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The problem is that when I tried to run any of the programs in Dr. Racket, they all had errors. Can you help? Here is the ftp link with all the programs: ftp://anarres.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/scheme/ 08:06:05 hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 08:10:53 mhr_: to save whoever helps you time, you might want to pastebin the errors you got. 08:11:20 okay, I'll be back soon with the pastbin links 08:12:42 -!- hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:13:19 hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 08:19:18 -!- hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:20:36 hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 08:20:39 antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #scheme 08:24:11 *pastebin 08:24:12 I set the language to r5rs database.scm had no errors http://paste.lisp.org/+2SNB functions.scm match.scm had no errors pronounce.scm had no errors http://paste.lisp.org/+2SNA simply.scm http://paste.lisp.org/+2SNC spread.scm ttt.scm had no errors 08:25:11 this is more readable: 08:25:12 I set the language to r5rs, database.scm had no errors, http://paste.lisp.org/+2SNB functions.scm, match.scm had no errors, pronounce.scm had no errors, http://paste.lisp.org/+2SNA simply.scm, http://paste.lisp.org/+2SNC spread.scm, ttt.scm had no errors 08:26:18 dan64 [~dan64@dannyadam.com] has joined #scheme 08:26:18 -!- dan64 [~dan64@dannyadam.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:26:28 -!- hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:27:57 hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 08:30:56 I'm going to bed, but I'm leaving my computer on, if you have the solutions to the errors in the programs, please don't hesitate. Thank you for helping! 08:33:46 -!- hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:33:47 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 08:34:54 hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 08:41:31 -!- hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:42:38 hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 08:42:41 poisonarms [~poisonarm@cpe-70-116-22-88.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 08:48:20 -!- hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:49:55 hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 08:52:33 dan64 [~dan64@dannyadam.com] has joined #scheme 08:52:33 -!- dan64 [~dan64@dannyadam.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:53:00 mhr_: It looks like they try pretty hard to avoid endorsing a specific Scheme; I wonder if you wouldn't have better luck, however, with MIT/GNU Scheme. 08:53:03 Just a guess, though. 08:55:48 -!- hive-mind 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seconds] 11:24:59 ffs [~garland@unaffiliated/ffs] has joined #scheme 11:25:34 masm [~masm@bl18-39-140.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 11:37:16 -!- gremmachook [u1735@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hfwnpzbdswmrgcfp] has left #scheme 11:42:21 -!- wingo [~wingo@89.131.176.233] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:48:39 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.114.34.241] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.1.1] 11:56:30 wheres a good place to start learning macros for scheme? 11:57:04 oleg's website =D hehehe 11:57:45 j/k... not that I think it's a bad place, but I am not sure if that's a good starting place 11:58:02 madmuppet006, tried "Teach Yourself Scheme in a Fixnum Days" ? 11:58:16 phao: not so far 11:58:32 realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 11:58:51 Well... I had really good insights while reading parts of that book 11:58:54 I know theres more than one way to do scheme macros .. just want to learn one ..:) 11:58:54 and iirc, it teaches macros 11:59:32 TSPL also does that, and gives good examples of how they can be used. 12:00:20 Im trying to write my own cond procedure .. I asked here how to go about it and was told to look at macros 12:00:31 yes 12:00:41 well, look at these two books 12:00:47 they will SURELY teach you how to do such thing 12:00:56 I know for a fact that TSPL will, because I've read it already 12:01:07 -!- bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-52-130-24.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:01:14 it's freely available on the web 12:01:24 look for the scheme programming language 12:01:26 tspl? not sure on that one 12:01:43 the 3rd edition is for r5rs iirc 12:02:03 thanks phao 12:02:06 The Scheme Programming Language - TSPL 12:02:14 it's a pretty good book btw 12:02:18 cool I got it ... 12:02:26 and easy to read... it'd not hurt reading it entirely 12:02:45 250pgs also... small 12:02:52 gtg 12:02:59 np thanks 12:03:03 -!- madmuppet006 [~chatzilla@122-62-124-247.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]] 12:13:28 -!- poisonarms 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