n equals 1..." 22:26:59 ytti: but not necessarily: 22:27:01 #;2> (or #f #f #f 3) 22:27:03 3 22:27:05 #;3> (or #f #t) 22:27:07 #t 22:27:35 ytti: i.e. it will return the first argument that is not #f, or #f if there is none. 22:27:55 OK... I don't understand the following behavior: try (define n 0) then try (= n (or 0 1)). It will give you #t. Then try (define n 2) and (= n (or 0 1)). It will give you #f. 22:28:49 oh... I got it! 22:29:05 (define n 1) and then (=n (or 0 1)) gives #f. 22:29:29 Thank you qu1j0t3 :) 22:30:11 I'll try to remember that the arguments to or/and/not should always evaluate to #t or #f. 22:30:18 ytti: you never mean (OR 0 1) 22:30:28 ytti: that is a constant 0 22:30:48 ytti: in this case you did mean (or (= n 0) (= n 1)) 22:31:23 cool 22:31:27 adios! 22:31:29 ciao 22:31:35 -!- ytti [~ytti@li285-245.members.linode.com] has left #scheme 22:33:15 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-106-116.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:34:41 sambio_ [~cc@190.57.227.107] has joined #scheme 22:34:42 -!- sambio_ [~cc@190.57.227.107] has quit [Client Quit] 22:35:09 sambio [~cc@190.57.227.107] has joined #scheme 22:45:14 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 22:48:42 joast [~rick@76.178.135.192] has joined #scheme 22:50:38 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 22:52:05 -!- crundar [Jason@140-182-149-20.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:59:54 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:02:44 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:12:37 crundar [~Jason@99-108-224-199.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 23:14:09 confab [~confab@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has joined #scheme 23:15:34 -!- WzTian [~WzTian@adsl-107-198-86-37.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:17:03 -!- tupi [~david@187.80.148.127] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:17:44 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:22:43 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 23:22:51 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:26:24 -!- confab [~confab@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:29:08 adu [~ajr@pool-71-241-254-35.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 23:33:06 confab [~confab@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has joined #scheme 23:34:04 tupi [~david@177.120.213.228] has joined #scheme 23:45:59 dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has joined #scheme 23:45:59 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:49:01 -!- youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:49:47 youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 23:57:09 Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 23:59:14 dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has joined #scheme