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I'm gonna go say some nonsense in #scheme that nobody will reply to" 03:43:07 well its friday 03:43:11 bisty altina driving over 03:43:14 then food n fukin 03:43:27 good to know 03:43:34 after nice day of netapp and archlinux and aolserver tcl and some mysql 03:43:44 Im watching oreilyl vs coulter !!! I love em both 03:43:57 well ur one postulating IM sitting around watching porn 03:44:10 but hey I am watchign some as I youtube and surf around for fun stuff 03:44:26 so hey you conjectuured and I told you whats up 03:44:27 :) 03:44:36 heh 03:44:43 feisty aint i? 03:44:56 hey ima polytheistic objectiveist whoas anti irael and pro geoism 03:45:00 totally. 03:45:02 sciene is my weapon 03:45:08 and I am a true forward 03:45:17 able to play way out on the perimiter or inside 03:45:20 oh yeahehah!! 03:45:29 It would be a pretty useless sort of e-commerce that you only make thousands of dollars from, but hey, to each his own King Charles's head. 03:45:34 anyway, can we try to stick to scheme talk in here (and preferably not "OMG SCHEME IS AWESOME AND I'M GONNA WRITE THE BESTEST WEBAPP IN IT") 03:46:04 Yakka foob mog. Grug pubbawup zink wattoom gazork. Chumble spuzz. 03:47:17 chaotic_good: BLISTER EBAB FORGOON! 03:48:08 jcowan: oh no, you have been gavinized! 03:49:06 you guys spaeking like hungarian? 03:49:09 :) 03:49:21 english is my language and I am a published writer 03:49:29 notHardly sysHungarian butMaybe appsHungarian ifPossible 03:49:40 hek Robert E Howard 03:49:52 is still being read almost 100 years after he wrote 03:49:57 thats awesome 03:49:57 Was a dirtly little coward and doesn't he think he's brave 03:50:18 For he ate Jesse's bread and he slept in Jesse's bed and he laid Jesse James in his grave 03:50:25 OOGL BLERP 03:51:38 *offby1* thwaps jcowan on the back 03:52:02 That, sir, is a quotation from _Danny Dunn and the Homework Machine_, the first story about a computer I ever read. 03:52:14 I seem to recall reading Danny Dunn stories way back when. 03:52:24 "... and the Smallifying Machine" is the only title that comes to mind 03:52:37 michael moorcock awesome too 03:53:34 musta been brand-new when I read it. 1969! Why, that was just yesterday. 03:54:36 Spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #scheme 03:56:57 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:00:08 In this one, the machine starts to make obvious mistakes and eventually begins to print gibberish. 04:00:20 Danny diagnoses overheating in the CPU and that fixes it. 04:00:59 We're all published writers here: see the topic line 04:18:07 -!- woonie [~woonie@175.156.195.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:20:16 xwl [~user@123.108.223.31] has joined #scheme 04:26:54 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 04:28:31 ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 04:30:38 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:31:09 -!- getpwnam [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:33:18 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/] 04:36:48 woonie [~woonie@175.156.195.38] has joined #scheme 04:44:37 -!- imphasing [~Alex@97-81-80-39.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:44:57 imphasing [~Alex@97-81-80-39.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #scheme 05:02:34 kniu [~kniu@198.134.88.61] has joined #scheme 05:18:17 -!- jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:18:29 arbn [~arbn@pool-74-98-200-128.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 05:19:50 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.114.39.62] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.1.1] 05:20:10 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-174-192.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 05:32:36 -!- kniu [~kniu@198.134.88.61] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:33:47 -!- SN0W [~SN0W@unaffiliated/sn0w] has left #scheme 05:40:28 -!- arbn [~arbn@pool-74-98-200-128.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:41:15 leo2007 [~leo@123.114.39.62] has joined #scheme 05:41:21 kniu [~kniu@198.134.88.61] has joined #scheme 05:51:56 -!- abel [~austin@ool-4577ba80.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:03:49 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 06:10:19 -!- kniu [~kniu@198.134.88.61] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:12:14 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-174-192.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:26:01 -!- kudkudyak [~user@94.72.156.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:31:05 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-182-67.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 06:32:52 -!- ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:38:14 -!- fold [~fold@71.8.117.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:43:54 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-11-96.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 06:48:49 ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 07:01:25 lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 07:03:39 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 07:14:35 -!- chaotic_good [~g@pool-108-13-142-14.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:14:35 choas [~lars@p4FDC5731.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 07:26:23 -!- rjj [~randall@108-80-22-5.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:29:11 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:36:17 __dict__ [~jake@c-24-22-211-63.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:37:20 <__dict__> Hello. I'm having trouble getting geiser to work. 07:38:17 <__dict__> Trying to evaluate a function always gives me "No Geiser REPL for this buffer (try M-x run-geiser)" 07:40:37 <__dict__> Hmm, perhaps 1am on a Friday night is not the best time to try asking here 07:41:32 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 07:43:18 __dict__: in other parts of the world it is almost 10am ;p but sorry I can't help 07:52:40 -!- ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:55:46 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:58:52 antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #scheme 07:59:45 araujo [~araujo@190.73.45.171] has joined #scheme 07:59:45 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.45.171] has quit [Changing host] 07:59:45 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 08:04:29 <__dict__> leppie: Don't be ridiculous 08:04:51 sorry :( 08:06:44 -!- bipt 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possible only in unusual implementations". 19:49:56 I would prefer if it didn't in the where one was an infinity, but yes 19:49:59 What kind of implementations would those be? 19:50:35 ijp: What would you like (max 1 +inf.0) to return, if not +inf.0? 19:50:53 jcowan: that wasn't quite the use case I was thinking of 19:51:22 Kawa actually has signed exact infinity and signed NaN, but no other implementation does. 19:51:25 jcowan: I was meaning, +inf.0/-inf.0 can't be used as identities for min and max respectively 19:52:18 chaotic_good [~g@pool-108-13-142-14.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 19:54:15 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 19:56:52 By identities, you mean what is returned if there are 0 arguments? 19:57:05 yes 19:57:35 Anyway, no one has a guess about the meaning of that quoted phrase? The best thing I can come up with is a system in which inexact numbers are represented as exact-number bounds. 19:57:46 and also (min 1 +inf.0) => 1.0 19:58:14 whereas I would prefer 1 19:59:26 jcowan: Is this language in R6RS? 19:59:32 Yes, it is. 19:59:37 Interesting. 20:00:23 ijp: Does that mean you would prefer (min 1 2.0) => 1? 20:02:39 ideally yes 20:03:03 though as this becomes more difficult to enforce with larger inexact numbers, I'd settle for special casing infinity 20:03:43 actually, my interpretation doesn't actually conflict with the wording, it's just not done in practice 20:04:08 I'm confused. 20:04:35 The wording is that (min exact inexact) is inexact. What do you mean by "difficult to enforce"? 20:04:55 it was a poor choice of wording on my part 20:05:22 You mystify me further 20:06:34 I'll drop the subject 20:08:18 jcowan: Ah! 20:08:54 Ah? 20:09:05 I think I got a clue. 20:10:11 I think it's talking about cases where treating the inexact number as something else does not change the answer. 20:10:52 -!- mgs is now known as ol 20:11:03 -!- ol is now known as mgs 20:11:45 jcowan: The last part of the note in R6RS about raising an implementation restriction warning, is that also in R5RS? 20:11:57 Suitably fuzzed? 20:12:44 No. 20:13:09 Interesting. 20:13:28 I wonder if any R6RS implementation actually takes that option. 20:13:42 I don't think I've ever seen it 20:14:06 jcowan: What about complex numbers? 20:14:58 Max and min make no sense for complex numbers 20:15:53 That's what I just figured. 20:15:55 All of Racket, Guile, Chez, Vicare, Ypsilon, Mosh, IronScheme return +inf.0 rather than raising an implementation restriction. 20:16:18 For what? 20:16:37 to (max x 1.0) where x is larger than 1+e308 20:16:51 and exact 20:18:43 Oddly, in Ypsilon (inexact->exact +inf.0) => 179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805500963132708477322407536021120113879871393357658789768814416622492847430639474124377767893424865485276302219601246094119453082952085005768838150682342462881473913110540827237163350510684586298239947245938479716304835356329624224137216. 20:18:46 Go figure. 20:18:58 -!- b4283 [~b4283@114-47-13-171.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:26:13 wow. 20:26:20 well, now we know. 20:27:07 rudybot: (define infinity 179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805500963132708477322407536021120113879871393357658789768814416622492847430639474124377767893424865485276302219601246094119453082952085005768838150682342462881473913110540827237163350510684586298239947245938479716304835356329624224137216) 20:27:08 ijp: your sandbox is ready 20:27:08 ijp: Done. 20:27:20 rudybot: (= infinity (+ infinity 1)) 20:27:20 ijp: ; Value: #f 20:27:21 nice 20:27:30 I think ypsilon broke maths 20:28:14 -!- FurnaceBoy is now known as qed 20:28:56 ijp: LOL 20:29:08 ijp: you thought of the same thing i did. 20:29:49 dedekind must be rolling in his grave 20:30:19 This is why we can't have nice things. 20:30:21 -!- fuzz [~fuzz@2001:6b0:1:1041:563:c91f:6432:2eef] has left #scheme 20:34:05 -!- soegaard [~soegaard@0x5733f4b2.abnxx12.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: soegaard] 20:40:08 arcfide: trac.sacrideo.us is unresponsive 20:41:46 gabnet [~gabnet@ACaen-257-1-86-188.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 20:50:54 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:57:43 -!- antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: antithesis] 20:58:14 -!- qed is now known as FurnaceBoy 20:58:31 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 21:04:24 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.147.173] has joined #scheme 21:09:07 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-11-96.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:09:48 -!- arbn [~arbn@pool-74-98-200-128.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:28:18 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:29:57 -!- gabnet [~gabnet@ACaen-257-1-86-188.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 21:30:29 Hurray, 53 tickets on the ballot, 53 open tickets (other than editorials and Formal Comments) in Trac. 21:32:31 sacro.ili.ac 21:33:08 -!- fold [~fold@71-8-117-85.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:33:51 rudybot: what say you? 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