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02:51:26 like 02:51:36 (foo 02:51:40 ... 02:51:47 . bar) 02:51:49 or like 02:51:51 (foo 02:51:52 ... 02:51:53 . 02:51:59 bar) 02:52:04 or other ? 02:52:52 hmm, I would consider both acceptable 02:53:09 i was pondering writing 02:53:12 (foo 02:53:14 ... 02:53:21 .bar) 02:53:42 I might slightly prefer the first one 02:53:44 but maybe people think that's hideous (?) 02:54:44 ok, i think i'll go for the first one, atm 02:54:50 ty 02:55:07 (any more opinions would be appreciated) 02:55:58 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:55:59 toastp [~toastp@c-76-104-189-93.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:56:35 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 02:58:36 The important point about list dots is that they have whitespace on both sides. 02:58:48 (i was missing advice on dotted lists in ) 02:59:28 ok 03:04:46 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.148.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:09:59 -!- Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has quit [Quit: (quit :reason 'sleep)] 03:13:19 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 03:16:50 toastp` [~toastp@c-76-104-189-93.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:17:03 -!- toastp [~toastp@c-76-104-189-93.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:17:04 -!- toastp` is now known as toastp 03:22:29 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 03:27:55 -!- dnolen [~user@rrcs-208-105-4-254.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:31:54 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:32:39 kvda [~kvda@202.58.240.18] has joined #scheme 03:36:03 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #scheme 03:37:53 lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 03:39:00 tertl3 [~tertl3@108-85-16-151.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 03:40:27 I'm looking at the scheme programs from the early 90s that go with the book lisp in small pieces. are "syntax-table-define" forms an old deprecated way of creating macros in MIT scheme? can they be translated straightforwardly into "define-syntax" forms? 03:41:56 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:44:34 -!- kvda [~kvda@202.58.240.18] has quit [Quit: x__x] 03:51:08 Dalek_Baldwin: looks like it. http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/ftpdir/scheme-7.4/macros.txt 03:51:26 I suspect you could even use syntax-rules for them if they're not too complicated. 03:53:41 they look more like common lisp macros 03:54:37 I'm coming at this book from more of a common lisp background and from what I've seen, define-syntax forms don't use backquote and unquote, but these syntax-table-define macros do 03:56:13 phao [phao@187.91.161.101] has joined #scheme 03:58:05 -!- tertl3 is now known as tert 04:01:55 Dalek_Baldwin: Yes, they're probably not hygienic either. 04:02:06 If you want to see what Scheme macros are like, you could look at http://www.scheme.com/tspl4/ 04:02:12 rrradical [~rrradical@c-50-137-77-177.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:02:37 -!- tert is now known as tertl3 04:02:46 dnolen [~user@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 04:13:19 shardz [~samantha@ilo.staticfree.info] has joined #scheme 04:19:06 ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 04:21:47 -!- Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@108-225-26-178.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:24:09 -!- jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has left #scheme 04:36:19 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:37:17 Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@71-84-33-22.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #scheme 04:38:50 -!- bigfg is now known as bfig 04:43:15 -!- antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: antithesis] 04:45:50 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-163-141.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 04:52:18 bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-52-145-144.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 04:52:27 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r190-135-6-53.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:52:28 -!- bfgun is now known as bfig 05:11:06 rbarraud__ [~rbarraud@222-155-139-54.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 05:11:16 -!- rbarraud_ [~rbarraud@222-155-139-54.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:15:35 disciple [~krishna@117.201.25.120] has joined #scheme 05:17:53 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 05:27:52 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-221-59.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31:07 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 05:31:23 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] has left #scheme 05:40:23 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:40:53 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 05:43:48 -!- dnolen [~user@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:52:00 -!- disciple [~krishna@117.201.25.120] has quit [Quit: zzzZZZ] 05:58:09 -!- rrradical [~rrradical@c-50-137-77-177.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03:51 disciple [~krishna@117.201.25.120] has joined #scheme 06:15:17 tertl4 [~tertl3@108-85-16-151.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 06:15:31 Is it alright for me to ask gambit-c specific questions here? I've been asking questions in #gambit for a while and It's completely dead 06:16:25 -!- tertl3 [~tertl3@108-85-16-151.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:16:30 I give you my permission 06:17:12 -!- disciple [~krishna@117.201.25.120] has quit [Quit: zzzZZZ] 06:18:05 -!- dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:18:10 Rofl, alright well I'm reading about the FFI, this in particular: https://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/doc/gambit-c.html#c_002ddefine_002dtype 06:18:11 http://tinyurl.com/bls3g9p 06:19:03 But I'm not massively clear on the difference between CFUN and SFUN macros, anyone with gambit-c experience, or better reading skills than I, who could expand a bit? 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I'll have a go over the weekend and check if our answers are suitably different :) 07:16:41 chturne: it only took about an hour to code from scratch this morning ;p amazing what sleep can do 07:17:28 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@91-157-48-51.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:39:27 disciple [~krishna@117.201.25.120] has joined #scheme 07:45:03 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:45:34 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 07:46:19 -!- ijp [~user@host81-159-126-25.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:51:58 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 07:57:31 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #scheme 08:15:52 -!- disciple [~krishna@117.201.25.120] has quit [Quit: zzzZZZ] 08:22:41 -!- tertl4 [~tertl3@108-85-16-151.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:26:27 Hi... could someone take a look at this code (wait just a mom) 08:26:52 disciple [~krishna@117.201.25.120] has joined #scheme 08:26:54 http://pastie.org/4341356 08:27:09 at line 223 I call (any #\@) 08:27:21 and it issues the error at line 214 08:27:41 should #\@ match that #\@ in the previous case "condition" at line 213? 08:27:54 oopsss! 08:27:56 ignore this =D 08:28:29 -!- toastp [~toastp@c-76-104-189-93.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #scheme 08:40:38 -!- disciple [~krishna@117.201.25.120] has quit [Quit: zzzZZZ] 08:43:35 ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 08:48:38 aha =) I think my regex matcher is working 08:50:14 -!- impaktor [~user@b2.thep.lu.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:54:11 pdponze [~pierre@37.0.45.7] has joined #scheme 08:54:41 -!- pdponze [~pierre@37.0.45.7] has left #scheme 08:56:37 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:56:50 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] 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Someone suggested a way better way! My rewrite in Scheme http://eval.ironscheme.net/?id=59 13:18:06 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:18:40 Ah, I'm refraining from looking. Still haven't tried yet! I suck. :) 13:21:44 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.137.154] has joined #scheme 13:23:00 It will probably help if you have an engineering math degree (something like systems and signals ;p) 13:23:24 Unfortunately I have never come across it 13:24:01 anyways, all that bit twiddling hurts my brain :) 13:25:33 oh fucking fuck AHAHAHA 13:25:42 her dad appears at 6:40 13:25:51 oh woops 13:25:54 wrong window 13:25:55 sorry 13:27:59 chturne: In hindsight I probably should not have mentioned (to the interviewer/CEO) that I done a bit of embedded coding. Most ARM chips supports bit-banding so one does not have to worry about all the bit fiddling 13:29:00 wingo [~wingo@193.144.61.240] has joined #scheme 13:36:58 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:45:07 leppie : why not return `0' (instead of `-1') when no lesser period is found ? 13:45:26 *ski* started looking without knowing what the problem was 13:46:20 ski: thats what the question specified 13:46:40 well, it's stupid, imho 13:47:19 the natural ordering on period lengths is a divisibility ordering 13:47:45 I agree, but it does not matter really matter what you return in that case 13:48:01 and there, `0' is the greatest element -- so if you can't find any other period, then `0' is not wrong, it's in fact also the minimal one then 13:48:36 *ski* is anyway rewriting the code at to look slightly more sane/readable 13:49:01 sorry, that was directly ported from a C# solution 13:55:48 -!- realitygrill 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last time lisppaste could function ;p 14:05:13 (under your username, i.e.) 14:06:07 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #scheme 14:07:02 * leppie pasted "binary-period" at 14:07:14 wth 14:07:19 who's the bot in here ? 14:07:28 lol 14:07:41 uups 14:07:44 wtf I solved th problem a year back? 14:07:46 sry wrong channel! 14:07:52 lol 14:08:37 oh good, it's not just me making that mistake :) 14:09:30 *leppie* feels being cursed from some #lisp channel 14:09:45 teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has joined #scheme 14:10:54 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:16:49 *ski* annotated "binary-period" with "replacing `-1' by `0', cleaning up recursion, a factoring, and some renamings" at 14:17:32 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-149-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:17:35 leppie : a year back ? 14:17:51 ski, that was a semi-joke ;p 14:18:07 because I DID not paste any such thing ;p 14:18:34 well, you did, at -- i just forwarded that to lisppaste 14:18:51 (and of course i wouldn't take the credit of having written your code ;) 14:19:04 no, was referring to the lisppaste quote ;p 14:19:29 oh, that's just fabricatino, in the absense of lisppaste announcing pastes 14:20:55 if it weren't for the early exit, we could use `do' nicely 14:21:03 -!- phao [phao@187.91.161.101] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:23:26 ski: I added the original C# solution if you want to tweak it more. 14:23:31 same as C really 14:23:41 expect without big num support 14:23:53 as we have in Scheme 14:24:49 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 14:26:48 hm, i suppose the original `BinaryPeriod(num)' fails if `num' is zero (?) 14:27:25 ski: N > 0 was a condition too 14:27:50 Me problem text: "Given a number N larger than 0 (range was given, but does not matter), find the minimum period of repeating bit sequences or -1 if none is found." 14:27:54 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