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I'm polling for an opinion on what the right definition _should_ be. 03:25:33 Same type, same value. 03:26:14 What's a type? 03:26:15 Well, in r5rs it's obj1 and obj2 are both numbers, are numerically equal (see =, section 6.2), and are either both exact or both inexact. 03:26:45 pjb: I know the R2, R3, R4, R5, R6 and current R7 definitions by heart. 03:26:58 Is there any need to change the definition from r5? 03:27:26 There is need to think about it. 03:28:40 You could want to make it more like cl:eql; in cl:eql it's same type, same value. So (cl:eql 1.0d0 1.0s0) -> NIL; but in r5rs (eqv? 1.0d0 1.0s0) would be true. 03:30:55 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-185-173.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 03:31:33 The R6 definition possibly implies that, depending on how promotion works. 03:33:00 i.e. if (/ 3.0d0) and (/ 3.0s0) return different results, then they must compare differently with eqv? 03:34:24 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:38:48 lcc_ [~lcc-pi@75-173-88-2.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 03:44:50 -!- fold [~fold@71-8-117-85.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:14:32 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:23:27 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:37:17 -!- lcc_ [~lcc-pi@75-173-88-2.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:37:33 lcc [~lcc-pi@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 04:45:40 -!- bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-52-184-82.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:46:29 bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-52-131-167.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 04:47:03 -!- b4283 is now known as b4284 04:48:03 haha, apple is reducing folders to a one-level hierarchy: http://informationarchitects.net/blog/mountain-lions-new-file-system/ 04:49:53 no doubt this will be touted as genius at first, gradually very important uses of multi-level hierarchies will be brought to light, until apple in all its brilliance invents the concept of putting a folder inside another folder! 04:51:51 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 04:53:42 -!- Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:54:24 -!- disciple [~krishna@117.207.96.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:56:57 -!- ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:57:18 disciple [~krishna@117.207.96.32] has joined #scheme 04:57:41 foof: just like in 1984. 04:57:48 We're trapped inside The Matrix! 04:59:00 That said, perhaps this time things will be different for the end users: instead of presenting her with predefined folders, we can present her with folders filled dynamically with documents selected upon various criteria. 04:59:14 After all, people thinking in structured ways are a minority. 04:59:24 The others are just masses of gray goo. 05:00:45 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 05:03:05 -!- offby1 [~user@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has quit [Quit: reboot tie] 05:03:10 On the other hand, the single feature I most never use in MacOSX is Spotlight. 05:03:17 But then, I'm a geek. 05:03:49 -!- rudybot [~luser@ec2-50-18-28-110.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:03:59 What's spotlight? 05:04:06 *foof* eyes his macbook suspiciously 05:05:01 See what I mean? :-) 05:05:20 rudybot [~luser@ec2-50-18-28-110.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #scheme 05:06:06 Anyways, it's been a long time now, that I don't keep my files on Mac file systems, but on Linux, with a NFS share. 05:06:10 Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has joined #scheme 05:06:44 I leave MacOSX deal with its own crap, and have my files safely tucked away on Linux. 05:08:31 offby1 [~user@ec2-50-18-28-110.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #scheme 05:08:34 -!- offby1 [~user@ec2-50-18-28-110.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Changing host] 05:08:35 offby1 [~user@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has joined #scheme 05:11:11 wise 05:12:42 But I'm about ready to ditch Mac altogether. Linux on a Surface might be nice. 05:16:56 ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 05:18:50 toastOpt [~toastOpt@c-76-104-189-93.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:22:39 -!- toastOpt [~toastOpt@c-76-104-189-93.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 05:23:00 toastOpt [~toastOpt@c-76-104-189-93.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:23:13 -!- toastOpt [~toastOpt@c-76-104-189-93.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #scheme 05:28:42 rbarraud_ [~rbarraud@222-155-139-54.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 05:28:58 -!- rbarraud [~rbarraud@222-155-139-54.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:30:04 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-31-226.dynamic.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:32:15 In my $HOME, I have subdirectories up to a depth of 26. 05:32:45 On my systems, there are probably deeper subdirectories. 05:36:45 phao [phao@177.174.6.155] has joined #scheme 05:37:21 toastp [~toastp@c-76-104-189-93.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:39:06 realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 05:41:42 good evening all 05:45:28 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:49:10 evening 05:49:28 heya 05:50:09 oh, there are people here :-) 05:50:30 pardon, have been away from scheme for a while 05:50:32 159 people to be exact =D 05:50:47 ... could be bots 05:51:00 =) 05:51:18 could be 05:51:40 r7rs seems to be making progress 05:52:11 yeah... 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seconds] 12:58:23 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 13:05:04 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 13:10:21 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-58-181.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:11:55 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-31-226.dynamic.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 13:14:32 untrusted [~user@stgt-5f71b2e9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 13:18:41 I'm wondering, about Rust, they complain that TCO has a performance issue (https://github.com/mozilla/rust/wiki/Bikeshed-tailcall) 13:19:02 are there such known issues with Scheme implementations? 13:24:53 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 13:29:06 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:32:02 dnolen [~user@cpe-69-203-204-197.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 13:36:18 -!- chu [~chu@unaffiliated/chu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:36:42 lcc: don't know about slimv. but you can easily do that with tmux (and screen) 13:37:14 lcc screen -X stuff 13:37:37 and for tmux it's something like tmux -L default loadb - && tmux -L default pasteb -t 1 13:38:03 of course you need to arrange your $(EDITOR) to put the marked text into the stein of the above cmdline. 13:38:33 you can also of course create a macro/command to invoke the above and bind it to a key stroke. 13:40:06 and of course you need to have screen/tmux "arranged" properly (with a repl running in one of the panes) :) 13:41:23 nowhere_man: I assume they either have no idea what they're talking about, or are referring to some particular implementation detail, e.g. in translating from rust->gcc using GCC's TCO. 13:43:47 leo2007 [~leo@123.114.43.4] has joined #scheme 13:45:59 foof: likely the latter (rust -> llvm) 13:46:14 they've got some big names :) 13:46:21 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:50:42 foof, two numbers should be EQV? if they are operationally indistinguishable. 13:51:09 foof, I ditched Mac OS X years ago and it's terribly frustrating to use it now. 13:52:51 Riastradh: That would imply two numbers are eqv? iff they are eq?. 13:52:52 Riastradh: what are your pain points? I'd love to know. I'm being surrounded with mac fanboys. 13:54:10 foof, so, if (/ 3.0d0) and (/ 3.0s0) return different results, EQV? should distinguish 3.0d0 and 3.0s0. If (log -1-0.i) and (log -1+0.i) return different results, EQV? should distinguish -0. and +0. 13:54:38 foof, no. The results of evaluating (expt 3 128) twice are usually not EQ?, but they are operationally indistinguishable. 13:55:00 You have to define operationally indistinguishable. 13:55:19 define definition 13:55:39 Well, yeah. It depends on what else you put in the standard. 13:56:16 Everything in there except EQ? and EQ-HASH (and maybe some other obvious exceptions) is `operational'. 13:56:45 What if an implementation has some non-standard extension that could make a distinction? 13:57:08 That falls outside the scope. 13:57:49 -!- danking_ is now known as danking 13:58:39 So in some implementations 0.0 and -0.0 are eqv?, and in some they're not. 13:59:01 Also, you may need a few exceptions of the other sort: NaNs may be operationally indistinguishable by what's in the standard but distinct by EQV? for obvious reasons. 13:59:11 Sure, foof. 13:59:16 And NaNs are never eqv?. 13:59:20 If you don't have signed zero, then they're indistinguishable... 13:59:24 No, two identical NaNs should be EQV?. 13:59:26 (Not =, but EQV?.) 13:59:49 Not by your definition. Any operation on them in the standard will produce the same result. 14:00:04 That's why I said `a few exceptions of the other sort'. 14:02:55 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 14:03:12 Sorry - by your logic NaNs can't be distinguinshed, so should be eqv?, but the R6 definition of operational equivalence is defined in terms of =, which will always be #f for NaN results. 14:03:38 Well, that's wrong. 14:03:49 There are many different NaNs in IEEE 754. 14:04:25 EQV? should distinguish them by bit pattern. 14:04:54 Even though nothing in the standard can distinguish the bit patterns? 14:05:03 Yes. 14:07:00 Meh, this can't make for a sensible definition. 14:07:20 Nothing in the standard can reliably produce those NaNs either. 14:08:58 (/ (log 0) (log 0)) maybe 14:09:12 Yes, but they exist, and the semantics of eqv? has to apply to them or explicitly say they're unspecified. 14:09:38 So if you take the R6 definition of operational semantics, then NaNs are always different. 14:09:38 For IEEE 754 implementations, if there is a way to get at the bit patterns, they should be distinguished. 14:09:44 Otherwise, it's a moot point. 14:10:04 (unless, of course, you have some other notion of NaN) 14:10:11 (which has other distinguishable characteristics) 14:10:20 OK, now we're talking letting back in procedures outside the standard. 14:11:08 Huh? 14:11:10 masm [~masm@bl18-58-181.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 14:11:31 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:11:32 The R6 definition only applies to arithmetic procedures in the standard. 14:12:54 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.131.223] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:13:41 *foof* wanders off 14:13:52 -!- keenbug [~daniel@p4FE38D9E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:14:54 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:15:49 *FurnaceBoy* wanders aimlessly 14:17:07 realitygrill 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18:11:52 ok that interview question sucked big time, was suppose to have come from the easy 'bin', but after 2 hours I still did not finish 18:12:14 nothing as easy as the bit gap question from the other day 18:12:18 jrslepak [~jrslepak@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 18:12:22 *ijp* got his copy of "the reasoned schemer" today :) 18:12:29 nice ijp 18:12:46 anyways, the problem is the 'bit period' problem 18:16:17 find the minimum period of repeating 'bit-sets' 18:16:36 so 110110100 => 3 , but so is 1101101 18:16:51 1110111 has no repeats 18:28:47 dropster [~Kim@0x3ec7b3f9.inet.dsl.telianet.dk] has joined #scheme 18:30:13 antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #scheme 18:31:27 hi 18:32:56 -!- vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@fsf/member/vu3rdd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35:32 leppie, is there another name for that problem? I don't fully understand the definition. "Bit period" brings up some rather nefarious results from my view of the Internet. 18:36:12 I dunno, that is what it is called on the piece of paper given to me :p 18:36:29 chturne: what dont you understand? 18:36:47 Why 110110100 => 3 18:37:13 110 110 11 oops fuck made a mistake 18:37:37 was meant to be 110110110 18:37:48 Ah 18:37:51 110110100 does not have any ;p 18:37:58 so sorry 18:38:01 np :) 18:38:24 so there has to be at least 2 repeating sets 18:38:59 and the trailing set is allowed to be a subset (sub sequence rather) of it 18:39:13 yes, let's use sequence, better word than set 18:39:14 -!- dropster [~Kim@0x3ec7b3f9.inet.dsl.telianet.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:40:55 the input number N was specified to be 1 - 1 billion, but I guess it can be any number > 0 18:41:06 if not result found, return #f or -1 18:41:54 i made a silly interpretation mistake again, and tried to get the longest repeating sequence... only discovered the fault an hour later :( 18:42:33 Easily done :) 18:42:52 the mistake or the problem ? ;p 18:43:25 Oh, the mistake :) -- I'll file the problem away for a quiet Sunday afternoon. 18:43:46 conceptually the problem is not so hard, but coding it gets tricky with shifts and bit masks 18:44:31 Oh and the solution should run in O(log N) time where N is the input number 18:44:58 Yeah, that's quite a big hint for an approach I guess. 18:46:10 Shouldn't shoot my mouth off before trying it out! 18:46:12 *chturne* parks 18:46:36 Turns out the solution I have in mind does it in O(C x log N) but C is undetermined for now, need to see if it depends on N 18:46:55 worst case sample 111111111111111111111111110 18:47:14 or not 18:47:30 101010101010101010101011 18:47:32 Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has joined #scheme 18:48:59 brb need to reboot, sensing a system lockup 18:49:06 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-165-161.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [] 18:51:36 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-165-161.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 18:53:33 disciple: thanks so much :-) 19:05:41 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-141-210.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:05:41 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-31-226.dynamic.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:18:37 turbolent [~bastian@turbolent.com] has joined #scheme 19:23:07 -!- imphasing [~Alex@97-81-65-25.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:26:40 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 19:26:54 imphasing [~Alex@97-81-65-25.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #scheme 19:28:02 ijp` [~user@host81-159-126-25.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 19:29:53 -!- ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:31:01 -!- ijp [~user@host81-159-30-38.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:38:43 yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 19:39:12 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 19:41:49 why does the little schemer tell you to define atom? 19:42:10 yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 19:43:58 'atom?' 19:48:40 because otherwise it will not be available on your scheme system 19:53:46 well, it may be :) 19:53:52 #;1> (atom? 1) 19:53:55 #t 19:56:05 Disclaimer: any and all advice from ijp is strictly for entertainment purposes only. Any similarity between the advice given and reality is strictly coincidental. 19:56:39 *FurnaceBoy* steals ijp` 's disclaimer 19:57:09 -!- ijp` is now known as ijp 20:03:17 phao [phao@187.117.205.176] has joined #scheme 20:06:34 -!- antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: antithesis] 20:08:25 *FurnaceBoy* steals ijp 20:08:44 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-163-141.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:12:35 eni [~eni@217.21.147.77] has joined #scheme 20:17:46 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:20:49 -!- r126f [~ruwin126@120.142.67.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:26:30 -!- phao [phao@187.117.205.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:28:13 r126f [~ruwin126@120.142.67.254] has joined #scheme 20:31:09 -!- disciple [~krishna@117.201.25.120] has quit [Quit: over & out] 20:34:26 -!- chturne [~chturne@host86-148-233-236.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:36:21 dropster [~Kim@0x3ec7b3f9.inet.dsl.telianet.dk] has joined #scheme 20:36:37 -!- dropster [~Kim@0x3ec7b3f9.inet.dsl.telianet.dk] has left #scheme 20:36:50 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:37:01 haha 20:37:04 funny 20:41:29 -!- Guest67510 is now known as dawtcawm 20:41:58 -!- dawtcawm is now known as Guest17288 20:42:21 -!- Guest17288 [~dibbish@173.230.139.35] has quit [Changing host] 20:42:22 Guest17288 [~dibbish@unaffiliated/pushp0p] has joined #scheme 20:42:24 -!- Guest17288 is now known as pushp0p 20:44:08 i see 20:44:14 so u want to add support for aroms 20:44:16 atoms 20:44:21 u just define it 20:44:39 little schemer is strange book 20:44:40 so far 20:45:06 -!- pushp0p is now known as dawtcummz 20:45:15 well not exactly. it might be predefined, that's all. the point of the exercise is no doubt to show how it might be defined. 20:45:16 no paragraphs? 20:45:27 and to underline the definition of an atom 20:45:38 but scheme doenst use atom anymore 20:45:44 what on earth do you mean? 20:45:54 atom as a keyword 20:46:05 we're talking about the predicate 'atom?' 20:46:14 which is certainly used and may even be predefined. 20:46:34 (it is in CHicken Scheme, for example) 20:47:17 ok 20:47:48 i think the point of the exercise is to reinforce what 'atom' means 20:47:57 oh ok 20:48:02 i see what u mean now 20:48:10 its a unit 20:48:16 fundamental unit in scheme 20:48:21 yes 20:48:25 hence the name ;-) 20:49:06 hehe 20:49:16 *tertl3* getting lost in the metaphysics 20:49:23 ok k i get it 20:49:37 i need to plow through this book tonight 20:49:38 -!- Guest3265 is now known as tdammers 20:50:08 -!- tdammers is now known as Guest1308 20:50:48 thanks FurnaceBoy 20:55:00 yw tertl3 20:59:27 -!- tertl3 [~tertl3@108-85-16-151.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:09:56 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-58-181.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:11:50 phao [phao@187.117.243.156] has joined #scheme 21:13:37 -!- eni [~eni@217.21.147.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:14:04 eni [~eni@217.21.147.77] has joined #scheme 21:18:22 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:20:46 huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has joined #scheme 21:27:05 -!- lcc [~lcc-pi@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:38:43 -!- eni [~eni@217.21.147.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:48:00 phao_ [phao@187.91.161.101] has joined #scheme 21:48:05 -!- phao [phao@187.117.243.156] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:28 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-31-226.dynamic.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 21:54:12 Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@71-84-33-22.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #scheme 22:09:04 francogrex [~user@109.130.82.223] has joined #scheme 22:09:41 define-syntax sucks. give me back the defmacro 22:11:41 I meant define-macro 22:15:04 DEFINE-MACRO is fundamentally broken. 22:17:26 lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 22:17:35 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:17:42 which implementation still uses it? 22:19:22 by define-syntax sucks, do you mean "syntax-rules" sucks 22:20:07 -!- ray [ray@xkcd-sucks.org] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:22:34 yes basically 22:22:48 anyway, maybe it doesn't really suck, 22:22:56 well for complicated macros I'd agree 22:22:57 I'm just not used to it 22:23:23 I prefer the good old defmacro 22:24:24 I cannot in good conscience recommend defmacro, but syntax-case may be more to your liking 22:24:48 ok I will look into it 22:25:15 http://blog.racket-lang.org/2011/04/writing-syntax-case-macros.html 22:27:28 good link thanks. 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