00:02:37 arcfide, the theory is great. still i can't grasp the idea see for example here http://pastebin.com/3qnhH9L7 00:04:32 someb: try PLAI (http://www.cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Books/ProgLangs/) it has a section on continuations 00:04:48 someb: What do you expect that code to return? 00:07:42 They're like goto but with capture of the environments. 00:11:40 asumu, i'll check it 00:11:53 arcfide, i don't know what to expect! 00:12:01 -!- b4283 [~b4283@114-47-13-200.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15:14 -!- jrslepak_neu [~jrslepak@punchout.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:16:32 -!- someb [~someb@82.201.219.40] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:16:48 jrslepak_neu [~jrslepak@punchout.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 00:28:11 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-134-164.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 00:36:17 -!- arcfide [~arcfide@c-69-136-24-18.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: EPIC5-1.1.2[1638] - amnesiac : jedi knights do it with force] 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makes mistakes :P 02:20:46 that was quick 02:20:49 thanks 02:27:51 imphasing [~Alex@97-81-80-39.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #scheme 02:29:55 youlysse` [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 02:32:21 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 02:36:17 -!- juanfra [juanfra684@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-fxtkduzfigutesoa] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6] 02:40:02 -!- youlysse` [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:40:34 youlysse` [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 02:48:42 -!- DGASAU [~user@91.218.144.129] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:05:30 ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 03:12:31 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.78.199] has joined #scheme 03:12:32 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.78.199] has quit [Changing host] 03:12:32 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has 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I need one which can format a string and return a string as in (format #f "This is a ~a." `test) 04:24:31 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-110-78.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 04:24:37 -!- kephas [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-54-171.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:25:09 *shrug* 04:25:20 cdidd [~cdidd@128-69-29-214.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 04:25:24 I think there's a SRFI that contains that function. Look in yer SRFI collection 04:25:30 I don't use gambit-C so I can't be any more specific 04:27:26 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:27:26 -!- getpwnam [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:27:48 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:30:01 -!- tali713 is now known as tali713` 04:30:25 -!- Axiom [42eb2f73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.235.47.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:30:37 -!- tali713` is now known as tali713 04:39:34 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 04:44:15 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.80.17] has joined #scheme 04:44:15 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.80.17] has quit [Changing host] 04:44:15 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 04:45:13 lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 04:45:14 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-26-224.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:50:32 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-165-149.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 05:02:24 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:06:02 -!- bfgun is now known as bfig 05:07:51 huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has joined #scheme 05:08:10 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 05:09:04 sdgnij [ad3932b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.57.50.182] has joined #scheme 05:10:46 Hi, I am writing a function that takes 3 inputs and returns the sum of the squares of the largest 2 - http://codepad.org/V6w8QdAT - Is there a reason nothing is outputted? 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09:24:18 yes (though personally i've never done so). google for lisp and vim maybe? 09:24:25 ok, thanks 09:28:23 lcc: you can also clean the Augean Stables with a toothbrush. 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I never knew it had a clean-stables function. 11:19:03 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:19:28 If it hasn't you can easily write such a command. 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12:50:18 There might be a Clojure job for me, lack of spec makes me worry :| 12:50:43 perl also has no spec ;) 12:50:52 Linux has no spec 12:51:05 (even if small parts of it attempt to conform to POSIX) 12:51:20 xml, on the other hand, has lots of specs 12:51:27 surely the ABI has a spec? 12:51:54 yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 12:52:04 Hah.. yes. 12:52:10 But knowing the Linux ABI spec doesn't get you very far. 12:52:20 ABI tells you that if you know a syscall number, then you know how to call it 12:52:51 Linux is not really a programming language though 12:53:05 Ditto anything else :) 12:53:33 getpwnam [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 12:54:23 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 12:54:34 -!- Natch [~Natch@178.73.212.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:54:42 so I guess the best to learn Clojure is just to start at the 'getting started' docs and work down 12:54:56 it does have some weird stuff compared to Scheme ;p 12:59:20 -!- chu [~chu@unaffiliated/chu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:02:42 imphasing [~Alex@97-81-80-39.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #scheme 13:04:47 antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #scheme 13:08:50 samth: thanks! 13:13:02 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 13:16:32 even more worrying than the lack of specification (but same cause), is the lack of alternative implementation. 13:17:57 And of course, the fact that the language changes at each new release is bad, if you want to use it in an enterprize. 13:18:19 With Scheme or Common Lisp, you have stable standard, several implementations, and new features CAN be implemented as libraries. 13:18:31 You can't find a better situation. 13:18:45 pjb: surely you're joking 13:18:55 No, dead serious. 13:19:37 The scheme language changes only fron rnrs to r(n+1)rs, every few years. Other languages change from version 5.1 to version 5.2 every few months. 13:19:47 Common Lisp doesn't change. 13:20:09 and it doesn't need to change: you can write any extension you want as libraries 13:20:20 That are ensured to run in all implementations since the language doesn't change. 13:20:32 joast [~rick@98.145.85.206] has joined #scheme 13:21:05 pjb: writing actual applications for the specified version of scheme is basically impossible/pointless 13:21:18 the staticness of CL is hardly a virtue 13:21:23 xwl [~user@123.108.223.31] has joined #scheme 13:21:29 samth: the keyword in all I said is: LIBRARIES. 13:21:39 samth: it is a virtue. 13:21:54 and your claim about extensibility is false -- how would you add something like Racket's event system as a "library"? 13:21:55 and also, it doesn't prevent implementations to provide extensions. All do. 13:22:12 I don't know it. 13:22:22 But with continuations you can implement anything. 13:22:51 Or did they implement their event system in another language than scheme? 13:22:55 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:22:55 -!- getpwnam [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:22:56 once you have implementations providing extensions, you're just giving up 13:23:24 the event system is part of the runtime system, which like most runtime systems is not implemented in a high-level language 13:23:35 The point is that extensions and evolution is not made by the standard: you have a common and stable base, and then libraries and optional extensions. 13:24:01 samth: really? Most CL implementations are written in CL, and if they use C, it's only to interface with unix. 13:24:21 what's a transformation halfway between non-transformed and log-transformed (ln in this case)? 13:24:22 pjb: i doubt that -- what's the gc and thread system written in? 13:24:46 I wrote my GC in CL of course. I don't know about other implementations. 13:26:26 samth: troll ... food ... not ... 13:26:34 eli: indeed 13:26:54 ah, square root works fine :) 13:27:12 There's no reason to write the GC in C. See for example Squeak, it's entirely written in Smalltalk. 13:27:44 Even the part that translates to C for bootstrapping. 13:28:00 pjb: Please stop that. 13:28:26 Why? I see no argument why GC should be written in a different language. 13:30:20 pjb: You are not contibuting anything useful at the moment, you're promoting a language and a view that is not popular here, and that's unrelated to GC implementations, even. In short, you're trolling. 13:30:24 So please stop trolling. 13:31:49 eli: calling him troll is nonsense 13:32:24 eli: at least he pointed out his view, you either answer the argument or leave it 13:32:50 b4283: He points out his views often enough that there's no need for him to point out his views. 13:33:33 AFAIR, it's the first time I'm talking about GC here. 13:38:26 eli: Smalltalk is not popular here? 13:39:00 And that's not the question. The implementation strategy is the question. 13:39:21 ecraven: No, it's the other language that he keeps coming back to. 13:39:51 pjb: You know damn well that the GC talk wasn't the issue that I was talking about. Stop doing this childish evasive maneuvers. 13:40:10 eli: ah, thanks 13:40:11 I'm sorry I wrote my GC in CL, not in Scheme. But it's free software, you can use it as you wish, including translating it into Scheme. 13:41:09 (And if you'd ask, instead of making it a personal matter, I'd even say that it's probably easier to write low level code in Scheme than in CL). 13:42:04 but pjb... you're not a scheme programmer. why bother with this channel? 13:42:29 As a lisper, I include scheme in the lisp family. I know scheme, even if I don't use it. 13:42:47 s/know/"know"/ 13:44:25 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60102.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 13:44:43 -!- gabot [~eli@racket/bot/gabot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44:49 -!- dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:45:01 gabot [~eli@racket/bot/gabot] has joined #scheme 13:52:36 yoklov [~yoklov@67.221.95.140] has joined #scheme 13:53:06 ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 13:54:12 -!- ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has quit [Client Quit] 13:54:52 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@67.221.95.140] has quit [Client Quit] 13:57:40 dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 13:57:48 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:08:45 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 14:09:12 soegaard [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has joined #scheme 14:09:30 soegaard_ [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has joined #scheme 14:09:30 -!- soegaard [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:09:31 -!- soegaard_ is now known as soegaard 14:09:39 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-167-236.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:14:58 prototrout [836b004a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.0.74] has joined #scheme 14:16:07 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 14:16:50 eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has joined #scheme 14:17:52 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-148-123.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:23:30 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.12.66] has joined #scheme 14:23:30 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.12.66] has quit [Changing host] 14:23:30 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 14:24:13 slucx [~lumpy_wx@221.5.81.158] has joined #scheme 14:25:22 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:26:48 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Client Quit] 14:32:53 jrslepak [~jrslepak@pool-108-20-108-155.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 14:47:07 -!- soegaard [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has quit [Quit: soegaard] 14:47:32 kvda [~kvda@124-168-164-242.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #scheme 14:56:06 getpwnam [~ian@128.249.96.123] has joined #scheme 14:56:56 hash_table [~quassel@128.249.96.123] has joined #scheme 14:57:24 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:02:21 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@pool-108-20-108-155.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:03:43 I'm told that cdddr and pals have been moved to (scheme cxr). chibi doesn't appear to have that (yet?). is there some secondary source I need to build to get things like that? 15:05:44 dtm` [~dtm@adsl-67-121-157-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 15:06:12 -!- kvda [~kvda@124-168-164-242.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: x___x] 15:06:35 sethalves: chibi's latest dev has (scheme cxr) 15:06:55 if you're using the 0.5.3 tarball then cdddr hasn't been moved yet 15:07:06 i'm pulling from hg... sec let me find the url 15:07:19 https://code.google.com/p/chibi-scheme/ 15:07:22 is that wrong? 15:07:23 -!- pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07:54 that's right 15:08:37 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-165-149.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:09:17 foof -- in /usr/local/lib/chibi/scheme/ i see only time.dylib 15:09:20 should I see more there? 15:10:17 yes 15:10:35 okay, i'll try a clean checkout and build 15:11:31 pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 15:11:45 -!- pjb is now known as Guest20634 15:12:22 foof -- a clean checkout followed by make and then make install -- I see nothing about cxr anywhere in there 15:12:33 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 15:13:52 ponk:chibi-scheme seth$ grep -rl cxr . 15:13:54 ponk:chibi-scheme seth$ 15:13:56 -!- Guest20634 is now known as pjb` 15:14:09 -!- pjb` is now known as pjb 15:15:28 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-199-72.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 15:15:49 oops... I never committed that - it's there now :) 15:15:59 haha as i suspected. thanks 15:18:27 foof -- code is there now, but doesn't install 15:18:59 -!- dropster [~Kim@port284.ds1-oebr.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #scheme 15:19:22 jrslepak [~jrslepak@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 15:20:19 oh -- maybe you still need to commit ./lib/scheme/cxr.scm ? 15:20:41 no 15:20:43 sethalves: maybe you need to hg update? 15:21:10 I just tested a fresh checkout and it installed fine. 15:21:38 nm, user error 15:21:41 it's working fine 15:21:43 thanks again 15:21:59 typing-before-coffee 15:22:08 np 15:22:16 I need to sleep now though... 15:22:50 chu [~chu@unaffiliated/chu] has joined #scheme 15:33:48 Natch [~Natch@178.73.212.231] has joined #scheme 15:39:29 realitygrill [realitygri@nat/hackerschool.com/x-ryxdbpshwkdtxypg] has joined #scheme 15:40:25 -!- Spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:41:00 jewel [~jewel@196-210-141-210.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 15:41:41 -!- dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:46:51 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 15:47:40 confab [~confab@public-nat2.arc.losrios.edu] has joined #scheme 15:48:31 arcfide [~arcfide@c-69-136-24-18.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:53:00 -!- acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-33-83.gmavt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:53:51 Spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #scheme 15:57:36 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 16:00:11 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 16:13:47 -!- eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:21:45 -!- prototrout [836b004a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.0.74] has quit [Quit: bye] 16:30:05 -!- slucx [~lumpy_wx@221.5.81.158] has quit [Quit: ] 16:30:37 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #scheme 16:33:19 abel [~austin@ool-4577ba80.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 16:40:25 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 16:40:52 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-199-72.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:45:28 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-165-170.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 16:55:56 -!- b4283 [~b4283@114-47-13-200.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:03:42 acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-33-83.gmavt.net] has joined #scheme 17:06:28 -!- confab [~confab@public-nat2.arc.losrios.edu] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:09:13 choas [~lars@p4FDC4AC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 17:11:14 soegaard [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has joined #scheme 17:14:41 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-165-170.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:15:07 -!- amoe [~amoe@host-78-147-146-98.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:16:33 -!- githogori [~githogori@c-50-131-15-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:17:25 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18:35 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 17:19:55 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-199-72.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 17:27:31 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 17:31:26 -!- soegaard [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has quit [Quit: soegaard] 17:34:38 fold [~fold@71-8-117-85.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #scheme 17:35:10 beaky [~beaky@92.96.99.125] has joined #scheme 17:35:18 what's the notation for empty list in mit-scheme 17:38:30 it's not '() ? 17:38:36 or (list) ? 17:39:12 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:39:46 it seems to be () 17:45:58 -!- beaky [~beaky@92.96.99.125] has left #scheme 17:46:04 -!- teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:47:14 or ((lambda x x)) 17:47:25 -!- ijp is now known as cluckbot 17:47:34 ((lambda lambda lambda)) ;p 17:47:41 teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has joined #scheme 17:48:24 bfig [~b_fin_g@r186-48-196-16.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 17:48:24 -!- cluckbot is now known as ijp 17:50:04 samth: impossible? (for r6rs) no, pointless? seems that way 17:50:12 tonyg [~tonyg@173-203-78-111.static.cloud-ips.com] has joined #scheme 17:50:37 there's a reason basically everyone who attempts it gives up 17:50:58 ijp: is this wrt the r6rs-discuss mailing list? 17:51:11 yoklov [~yoklov@c-76-127-240-20.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:51:13 leppie: i don't know, I haven't read it in a while 17:51:56 leppie: this is regarding my annoying earlier argument w/ pjb 17:51:59 -!- peterhil` [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:52:06 ohh :) 17:52:20 It turns out that the new unit of time measurement for software is lifespans of dogs: "Scheme," therefore, "appeared almost three dogs ago." 17:52:24 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:53:13 klutometis: a dog being 13 years? 17:53:35 leppie: According to Troy Hunt, only 10 years: . 17:53:36 http://tinyurl.com/7bj4ees 17:53:44 He must be referring to certain toy breeds. 17:54:01 leppie: Almost four dogs*; whoops. 17:54:23 klutometis: hehe, 3.7 more accurately. Same age as me ;p 17:54:30 Heh 17:55:07 another clojure disturbance: Unable to resolve symbol: lambda in this context 17:56:30 leppie: Ouch; I actually wrote a clojure module to allow lambda and  in place of fn: . 17:57:00 klutometis: how would you write ((lambda lambda lambda)) in Clojure? 17:57:12 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 17:57:16 It wasn't totally well received by the "community," shall we say. 17:57:18 Hmm. 17:57:42 sorry for asking such hard questions ;p 17:58:30 leppie: I don't think you can, because fn requires a vector: ((fn [fn] fn)), maybe? 17:58:42 Not quite the same; untested, too. 17:59:16 Scheme lambda are unique because of the optionally destructuring arguments, I think. 17:59:53 eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has joined #scheme 18:00:09 Wrong number of args (0) passed to: sandbox8946$eval8958$fn 18:00:40 perhaps language designed by democracy is not such a good idea ;p 18:00:48 Oh, right; hmm, let me actually fire it up. 18:01:08 leppie: Clojure has so many corner cases taking up neural real-estate, that I've had to stop using it for serious work. 18:01:49 and yet it has the masses using it. like the new php 18:04:36 Oh, christ; is it really that popular now? 18:05:22 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 18:05:22 carleastlund [~cce@gotham.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 18:08:20 leppie: Looking at , the closest approximation to that pun might be ((fn [] (fn))). 18:09:00 There's also ((fn fn [] (fn))) 18:09:41 I'm sorry: ((fn fn [] fn)) works fine. 18:09:49 The former results in stack overflow. 18:10:29 It works for totally different reasons than the Scheme pun, though, and is also not as beautiful. 18:11:04 -!- tonyg [~tonyg@173-203-78-111.static.cloud-ips.com] has left #scheme 18:19:31 lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 18:23:22 realityg1ill [realitygri@nat/hackerschool.com/x-kkngpzozrshhtfhf] has joined #scheme 18:23:42 -!- realitygrill [realitygri@nat/hackerschool.com/x-ryxdbpshwkdtxypg] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:28:23 realitygrill [realitygri@nat/hackerschool.com/x-ppklybrijjrksvny] has joined #scheme 18:28:36 -!- realityg1ill [realitygri@nat/hackerschool.com/x-kkngpzozrshhtfhf] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:29:50 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:35:24 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@c-76-127-240-20.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 18:39:14 soegaard [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has joined #scheme 18:43:08 prototrout [836b004a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.0.74] has joined #scheme 18:43:46 let's say I want to create a new directory with chibi... 18:46:08 oh there's create-directory in (chibi filesystem) 18:46:10 nur 18:46:12 oops 18:50:28 -!- eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:51:19 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 18:52:10 Axiom [42eb2f73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.235.47.115] has joined #scheme 18:52:11 hello 18:52:33 Yes! Ballot submitted. Phew! 18:52:34 What's the inverse of the quote operator? An operator that de-quotes a quoted literal? 18:52:46 I tried unquote and that was not what I was looking for 18:53:04 Axiom: What do you mean by de-quote? 18:53:12 I have '(8) and want 8 18:53:20 ... 18:53:21 eval 18:53:30 You have a list containing 8 and you want a number 8? 18:53:31 er 18:53:37 car ? heh 18:53:43 It started out as '(meters 8) and I did (cdr v) which resulted in '(8) 18:53:47 amoe [~amoe@host-92-24-170-38.ppp.as43234.net] has joined #scheme 18:53:50 cadr 18:54:04 Axiom: What are you trying to do? Deconstruct a list? 18:54:19 try this: (cadr '(meters 8)) 18:54:21 You think I only need a cadr instead of cdr? Maybe that's so... 18:54:26 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:54:29 or: (car (cdr '(meters 8))) 18:54:30 I assumed I would get '8 18:54:34 The `quote` syntax can be thought of a turning off the evaluator for a given expression, resulting in a datum instead. 18:54:54 jesusito [~user@88.pool85-54-115.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #scheme 18:54:55 if it helps, '(meters 8) is about the same as (list 'meters 8) 18:55:26 Which is the same as (cons 'meters (cons 8 '())). 18:55:44 if think you've got to be getting pretty fancy to notice a difference 18:55:53 same as ((lambda lambda lambda) 'meters 8) 18:56:12 sethalves: It's actually pretty easy to notice a difference. You cannot reliable set-car! or set-cdr! anything in the '(meters 8) version. 18:56:26 so fancy! 18:56:32 leppie: That's just mean. :-) 18:57:11 oh wow 18:57:32 It was, in fact, that the 8 was in a list. I didn't even realize that, thinking the problem was related to quote. thanks 18:57:34 arcfide: strangely enough, I think of quote as: (define (eval form env) (cond ((atom? form) ) ((eqv? 'quote (car form)) (second form)) )) and nothing else. 18:57:47 s/second/cadr 18:58:24 pjb: That's not quite true. :-) 18:58:41 githogori [~githogori@216.207.36.222] has joined #scheme 19:01:11 How so? 19:01:19 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:02:24 random_malice [~ian@128.249.96.123] has joined #scheme 19:02:55 bro_grammer [~quassel@128.249.96.123] has joined #scheme 19:04:16 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 19:05:31 -!- hash_table [~quassel@128.249.96.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:05:31 -!- getpwnam [~ian@128.249.96.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:05:48 mmc1 [~michal@178-85-66-32.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 19:07:38 -!- antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: antithesis] 19:20:58 lcc [~lcc-pi@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 19:30:53 -!- soegaard [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has quit [Quit: soegaard] 19:35:20 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r186-48-196-16.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:38:39 soegaard [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has joined #scheme 19:40:16 -!- prototrout [836b004a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.0.74] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:43:42 fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-87-19.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #scheme 19:51:01 -!- wingo [~wingo@49.pool80-102-222.dynamic.orange.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:53:19 leppie: That's my new favorite identity function (after `values'). 19:54:19 Whoops; not quite identity. 19:54:31 `list', I guess. 19:55:04 yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 19:59:44 Fare [fare@nat/google/x-duuuitbswnjmsukt] has joined #scheme 20:00:30 rbarraud [~rbarraud@125-237-76-181.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 20:01:59 -!- soegaard [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has quit [Quit: soegaard] 20:03:32 soegaard [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has joined #scheme 20:03:37 bfig 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vector-append '(1 2 3 4)) 20:35:00 stamourv: error: raise-type-error: position index is 1, but only 1 arguments provided 20:35:20 klutometis: There's a bunch of interesting identity functions. 20:35:32 stamourv: Oh, interesting. 20:35:41 I remember a student finding an especially twisted one, but I forget what it was. 20:36:01 Everything's an improper list, which makes for interesting degenerate cases. 20:37:15 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r186-48-196-16.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:17 bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-48-232-11.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 20:37:19 soegaard [~soegaard@188.183.250.62] has joined #scheme 20:42:07 -!- ijp [~user@host109-150-111-148.range109-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: The garbage collector got me] 20:44:36 -!- axe_wielder [~ian@128.249.96.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:45:08 -!- hash_table [~quassel@128.249.96.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:54:57 -!- Riastradh 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part of it perhaps. the truth is that i program harder, not smarter. 23:28:32 sethalves: fixed 23:29:24 foof -- did you see the thing about (port? "\n") ? 23:29:36 sethalves: yes, that's fixed to 23:29:41 cool, thanks! 23:29:47 do you not get mail when I close the bugs? 23:29:58 oh i only send email, i never check it 23:29:59 tizoc: it may be a problem with chibi's apply 23:30:23 tizoc: I'd probably not bother fixing it if it were just case-lambda 23:30:51 I have to go. 23:32:55 foof: Damn; all this hate for case-lambda. sjamaan has a similarly low opinion of it. 23:34:14 sethalves: these are all very shallow bugs, the problem is that I made changes in exception handling when I don't have any test suite for exceptions - all the existing tests pass 23:35:59 oh yes -- most seem like "nobody tried that yet", rather than hard bugs 23:36:08 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 23:39:39 -!- jesusito [~user@88.pool85-54-115.dynamic.orange.es] has left #scheme 23:40:17 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:45:18 tizoc: *sigh* it's a problem with apply, I'll have to fix it tomorrow 23:49:33 sorry was afk 23:49:47 foof: yes, I had an alternative without case-lambda but that still uses apply and had the same problem 23:49:52 -!- arcfide [~arcfide@c-69-136-24-18.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: EPIC5-1.1.2[1638] - amnesiac : jedi knights do it with force] 23:50:02 (alternative for an implementation of curried lambdas) 23:59:44 -!- githogori [~githogori@216.207.36.222] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]