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of a string represented as a list of elements separated by 1 space and the print the easily ina new order, perhaps sorted? 10:22:26 ASau` [~user@93-80-193-34.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 10:25:41 chaotic_good, http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-13/srfi-13.html#string-tokenize 10:26:23 -!- ASau [~user@95-26-55-149.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:28:12 how hard is it to read in a file, then tokenize? 10:28:47 tcl is failing me it cant even slect say 13 1st and 2nd elements since they are next to each other 10:28:50 LAME 10:29:11 I am printing out scores from NBA game as an exercise. 10:29:49 player stats 10:36:55 mvuets [~mvuets@95.154.250.228] has joined #scheme 10:46:12 dzhus [~dzhus@95-28-239-49.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 10:46:29 -!- chaotic_good [~g@pool-173-60-202-188.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:49:48 leo2007 [~leo@221.223.42.203] has joined #scheme 11:05:32 woonie15 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I wonder if there is a resource like http://www.4clojure.com/ but about Scheme? 12:57:15 Basically a collection of exercises so I can learn and try Scheme by practising. 12:58:13 SICP 12:58:18 the little schemer 12:59:31 Those are books. And I'm looking for some real tasks that I may solve using the language. 13:00:07 You know, like projecteuler.net but not oriented just to math. 13:00:16 jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has joined #scheme 13:02:40 imphasing [~Alex@97-81-80-39.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #scheme 13:02:48 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-65-10.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #scheme 13:02:48 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-65-10.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Changing host] 13:02:48 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 13:03:16 mvuets: there's Code Kata 13:03:23 mvuets: also google code jam and practice problems 13:03:41 __rahul__ [~rahul@59.178.56.195] has joined #scheme 13:03:47 rahul_ [~rahul@59.178.56.195] has joined #scheme 13:03:50 mvuets: but most motivating of all, i find, is some practical problem of your own 13:04:29 the nice thing about SICP is it teaches programming as well. 13:08:57 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 13:09:32 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:10:00 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:10:00 -!- snizzo [~Claudio@158.110.154.151] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:10:00 -!- dzhus [~dzhus@95-28-239-49.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:10:00 -!- sizz [~sizz@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:10:00 -!- rudybot [~luser@ec2-50-18-28-110.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:10:00 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-35-196.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:10:00 -!- jrslepak_neu [~jrslepak@punchout.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:10:08 qU1j0t3: thanks! And indeed agree on SICP (-: 13:10:14 sizz [~sizz@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 13:13:10 DGASAU [~user@91.218.144.129] has joined #scheme 13:16:08 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 13:16:08 snizzo [~Claudio@158.110.154.151] has joined #scheme 13:16:08 dzhus [~dzhus@95-28-239-49.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 13:16:08 rudybot [~luser@ec2-50-18-28-110.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #scheme 13:16:08 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-35-196.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 13:16:08 jrslepak_neu [~jrslepak@punchout.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 13:16:12 mvuets: here's another source of problems. http://programmingpraxis.com 13:16:17 la la la 13:16:17 *rudybot* bows deeply before his master, inventor of incubot 13:17:49 mvuets: for small ones, there are the L-99 problems; and here are some similarly sized challenges (involving Scheme macros, mostly) that Quadrescence developed: http://www.telegraphics.com.au/svn/puzzles/trunk/quad/TWENTY%20CHALLENGES%20FOR%20GREAT%20JUSTICE 13:17:50 http://tinyurl.com/cplty7r 13:20:45 qU1j0t3: hmm, it's nice. Thank you. 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The Armchair Universe is a blast. 14:49:05 *leppie* googles it (ignorance is bliss they say) 14:49:44 What are you trying to say? :P 14:50:10 what you dont know, can't hurt you 14:50:24 unless it does! 14:50:29 EbiDK [~ebi@3e6b71f5.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #scheme 14:50:30 wahahahahaha 14:50:32 well then you know 14:50:37 Nah, was just curious to know if you knew me or not. (Last name is Bliss.) 14:50:57 lol, nope, did not know that :) 14:51:05 lucasaiu [~user@fsf/member/lucasaiu] has joined #scheme 14:51:19 It's the penance I must pay for having a random noun for a last name. 14:51:38 it's better than say: Luke Wright 14:51:48 I know, wright? 14:52:02 -!- RITRedbeard__ [~RITReadbe@c-68-37-165-37.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:52:06 no look the other way 14:52:34 how about Luke Atwood ;p 14:53:32 Hm. I think I'm missing something. =drinks more coffee to compensate= 14:53:50 wood is slang for a boner 14:55:09 No, I got that much. Is Luke supposed to be munged into Look? I'm assuming that, but then I don't get the joke with regard to Wright. 14:55:41 yes Luke => Look, Wright => Right (as in not left) 14:55:55 Ah! Heh. 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(Only http and https are allowed.) 16:38:54 I've seen this before but it used to go away. Now it's persistent. 16:38:57 bummer! 16:39:00 what url are you using? 16:39:14 jcowan: re: the other day, one possible advantage of case sensitive symbols is that (compose symbol->string string->symbol) is now the identity for the function, not some compression function 16:39:19 http://wingolog.org/archives/2012/05/29/inline-cache-applications-in-scheme 16:39:20 it's probably being too fascist 16:39:21 http://tinyurl.com/ctq8xxb 16:39:29 (how convincing that is, I leave to you) 16:39:39 jcowan: what url are you posting in that little url entry box? 16:39:41 anything? 16:39:43 s/for the// 16:39:54 Oh, is *that* the problem? 16:39:59 i think it says "website" or something beside it 16:40:00 http://www.ccil.org/~cowan 16:40:11 amusing, maybe it thinks that ~ is not valid 16:40:18 Yeah. I'll just drop that field for now 16:40:31 Worked 16:40:39 heh. sorry for the terrible errors. 16:40:48 blammo 16:40:49 i'll look at using a newer url parser there 16:41:05 that one is probably some lame regexp or something 16:41:07 http://www.gamegrene.com/wiki/Heh-blammo_balance 16:41:54 wingo: funny though, I found 'inline caching' a waste of time in IronScheme 16:42:22 casting is cheaper than you think, even unboxing is not so bad on .NET 16:42:36 Yeah, the JIT gives you a big boost there. 16:42:41 leppie: you are sharecropping on the .net vm though :) 16:42:50 And why not? 16:42:52 sharecropping? 16:42:52 surely the vm does inline caching, underneath you 16:43:16 the DLR does it, but I ripped that shit out ;p 16:43:28 and like i said, ICs work best when implemented in native code 16:45:12 I might re-add it now, that I am specifically dealing with typed parameters, but else it made no sense to me (I dont even do type inference on 'methods' ;p) 16:46:08 -!- woonie15 [~woonie@p5078-ipngn1401hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:46:19 BTW, leppie, I am running IronScheme very nicely on Linux with "mono /opt/IronScheme/IronScheme.Console.exe -nologo -emacs" 16:46:44 ok, now that I read your blog fully wingo, my consenses is the same :) 16:47:10 The only oddity is that when I rub out a character, it erases it then displays "$<5>" 16:47:32 lol ;p 16:47:46 you mean Backspace? 16:47:50 Yes. 16:47:54 weird 16:48:01 But only if the Backspace is actually deleting something. 16:48:07 not right at the prompt 16:48:52 Vinnipeg [~konstanti@85.26.164.18] has joined #scheme 16:50:18 I also think IC's could be useless in a statically typed context 16:50:34 Sure. 16:50:36 Type inference can indeed hardwire IC. 16:51:03 If I want speed in IronScheme, I just go 'typed' :) 16:51:04 https://github.com/leppie/IronScheme/blob/master/IronScheme/IronScheme.Console/playground/foo.sls 16:51:04 http://tinyurl.com/d7d2hcm 16:54:50 -!- mmc [~michal@sams-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:58:32 there is still dynamic dispatch in "static" languages 16:58:42 virtual methods, gadts, etc 17:00:43 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 17:01:40 -!- RITRedbeard [~RITReadbe@c-68-37-165-37.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:05:21 even in C -- in fact that was the point of the article, what ICs could do for a relatively static language 17:05:38 and for these purposes Scheme is a static language 17:06:00 dynamically typed, but not generally polymorphic 17:09:19 Indeed, one should be able to write a demonically fast r4rs on 64-bit machines what with nunboxing and all. 17:09:43 Note that r4rs is not polymorphic in ports 17:10:45 there is no "write" in r4rs that can operate on different kinds of ports and data? 17:11:27 -!- rahul_ [~rahul@59.178.39.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:11:53 Oh, data, yes. But there are only file input and file output ports in r4rs, and no proc that is polymorphic on them. 17:12:16 mmm, maybe port-close 17:12:20 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 17:18:16 RITRedbeard [~RITReadbe@c-68-37-165-37.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:25:15 rahul_ [~rahul@59.178.39.49] has joined #scheme 17:27:47 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 17:28:22 ski [~ski@c80-216-142-165.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 17:31:14 getpwnam [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 17:31:59 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 17:33:21 -!- wingo [~wingo@230.pool85-50-248.dynamic.orange.es] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:39:49 -!- ASau` [~user@93-80-193-34.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:07 ASau` [~user@176.14.117.99] has joined #scheme 17:43:04 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:43:05 -!- getpwnam [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:45:09 Euthydemus` [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has joined #scheme 17:46:08 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:46:08 -!- Guest92547 [~micro@www.bway.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:46:08 micro__ [~micro@www.bway.net] has joined #scheme 17:46:38 -!- micro__ is now known as Guest58534 17:47:20 -!- Euthydemus [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:52:21 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 17:52:29 phao [phao@177.115.140.106] has joined #scheme 17:56:38 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:00:01 mmc [~michal@178-85-63-248.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 18:02:04 add^_ [~add^_^@m90-141-60-112.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 18:07:59 -!- Vinnipeg [~konstanti@85.26.164.18] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:08:21 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:19:50 -!- zbigniew [~zb@ipv6.3e8.org] has quit [Quit: the Castle AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa---] 18:23:15 wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has joined #scheme 18:24:25 adu [cc7847fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.120.71.252] has joined #scheme 18:24:50 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-209-224-164.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:25:03 wingo: I enjoyed your article. The linker/dispatch connection was neat. 18:27:10 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@m90-141-60-112.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 18:27:34 asumu: thanks1 18:27:35 ! 18:33:32 FreeArtMan [~fam@213.175.106.134] has joined #scheme 18:38:38 -!- sstrickl [~sstrickl@racket/sstrickl] has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 18:41:02 tomobrien [~tomobrien@109.204.120.34] has joined #scheme 18:46:59 -!- lucasaiu [~user@fsf/member/lucasaiu] has left #scheme 18:48:28 -!- mmc [~michal@178-85-63-248.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:25 mmc [~michal@178-85-63-248.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 18:52:54 bipt [~bpt@cpe-173-095-170-102.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 18:57:53 mvuets| [~mvuets@dhcp-077-248-147-148.chello.nl] has joined #scheme 18:58:04 -!- mvuets| [~mvuets@dhcp-077-248-147-148.chello.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 18:58:52 mvuets| [~mvuets@62.140.132.53] has joined #scheme 18:58:57 -!- mvuets [~mvuets@dhcp-077-248-147-148.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:59:55 turbofail [~user@38.99.37.210] has joined #scheme 19:00:34 -!- jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:01:14 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:06:01 snizzo [~Claudio@158.110.154.151] has joined #scheme 19:06:31 getpwnam [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 19:07:24 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 19:08:34 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [] 19:10:40 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 19:17:02 robolobster54 [~robolobst@host86-189-14-187.range86-189.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 19:24:09 sstrickl [~sstrickl@racket/sstrickl] has joined #scheme 19:28:52 To learn scheme, should I start with http://htdp.org/ or with SICP? 19:29:13 Someone recommended the former here, but the latter was written by Sussman himself... 19:29:27 you can do either, they are different but both good 19:32:55 wingo, what are the strengths of each? 19:33:25 i think htdp is a bit more practical 19:33:36 it's also hooked up to a modern programming environment, in racket 19:33:57 sicp is classic, and has an old-school engineering feel to me 19:34:02 those are impressions :) 19:34:36 robolobster54, I'd recommend sicp 19:34:42 there are the video lectures too 19:34:57 and content in general of sicp looks of better quality, but idk.. only skimmed htdp 19:34:58 thanks wingo and phao :) 19:38:28 What is a "use system"? 19:41:08 -!- robolobster54 [~robolobst@host86-189-14-187.range86-189.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:47:58 -!- twem2 [~tristan@puma-mxisp.mxtelecom.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:50:45 -!- EbiDK [~ebi@3e6b71f5.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:51:09 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:56:41 -!- adu [cc7847fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.120.71.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:56:47 rudybot: quote 19:56:47 ijp: let's only write code that contains forbidden rituals. 19:57:24 rudybot: amen 19:57:28 qU1j0t3: amen 19:57:36 rudybot: verboten 19:57:38 qU1j0t3: whereas a tube of [ZOMG!!!11!] toothpaste? verboten. 19:58:08 rudybot: I have to write an SMTP server? 19:58:10 ijp: and I never figured out how to make it pick between multiple SMTP servers correctly 19:58:22 rudybot: emacs or vim? 19:58:23 qU1j0t3: anyone know of a plugin like NERDComment for emacs? 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It sounds like you got it nailed. :-) 20:29:53 ASau`` [~user@93-80-253-113.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 20:30:24 ASau [~user@93-80-253-113.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 20:30:41 -!- ASau`` [~user@93-80-253-113.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32:03 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:32:18 attila_lendvai1 [~attila_le@188-143-64-196.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #scheme 20:32:18 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:33:36 -!- phao [phao@177.115.140.106] has quit [Quit: Not Here] 20:33:40 tomobrien [~tomobrien@109.204.120.34] has joined #scheme 20:33:47 -!- ASau` [~user@176.14.117.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:38:08 -!- tomobrien [~tomobrien@109.204.120.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:42:26 -!- mvuets [~mvuets@dhcp-077-248-147-148.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: 73!] 20:48:22 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-56-200.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #scheme 20:48:35 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-56-200.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Changing host] 20:48:35 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 20:50:25 tomobrien [~tomobrien@109.204.120.34] has joined #scheme 20:51:43 -!- attila_lendvai1 [~attila_le@188-143-64-196.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:52:18 githogori [~githogori@c-50-131-15-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:55:03 -!- tomobrien [~tomobrien@109.204.120.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:57:20 -!- snizzo [~Claudio@158.110.154.151] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58:48 -!- imphasing is now known as imphasing|home 21:00:31 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@m90-141-60-112.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:02:11 add^_ [~add^_^@m90-141-60-112.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 21:06:21 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@m90-141-60-112.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Client Quit] 21:13:19 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60292.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 21:16:57 rageous [~Adium@65-128-214-24.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 21:18:22 robolobster54 [~robolobst@77.241.58.140] has joined #scheme 21:19:21 -!- pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-4d067190.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:19:42 pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-4d067190.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 21:21:17 -!- rageous [~Adium@65-128-214-24.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:22:20 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:26:35 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-216-233.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:27 -!- antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: antithesis] 21:32:58 acedia_ [~garland@unaffiliated/ffs] has joined #scheme 21:33:43 -!- acedia [~garland@unaffiliated/ffs] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:35:14 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-132-37.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:35:35 -!- stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has left #scheme 21:35:52 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-132-37.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:38:51 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:39:37 RITRedbeard__ [~RITReadbe@c-68-37-165-37.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:40:45 -!- sstrickl [~sstrickl@racket/sstrickl] has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 21:40:50 -!- __rahul__ [~rahul@59.178.39.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:41:24 -!- imphasing|home [~Alex@97-81-80-39.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:41:30 -!- RITRedbeard [~RITReadbe@c-68-37-165-37.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:42 -!- rahul_ [~rahul@59.178.39.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:42:48 I found myself asking today: "Don't we need `and' and `and'; or `or' and `or'?" I wonder if that's a classic case of make-life-difficult-for-NLP. 21:43:37 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:43:52 klutometis: either-or; whatever; do or not; don't mind; six one, half a dozen of the other. 21:44:08 -!- acedia_ is now known as ffs 21:46:12 -!- b1rkh0ff [~b1rkh0ff@178.77.25.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:46:59 -!- ijp [~user@host86-182-156-99.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:47:09 ijp [~user@host86-182-156-99.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 21:47:32 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:48:08 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:48:46 -!- dzhus [~dzhus@95-28-239-49.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52:54 rahul_ [~rahul@59.178.57.43] has joined #scheme 21:52:54 __rahul__ [~rahul@59.178.57.43] has joined #scheme 21:55:58 dzhus [~dzhus@95-28-239-49.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 21:57:58 phao [phao@177.27.16.198] has joined #scheme 21:58:22 b1rkh0ff [~b1rkh0ff@178.77.7.105] has joined #scheme 22:02:33 -!- dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:04:50 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 22:12:01 qU1j0t3: God; it's hopeless, unless we can find armies of grad students to act as mechanical turks. 22:12:12 Maybe we can start a cloning program to that end. 22:12:14 -!- FreeArtMan [~fam@213.175.106.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:21:40 jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-148-123.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:23:28 klutometis: it will backfire; we will only make the Facebook army stronger! 22:24:47 civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has joined #scheme 22:27:30 dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:31:31 huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has joined #scheme 22:32:14 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-173-095-170-102.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:32:14 ASau` [~user@93-80-253-113.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 22:33:36 -!- ASau [~user@93-80-253-113.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:38:54 -!- rahul_ [~rahul@59.178.57.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:38:54 -!- __rahul__ [~rahul@59.178.57.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:51:03 jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has joined #scheme 23:04:04 lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 23:06:17 sstrickl [~sstrickl@racket/sstrickl] has joined #scheme 23:08:25 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 23:21:16 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:22:40 dnolen [~user@pool-96-224-18-215.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 23:23:29 -!- RITRedbeard__ [~RITReadbe@c-68-37-165-37.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:24:38 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:30:21 youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 23:31:43 -!- dzhus [~dzhus@95-28-239-49.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:39:29 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:40:18 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 23:42:03 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.114.33.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:44:41 -!- civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:44:54 -!- zbigniew [~zb@ipv6.3e8.org] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:47:04 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-16-10.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme