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Lightning talks. 00:17:08 jrslepak_neu [~jrslepak@punchout.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 00:18:33 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:19:57 foof`: thanks for the 'apply' fix, the program passes all tests now 00:20:03 here it is btw https://github.com/tizoc/chibi-shen/ 00:21:28 is it related to the shen programming language? 00:21:54 Fare: yes, it is a port that runs on top of chibi 00:22:41 other ports are, clisp, sbcl, clojure and javascript 00:24:39 nice 00:25:04 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-110-78.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:25:52 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-110-78.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 00:27:15 sporous [~sporous@antispammeta/bot/irssi/sporous] has joined #scheme 00:27:28 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 00:29:51 tizoc, nice. Is there a page with a link to all the ports? 00:36:11 Fare: not really, but it should 00:36:39 Fare: the nearest thing is http://shenlanguage.org/download/download.html 00:43:45 -!- arcfide [~arcfide@c-69-136-24-18.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: EPIC5-1.1.3[1656] - amnesiac : Help! The paranoids are out to get me!] 00:45:35 tizoc: what, in a sentence, is nice about shen? 00:48:11 foof`: Interesting (optional) type system based on sequent-calculus, pattern matching (prolog-style) and embedded YACC-like and prolog-like languages. 00:48:54 foof`: I haven't found it too practical yet (mainly because the implementations are not mature enough yet, there is no defined FFI, etc), but it is fun to use 00:49:37 foof`: do you remember the Qi language ? 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Actually, I'm probably going to just make case-lambda an alias for match-lambda* which should in fact make it faster :) 02:03:58 chu [~chu@unaffiliated/chu] has joined #scheme 02:04:10 foof: oh I know, I made good use of the match library when implementing the translator from shen to scheme :) 02:04:41 Chibi's type inference could use some more work though. 02:10:38 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 02:16:12 mark_weaver [~mhw@209-6-91-212.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 02:19:20 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD603E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:23:10 -!- Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has quit [Quit: (quit :reason 'sleep)] 02:23:21 -!- b4284 [~b4283@122-117-157-82.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:26:29 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 02:27:09 b4283 [~b4283@122-117-157-82.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has 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I started with clojure but feel like sticking with whatever was recommended in teh book 17:17:43 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@128-68-160-193.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:17:48 there's another book 17:17:57 which is a companion or so 17:18:07 -!- acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-33-83.gmavt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:18:19 sstrickl [~sstrickl@racket/sstrickl] has joined #scheme 17:21:37 anfab: Racket or MIT would be the obvious choices 17:23:28 jcowan: thanks..another follow up qn.. would this be a good choice? http://racket-lang.org/ 17:23:56 Yes, that's Racket. 17:24:39 -!- b4283 [~b4283@114-47-13-159.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25:09 jcowan: thanks..let me try that..hope it has some good ide support 17:25:34 It comes with a built-in IDE, DrRacket 17:25:54 jcowan: great! thanks a lot 17:27:30 -!- ijp [~user@host31-52-22-49.range31-52.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:29:13 peterhil [~peterhil@91-157-48-51.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 17:29:26 cdidd [~cdidd@89-178-11-22.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 17:37:41 anfab: I cut my teeth on MIT, on the other hand; which lacks the dazzling array of superfluous dialects. 17:38:09 That's good, I think, from a learning point of view: no paradox of choice, few distractions. 17:39:54 OTOH, Racket has a SICP-specific dialect IIRC 17:41:43 DKordic [~DKordic@77-46-171-173.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #scheme 17:41:53 saccadewrk_ [saccadewrk@nat/google/x-akfxpswhgkufpjyw] has joined #scheme 17:42:42 -!- saccadewrk_ [saccadewrk@nat/google/x-akfxpswhgkufpjyw] has quit [Client Quit] 17:43:40 -!- DKordic [~DKordic@77-46-171-173.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Client Quit] 17:45:47 DKordic [~DKordic@77-46-171-173.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #scheme 17:47:26 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-160-121.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:50:30 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 17:54:09 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:57:09 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 17:58:56 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@5.34.19.24] has joined #scheme 17:58:56 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@5.34.19.24] has quit [Changing host] 17:58:56 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 18:01:49 yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 18:03:18 lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 18:14:20 -!- woonie [~woonie@175.156.195.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:20:48 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-31-226.dynamic.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:21:18 eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has joined #scheme 18:21:39 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: bye!] 18:25:05 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 18:31:30 jcowan: is that something I can choose from the languages option in the racket ui? 18:31:43 I think so, but GOogle is probably your friend here. 18:32:12 jcowan: okay..was just being lazy 18:32:31 You may also need to load some file. 18:32:51 okay..let me google that 18:39:52 choas [~lars@p4FDC5DE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 18:47:02 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 18:48:31 found something.. adding this line #lang planet neil/sicp and running downloads it 18:49:37 -!- whitedawg [~suraj@122.179.63.140] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:49:38 anfab: that sounds about right :) good luck 18:50:25 leppie: thanks..pretty excited about doing the entire sicp book 18:56:31 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:59:47 -!- jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has left #scheme 19:05:40 -!- tupi [~david@139.82.89.157] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:06:33 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6016D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:10:49 -!- abel [~austin@ool-4577ba80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:11:06 abel [~austin@ool-4577ba80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 19:11:39 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 19:15:30 -!- peterhil` [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:18:39 -!- abel [~austin@ool-4577ba80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:20:18 untrusted [~user@stgt-5f71ae49.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 19:20:26 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 19:21:54 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-141-210.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:22:36 anfab: Don't stop before chapter 5; people say SICP ends at chapter 4, but we know better. 19:23:20 klutometis: alright, I've heard it is pretty dense 19:23:31 any idea how long it might take to finish this? 19:25:26 mmc1 [~michal@178-85-66-32.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 19:25:39 anfab: It's a good summer project, if you don't have anything else going on; if SICP, on the other hand, has to compete with a job or full-time school, give yourself a year. 19:26:54 klutometis: I have a job. But a year!! must be much more denser that what I expected 19:27:22 I naively was planning for a couple of months 19:28:40 anfab: If you are sufficiently motivated, it's not impossible. It would help, though, if you had a little social accountability: other people attempting the same thing. 19:28:46 SICP in a couple months is an athletic undertaking. 19:29:31 Maybe you can coöpt #scheme as a social context to help keep you motivated through the various levels of SICP-purgatory. 19:29:40 klutometis: it was pretty much a guess 19:29:50 yeah, planning to stick around here :) 19:29:58 Sorry, that's a little grim. 19:30:04 anfab: Good stuff; get started, then! 19:30:38 klutometis: started at excercise 1.2 now 19:30:44 klutometis: started at excercise 1.2 now 19:31:25 btw, I have a unrelated question here.. do ppl get to use scheme in real projects on their jobs? 19:41:31 abel [~austin@ool-4577ba80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 19:44:20 -!- Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:46:37 -!- Arbamisto [~Arbamisto@67.197.37.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:47:09 -!- tcleval [~funnyguy@187.114.156.192] has quit [Quit: 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