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That's why I refuse to use them and would advise you not to. 01:11:00 peterhil [~peterhil@91-157-48-51.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 01:11:33 But the point in this case, is that there's no let inside the if. Therefore that if can have no effect on the following forms. 01:13:14 I don't follow why there'd need to be a let inside the if. 01:13:15 since there's an expression after the if form, and since the if form has no side effect, it's dead-code. A good compiler would warn you that it is ignored. 01:13:50 (define (example) (+ 1 2) (* 3 4) 42) What does that function (example) return? 01:14:08 oh right. 42 01:14:11 the last expression 01:14:14 Right. 01:14:32 What do the + and * forms do? 01:14:44 they'd evaluate but not get used 01:15:04 No, they don't even need to be evaluated: the compiler can remove it, since they're useless. 01:15:45 since they don't have any side effect, and their values are not used. 01:16:55 that's assuming the compiler is "smart", isn't it? but yeah I see your point 01:17:05 Yes. 01:17:06 re-local defines: can you use let bindings for procedures? 01:17:30 Sure: (let ((next (lambda (str n state) ))) (next str n state)) 01:17:42 or you can use letrec if the procedure is recursive. 01:18:10 Now, your code has other problems. While you're a newbie, I would advise you to consult r5rs about each function you use. For example, about eq? http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-9.html#%_idx_216 01:18:11 http://tinyurl.com/6hr3jb 01:25:00 oh right, eq? is object equality 01:25:10 which works for symbols 01:25:13 Yes. 01:26:02 Characters and numbers could be copied, so they may not be eq? even if eqv?. 01:26:22 http://pastebin.com/73bAg3jL 01:27:19 That looks better. Does it work? 01:27:40 seems to reject the right things 01:27:48 Good, then. 01:29:56 thanks for the help. I am thinking I might use racket for a fromal methods project I have coming up. 01:31:54 -!- ivan\ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:34:38 a finite automata DSL would be pretty nifty. hmm.. 01:35:33 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:39:07 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:39:39 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 01:41:48 -!- Arbamisto [~Arbamisto@67.197.37.202] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:45:02 -!- lewis1711 [827b6016@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.123.96.22] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46:39 -!- Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has quit [Quit: (quit :reason 'sleep)] 01:54:11 -!- zmv [~zmv@186.204.123.135] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:58:09 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-31-226.dynamic.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:13:48 ivan\ [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined #scheme 02:20:47 rrradical [~rrradical@c-50-137-77-177.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:22:20 -!- dnolen [~user@pool-96-224-18-75.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:26:28 elderK [~k@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk] has joined #scheme 02:26:30 FurnaceBoy: Hey! 02:26:57 elderK: ola 02:27:26 :) How's it going, man? 02:27:31 Casino software, ay? :) 02:27:34 and Mobile backends? 02:27:51 What exactly is that, btw? Is that for routing the communication or is it for software that runs on the phones? 02:27:59 If I use letrec to define a helper function in the body of a main function, is the helper function redefined every time I run the main function? I'm thinking I'd get better performance by defining helper functions globally? I'm using gambit in case it's implementation dependant. 02:28:21 my hunch is: it's not redefined 02:28:32 at least, not in any way that will slow you down. 02:28:36 is there any way to test it? 02:28:41 of course 02:28:52 write a loop, run it a ziliion times both ways; see if one is faster 02:28:57 betcha there's no difference 02:28:59 haha, okay 02:29:04 thanks, I'll try that 02:29:06 -!- rbarraud_ [~rbarraud@222-155-139-54.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:29:13 elderK: the server side application that the client applications talk to , e.g. via an API 02:29:16 if you can't tell the difference then you shouldn't worry about it. Premature optimization and all that. 02:29:23 rrradical: It depends on the implementation, afaik. 02:29:33 Most implementations will hoist it out, if necessary. 02:29:39 It's really unlikely it'll be redefined every single time it's used. 02:29:47 If you're really worried though, you can hoist it a bit yourself. 02:29:50 ie: 02:30:12 (define func-using-recursive-subfuns 02:30:13 (letrec ..... 02:30:13 (lambda (args ...) 02:30:13 ....))) 02:30:18 Ah, I gotcha FurnaceBoy :) 02:30:27 We've been doing some stuff like that to do with "online ordering." 02:30:41 SOAP stuff, smart phones send us orders through the 'net. 02:31:26 Okay, thanks for the tips. I'll benchmark it and see what happens 02:32:04 :) rrradical: If you're super worried, you can "lambda lift" it yourself. 02:32:41 Btw, it's a neat function I saw in a clojure book but couldn't find a scheme equivalent for: ((comp number->string - +) 10 12 3.4) => "-25.4" 02:33:04 rudybot: ((compose number->string - +) 10 12 3.4) 02:33:06 *offby1: your sandbox is ready 02:33:06 *offby1: ; Value: "-25.4" 02:33:09 *offby1* whistles innocently 02:33:21 well, not in gambit anyway :P 02:34:18 I wonder if r7rs will include it... 02:43:10 wow, it is slower (in gambit) 02:48:18 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-ad03a5e7.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 03:03:31 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 03:15:17 rrradical: you can write it yourself 03:15:34 it isn't difficult 03:15:59 ijp: yes, I did. 03:20:20 -!- Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@108-225-26-178.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:22:28 -!- wbooze 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[~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 07:22:45 are there any examples of 2 schemes with the same name? 07:23:47 Arafangion [~Arafangio@220-244-108-23.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #scheme 07:25:24 adu: like guile 1.x and guile 2.x or gambit and gambit-c? 07:27:30 time for chibi-2 07:27:31 *certainty* hides 07:34:50 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.13.128] has joined #scheme 07:34:51 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.13.128] has quit [Changing host] 07:34:51 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 07:38:49 -!- arbscht [~arbscht@fsf/member/arbscht] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:38:57 disciple` [~user@117.201.24.32] has joined #scheme 07:39:21 -!- disciple` [~user@117.201.24.32] has left #scheme 07:40:55 -!- Axioplase [~Axioplase@218.201.120.153.tokyo.global.crust-r.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:41:07 hmm 07:41:56 Axioplase [~Axioplase@218.201.120.153.tokyo.global.crust-r.net] has joined #scheme 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simple case handling right now, but I can copy the full case-handling from my old lib 14:25:33 the challenge is keeping the tables small 14:26:04 and the full case-handling is already just a small number of exceptions 14:26:23 needs clever data structures 14:26:50 see lib/scheme/char/case-offsets.scm 14:26:57 "unicode demystified" - highly recommended for these things 14:27:50 adu [~ajr@pool-108-45-79-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 14:28:10 disciple: I already implemented Unicode for Chicken and general case handling for a number of Schemes. This time I was just trying to make it smaller. 14:28:21 what are those extra large numbers? 14:28:34 bitvectors ;) 14:28:39 ah. 14:29:37 I could combine the two maps into one if it's ok for the less common upcase to be a little slow. 14:30:04 anyway, must sleep now 14:30:39 -!- ssbr_ [~ssbr@python/site-packages/ssbr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:30:39 foof: timezone? 14:30:47 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-108-45-79-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 14:31:15 Japan 14:31:29 good night then. 14:32:30 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 14:34:08 -!- dnolen [~user@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:34:29 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:36:02 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-142-148.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:40:26 -!- pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-4d06741a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:44:49 rrradical 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has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:02:04 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-165-161.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [] 19:04:12 leppie's problem makes me think of the 2-egg problem. 19:04:42 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-165-161.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 19:07:01 leppie, your O(N) solution to the interview question is a loop over the bits of the number, right? 19:07:29 if you consider the n in O(f(n)) to be the input number, then that loop is really O(log n), no? 19:15:54 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:15:54 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-141-210.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:18:06 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-31-226.dynamic.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:18:37 -!- hash_table [~quassel@128.249.96.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:19:07 -!- getpwnam [~ian@128.249.96.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:20:05 leppie: I think the idea is, if you've found a sequence already of length x, then if you know there's a 1 coming up in less than x bits, you don't need to check everything in between 19:21:40 so you can divide up the input so that you can tell roughly how far away a 1 might be, and prune those recursions that can't possibly give a longer sequence 19:24:11 -!- em [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:29:02 weinholt: yes that is my O(N) solution 19:29:51 rrradical: That is an idea too, like string search like BM based on the previous longest match 19:30:05 but that does not gaurentee O(log n) 19:30:31 best case O(log n) I think. they want worst case O(log n)? 19:31:20 yes, worst case, and also O(1) space 19:32:07 weinholt: I dont understand the second one ;p 19:34:42 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:35:51 leppie: looks like you're losing track of what n is 19:35:54 leppie, if your input to the algorithm is the number n, and your time complexity is a function of that number, let's say f(n), then a straight loop over the bits of n means your time complexity is O(f(n))=O(log n) 19:36:43 n is the number, N is bit count (from what I remember) 19:36:44 i would expect an O(n) solution to do a loop from 0 to n :) 19:37:06 I need to clarify that, I will email the guy tomorrow 19:37:09 alright 19:37:18 if that is the case, then it is easy ;p 19:43:26 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:43:49 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 19:45:52 keenbug [~daniel@p4FDB7448.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:46:18 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:48:10 adiii [~adityavit@c-68-34-169-68.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:49:27 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 19:55:47 arcfide [~arcfide@c-174-63-147-172.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:57:48 -!- antithesis 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to me obvious that the N in O(N) is the number of bits, not 2^N = O(n). 20:31:01 http://graphics.stanford.edu/~seander/bithacks.html may be useful. 20:36:48 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44:08 jao [~user@206.Red-88-0-164.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 20:44:24 -!- jao is now known as Guest60021 20:45:51 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 20:53:56 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-163-116.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:55:19 so they want a solution logarithmic in the number of bits? 20:56:20 jrslepak: I will clarify tomorrow 20:57:24 (but then they put an upper bound on the number of bits...) 20:59:41 leppie, use a giant lookup table. :) 21:00:06 weinholt: space requirement is O(1) else I would ;p 21:00:17 a shame 21:00:20 em [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has joined #scheme 21:00:49 eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has joined #scheme 21:01:00 leppie, actually, the table is of constant size, so it's O(1) ;) 21:01:00 I have 16GB, and would probably need 62GB for that 21:01:27 Cowmoo [~Cowmoo@cambridge-vxty.basistech.com] has joined #scheme 21:02:06 any ways, off to sleep, all this thinking is making me tired, and it might be for nothing ;p 21:02:09 No, you'd need only 4 GB, for a 32-bit number. Actually since n is between 1 and 2^31 you'd need only 2GB. 21:03:08 oh yes, brain shutting down 21:03:40 writing scheme on paper was hard enough today ;p (fun exercise though) 21:06:40 hm, given CamelCase and snake_case, what-is-this-called? 21:06:42 -!- getpwnam [~ian@128.249.96.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:06:57 hyphenated-case? 21:07:01 correct style 21:07:02 wingo [~wingo@191.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com] has joined #scheme 21:07:32 ski: actually, I've never heard anyone call it snake_case before 21:08:24 i hadn't heard the term before today either. it's mentioned at . i've no idea how prevalent it is 21:09:46 -!- drdo [~drdo@roach0.drdo.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:12:40 -!- DKordic [~DKordic@178.222.100.228] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:15:20 drdo [~drdo@roach0.drdo.eu] has joined #scheme 21:16:26 *jrslepak* was amused to hear of dromedaryCase and BactrianCase 21:21:07 -!- wingo [~wingo@191.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com] has quit 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