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:( 06:02:41 sigh 06:04:10 dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has joined #scheme 06:04:10 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has quit [Excess Flood] 06:06:28 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:08:25 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 06:11:03 jewel [~jewel@196-210-160-143.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 06:11:25 dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has joined #scheme 06:16:15 :) 06:16:20 realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 06:16:20 hi everyone 06:16:22 :) 06:25:51 hehe 06:25:57 I started doing some TCL the_phantm_menac 06:26:13 as strange as that is 06:26:18 I think scheme is more popular 06:26:40 support from the implementation looks good if you pick a major one in scheme like chicken, or racket, or some others idk 06:26:45 tcl has good support too 06:26:49 ok 06:27:03 afaik, you will be fine with both, regardless of what you choose 06:27:45 the_phantm_menac, I got to tcl mostly because of TK tbh 06:28:03 oh? 06:28:07 I did to replace bash 06:28:12 which saaks 06:28:16 but people in #tcl talk a lot about other stuff... there are some people there doing some servers stuff... tcl seem to be good at networking stuff 06:28:24 except its easier to get stuff into n outa files with bash 06:28:32 =) 06:28:35 looks true. 06:28:36 for me sofar 06:28:47 but tcl can do up and down 06:28:49 full website 06:28:53 and smal script 06:28:53 so far I wrote 2 little programs in TCL 06:29:08 Ive writen dozens 06:29:11 one is a file filter 06:29:26 and the other is a space ship game (those in which you shoot asteroids) 06:29:28 the string match and split are weapons from the gods 06:29:42 oh nice 06:29:52 I wish moops was more recent 06:30:00 what is moops? 06:30:03 I have some mysql graphing needs 06:30:22 its like a monitoring and trending thing kinda like munin or cacti 06:30:25 or graphite 06:30:28 http://personalphao.wordpress.com/2012/08/23/more-tcl-and-tk/ss03/ 06:30:34 http://personalphao.wordpress.com/2012/08/23/more-tcl-and-tk/ss01/ 06:30:35 check out =D 06:31:35 the files filter stuff does "realtime" filtering, as you type the glob http://personalphao.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/dilter.png -- it's really useful 06:33:20 One advantage I'd say TCL has against scheme is the fact that there is pretty much only one implementation (afaik) 06:33:37 I prefer the scheme language though. 06:34:07 wow space ship game looks fun 06:35:15 http://tcl.apache.org/websh/product.html websh looks fun, and naviserver 06:35:17 you can get the code in that blog post... It was an initial version... I am re-writing it, to get something more scalable 06:35:27 I just dont have enuf time to study everything!!! 06:36:04 -!- b4283 [~b4283@60-249-196-111.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:36:09 why prefer scheme? 06:36:18 is it eaier for msot stuff? 06:36:20 TCL is too permissive. 06:36:20 or something? 06:36:34 -!- fold [~fold@71-8-117-85.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:36:42 scheme is strongly typed 06:36:59 tcl only has strings, conceptually, so... typing is not its strength 06:37:48 since it'll try to do all these "interpretations" on the string to see if it fits to be 06:38:02 it's sort of loose, you can add 10 to [list 30] and get 40 06:38:06 I really don't like that. 06:38:26 hmm 06:38:31 but it's cool that you can define 10 to be a function which prints its arguments and do 10 10, and get 10 printed 06:38:40 I wonder what kind of graph tools exist for scheme 06:38:49 as in building a GUI? 06:38:56 chicken has eggs for that iirc 06:39:04 afaik racket is good at it too 06:39:51 stick in the TCL channel too, also in the channel of the scheme impl you're going to use 06:40:00 I say use chicken =) 06:40:54 http://wiki.call-cc.org/eggref/4/plot ?? 06:41:13 b4283 [~b4283@60-249-196-111.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 06:41:18 evr make a graph in scheme? 06:41:41 nops 06:42:39 http://wiki.call-cc.org/chicken-projects/egg-index-4.html#ui 06:42:55 There is an interface to tk =D 06:43:20 among others; on graphics... there is http://wiki.call-cc.org/chicken-projects/egg-index-4.html#graphics on the same page... tons of stuf 06:44:11 http://wiki.call-cc.org/eggref/4/ploticus 06:44:15 ploticus!! 06:44:16 lol 06:44:19 comedy galore 06:44:26 I love free software :) 06:44:36 I never head of this ploticus 06:44:36 gosh I gota stick to one thing tho 06:44:41 im all over the place 06:44:46 -!- Qinix [~qinix@124.126.227.72] has left #scheme 06:45:00 =) 06:45:11 I don't think the language will matter that muc 06:45:13 much* 06:45:18 pick the one you like 06:46:01 wingo [~wingo@89.131.176.233] has joined #scheme 06:46:49 http://moodss.sourceforge.net/ tcl thingy for monitoring 06:47:16 but might be a big aggged 06:48:08 lots of stuff in tcl looks aged 06:48:45 the gui is really nice though 06:50:42 -!- wuhen [~wuhen86@218.206.231.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:53:56 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 06:54:21 :) 06:54:31 thanks for being nice phao 06:54:39 do you like nba? 06:54:42 personal phao is funny 06:54:46 what is nba? 06:54:51 I like bird and barkley 06:54:54 the basket thing? 06:54:56 basketball 06:54:58 u know 06:55:05 I don't watch that 06:55:15 I am from brazil and couldn't care less for soccer 06:55:24 not a sports guy 06:56:34 -!- levi` is now known as levi 06:57:47 the_phantm_menac, have you checked the "from irc" page? 06:57:48 =D 06:58:49 ? 06:58:56 from irc? 06:58:59 in my blog... in the top 06:59:04 oh no 06:59:06 there is a page named "From IRC" 06:59:06 is it funny? 06:59:15 I hear dmany hot shemales in brazil 06:59:19 supposely, it's the funniest =D 06:59:22 link? 06:59:29 http://personalphao.wordpress.com/from-irc/ 06:59:31 haha, hot shemales? 06:59:33 I have no lue. 06:59:36 clue* 06:59:59 they say people in brazil are hot; so maybe it's true. 07:01:44 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-164-57.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 07:06:23 hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has joined #scheme 07:06:24 -!- hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has quit [Changing host] 07:06:24 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 07:07:22 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:07:59 cadu is an expert on cocks. 07:08:00 lol 07:08:06 no 07:08:07 =) 07:08:09 I mean trannies 07:08:19 I think brazilian guys are weird 07:08:24 but wow when they go tranny 07:08:29 some of hottest trannies around 07:08:37 maybe cuz med and surgery is cheaper down there 07:08:40 not sure 07:09:42 iirc, brazil has the largest gay movement in the world; or something smilar 07:10:05 or largest gay event, I don't know exactly 07:10:18 well the trannies get nice fake boobs 07:10:22 and I liek thick women 07:10:31 so they got thick brazil booty from weights and some steroids 07:10:36 then roud it out with fake lips 07:10:45 and liposuction for small waist 07:10:46 wow 07:10:51 they look bomb ass fine 07:10:58 but have 1 small difference from dream girl!! 07:12:13 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-125-214.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:15:25 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-160-143.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:18:34 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:18:49 the_phantm_menac: you're off-topic 07:21:51 adiii [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:32:04 eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has joined #scheme 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Or is that the accepted solution? 14:53:54 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.63.218] has joined #scheme 14:53:54 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.63.218] has quit [Changing host] 14:53:54 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 14:55:41 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-42-68.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:55:51 wbooze: sorry, can you explain further, or point to further reading 14:55:52 -!- sambio_ is now known as sambio 14:56:43 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-42-68.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:56:58 cl has copy-seq, copy-list etc.... 14:57:05 dunno about scheme 14:57:43 if that's what you were asking, or maybe i got you wrong, and you meant to use multiple-value-bind or so too.... 14:57:56 Sorry, but how would this return the extra values? 14:58:11 pcavs: write your own `map' that uses call-with-values ... ? 14:58:15 (map (lambda (x) (values #t 1)) '(1 2 3)) => (#t #t #t) 14:58:37 Okay, let me look those two guys up. Thanks all. 14:58:41 multiple values over a list of inputs is not concise enough, a list will already have multiple values, and mapping a func over them will ofc return multiple values, do you mean maybe something like multiple values for each element ? 14:58:54 wbooze: yes, sorry 14:59:15 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:00:10 ah ok then you have to bind them ... 15:01:13 valentin_ [~chatzilla@82.131.50.15.cable.starman.ee] has joined #scheme 15:03:40 -!- mmc1 [~michal@sams-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:05:32 -!- asumu [~at@2001:470:b:b7:1e6f:65ff:fe23:c3d4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05:41 asumu [~at@2001:470:b:b7:1e6f:65ff:fe23:c3d4] has joined #scheme 15:06:18 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-42-68.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:07:28 -!- sstrickl [~sstrickl@racket/sstrickl] has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 15:10:32 -!- ramrunne1 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asumu [~at@2001:470:b:b7:1e6f:65ff:fe23:c3d4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:59:04 rudybot: (define y (lambda (p) ((lambda (f) (f f)) (lambda (f) (p (lambda args (apply (f f) args))))))) 17:59:05 Do you understand the question? Definition of Y calls Y. It illustration of recursion rather than elimination of it! 17:59:05 ijp: your sandbox is ready 17:59:05 ijp: Done. 17:59:28 valentin: well, inside, yes. outside, no. 17:59:46 rudybot: ((y (lambda (factorial) (lambda (x) (if (zero? x) 1 (* x (factorial (- x 1))))))) 10) 17:59:46 ijp: ; Value: 3628800 17:59:54 look ma, no recursion 18:00:27 -!- choas [~lars@pD9FCD0EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:01:46 I do not ask to bring me correct combinator. I ask why a notable elaboration of Y combinator gives a recursion as example of its elimination 18:01:59 you know, I always thought the little schemers explanation of Y was longer than necessary, but that article takes the biscuit 18:02:21 valentin: because the guy doesn't know how to write? 18:02:41 turbofail [~user@38.99.37.210] has joined #scheme 18:03:11 no need to harp on about it though, mistakes happen 18:03:20 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:47 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:05:39 asumu [~at@2001:470:b:b7:1e6f:65ff:fe23:c3d4] has joined #scheme 18:13:17 -!- crundar__ [Jason@2001:18e8:2:28a6:55d8:d6be:9d2c:a39e] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:16:08 -!- sstrickl [~sstrickl@racket/sstrickl] has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 18:16:49 -!- peterhil` [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:17:26 well, it eliminates direct recursion by abstracting it to mutual recursion? 18:18:34 sort of pointless. but he does at least say it won't work in strict langs. 18:22:01 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:26:11 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-26-82.dynamic.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:31:27 -!- tupi [~david@139.82.89.98] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:31:41 dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has joined #scheme 18:31:41 -!- dan64 [dan64@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:7dc0] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:34:24 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:34:52 shakes808 [42eeaac2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.238.170.194] has joined #scheme 18:35:11 valentin: that's a universal fixed-point operator 18:35:25 it's *localizing* the recursion there 18:38:25 samth: It is "elimination" chapter. He says nothing about locaizaition. He shows *elimination* 18:38:54 ramrunner [~dsp@athedsl-4519004.home.otenet.gr] has joined #scheme 18:39:10 foof: btw, you are right that i was wrong to make things personal on scheme-reports -- totally wasn't my intention, & apologies for that 18:39:34 my bad1 18:39:35 ! 18:39:42 valentin: and he does so, eventually 18:42:10 excuse me, you are right. The chapter name is misleading 18:45:29 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-125-214.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:52 rabikaaan [4769ee99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.105.238.153] has joined #scheme 18:46:43 ijp: you said you thought TLS' explanation was too long; is there a treatment you thought was particularly good? 18:47:10 no, that's probably still the best one, but the schemer series in general can feel a bit long 18:47:41 okay. 18:49:48 Quadresce [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #scheme 18:50:11 I remember appreciating it when I was moving from imperative land, and I had to re-orient my brain. but as the realizations came faster, it did get tiresome at times. 18:50:46 -!- Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:53:01 I am the phantom menace!! 18:53:07 guys 18:53:16 anyone here a millinaire offa scheme apps? 18:53:20 I wana talk to you!! 18:53:26 scheme is 10x as productive as ruby right? 18:53:26 -!- pcavs [~Adium@63.139.127.6] has left #scheme 18:54:05 -!- Quadresce [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:54:16 rabikaaan: hi gavino 18:54:24 rabikaaan: how is sicp going? 18:56:08 is this one gavino? 18:56:13 I'm not so sure 18:56:14 copumpkin: might as well be 18:56:16 s/rabi// 18:56:26 copumpkin: i'm testing value not identity 18:56:34 :) 18:56:36 I am more powerful than any jedii!! 18:56:43 none shall dare oppose the empire and live!!! 18:56:52 rabikaaan: do you have anything useful to say? 18:57:03 do you? 18:57:10 nope, that's why I don't talk 18:57:19 *qu1j0t3* nods 18:57:27 *qu1j0t3* thinks that's a good rule 18:57:28 expres yourself!! 18:57:35 the earth is dying 18:57:47 -!- ChanServ has set mode +q *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.105.238.153 18:58:27 Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #scheme 19:01:05 Quadresce [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #scheme 19:03:29 -!- Quadrescence 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TLS? 22:16:15 how does it compare to TLML 22:19:31 copumpkin [~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 22:19:31 pumpkin [~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 22:19:33 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 22:19:33 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 22:19:54 -!- pumpkin is now known as Guest28134 22:20:19 -!- Guest28134 [~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:21:18 or is that to far off-topic? 22:21:33 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Quit: What happened to Systems A through E?] 22:26:59 -!- valentin [~chatzilla@82.131.50.15.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:28:55 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-181-196.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:51:08 -!- gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Quit: sleep] 22:56:36 *penryu* notes: "No ML questions in #scheme. Ruby questions not very productive either." 22:58:46 penryu: what /is/ TLML? 22:59:15 oh. The Little ML'er 22:59:26 *qu1j0t3* didn't realise there was such a thing. 23:06:11 Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has joined #scheme 23:09:53 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.39.195] has joined #scheme 23:09:53 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.39.195] has quit [Changing host] 23:09:53 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 23:21:10 -!- copumpkin is now known as pirateat28 23:23:39 -!- homie [~user@xdsl-78-35-189-107.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:23:41 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-189-107.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24:17 homie [~user@xdsl-78-35-128-150.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 23:24:33 -!- homie is now known as Guest51780 23:25:13 -!- pirateat28 is now known as copumpkin 23:28:46 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r190-135-6-87.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [*.net *.split] 23:29:58 heh. 23:30:59 I always figured it was just a simple port of TLL/TLS to ML.. but ML is even farther removed from classic lisp than scheme in some ways. 23:32:41 bfig [~b_fin_g@r190-135-6-87.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 23:35:01 penryu: well, yes. 23:35:03 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:35:09 penryu: TIL there is #sml here. 23:35:34 I should probably ask there, then. :) 23:35:39 *penryu* goes 23:35:51 -!- FreeArtMan [~fam@93.177.213.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:36:01 puny 48-user group. 23:36:10 but hey. we can't all be #haskell 23:36:42 penryu: I actually found "ML for the Working Programmer", "Applicative High-Order Programming" and such to be good texts. 23:37:26 and if you swing this way, "Computational Category Theory" uses ML for its exemplar language, though the book is a bit much for me. 23:39:09 I'm somewhat competent in ocaml and F# (and haskell, but that's another story), but I mostly wondered if TLML added any sort of socratic, ML-specific mind-reorientation like TLS does for Scheme. 23:39:45 TLH might be an interesting, if frightening, idea. 23:41:54 -!- youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:42:39 youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 23:45:55 yeah, a lot of the (cat_theory+comp_sci) papers/texts use ML or sometimes Haskell 23:46:07 jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-149-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:49:29 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #scheme 23:54:25 bogdano [~bogdano@189.115.84.159] has joined #scheme 23:54:32 -!- bogdano [~bogdano@189.115.84.159] has quit [Changing host] 23:54:32 bogdano [~bogdano@unaffiliated/bogdano] has joined #scheme 23:54:36 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:58:09 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:58:27 -!- bogdano [~bogdano@unaffiliated/bogdano] has quit [Client Quit]