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'Much horse'?" 03:31:33 *offby1* cannot help but recall the graffiti scene in "Life of Brian" 03:36:52 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:37:16 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 03:37:34 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:38:08 rudybot: do irc bots watch monty python too? 03:38:08 ijp: Well, all I knew is there was a bunch of funny .au sound bytes of them, along with monty python or something 03:38:34 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@ip70-162-88-143.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #scheme 03:38:35 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@ip70-162-88-143.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:38:35 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 03:45:34 -!- ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:56:02 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:12:21 tupi [~david@189.119.239.189] has joined #scheme 04:17:20 confab [~confab@c-71-193-9-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:17:50 -!- tupi [~david@189.119.239.189] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:26:51 -!- noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:27:49 noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has joined #scheme 04:44:27 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-164-201.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 04:45:30 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04:39 simathur [~simathur@192.100.106.9] has joined #scheme 05:30:20 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-191-89.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:32:00 ecraven [~user@www.nexoid.at] has joined #scheme 05:34:47 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-35-187.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 05:41:25 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 05:42:25 jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-71.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 05:43:09 kreol[Ukr] [~kreol@85.198.173.181] has joined #scheme 05:52:43 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 05:56:20 mucker [~harsha@183.83.33.212] has joined #scheme 05:58:26 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:05:10 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 06:13:08 -!- teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:14:15 chu [~mathew.ba@CPE-124-176-52-6.lns2.dea.bigpond.net.au] has joined #scheme 06:14:39 teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has joined #scheme 06:19:11 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-71.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:21:09 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:21:30 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:21:34 githogori [~githogori@c-50-131-15-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:21:41 -!- githogori [~githogori@c-50-131-15-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:22:04 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 06:29:12 -!- gnomon_ [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:30:39 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 06:31:17 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:38:29 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:38:42 -!- jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:40:25 -!- ijp [~user@host86-167-251-178.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: The garbage collector got me] 06:42:32 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-35-187.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:47:37 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-165-175.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 06:55:44 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:57:21 dzhus [~dzhus@95-25-118-126.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 07:02:07 -!- Myk9000 is now known as Myk267 07:02:14 -!- ski [~slj@c80-216-142-165.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:03:08 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:03:21 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 07:04:10 -!- dca` [~user@178.252.127.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:06:06 Is there a technical reason why most (some?) Schemes don't have docstring support? 07:06:53 ski [~slj@c80-216-142-165.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 07:06:59 ecraven: I don't remember having seen anything like that in the R5RS standard. 07:07:52 ecraven: but reading R5RS, you will realize that the language specified is designed more to be compiled in batch than to be used interactively. 07:08:07 With a batch compiler, docstrings are useless. 07:08:42 Otherwise, nothing prevents you to put docstrings. They'll be considered as dead code by scheme implementations. 07:09:13 Also, defining a define or lambda macro to collect the docstrings and a couple of functions to get them back shouldn't be too hard. 07:09:57 Even in CL, the standard doesn't mandate docstring collection (or source sexp collection). Have a look at: http://www.informatimago.com/develop/lisp/com/informatimago/small-cl-pgms/ibcl/index.html 07:09:57 http://tinyurl.com/d9ypyc9 07:11:15 pjb: i'm just playing around with MIT/GNU Scheme and SLIME/swank, and it seems CL supports a lot more introspection and documentation than MIT/GNU Scheme :( 07:11:47 It would just be nice to have them when we need them (not force anyone to use them) :) 07:15:01 ecraven: this is clearly an implementation choice. 07:15:29 ecraven: you could consider Pseudo. It's a r4rs implementation in CL; as such, I'd guess it would inherit some feature of the host CL implementation. 07:16:15 Of course an alternative would be to patch your favorite scheme implementation. It shouldn't be too hard to add, since it's almost trivial to add as a set of macros. 07:19:35 -!- kvda [~kvda@202.58.240.18] has quit [Quit: x__x] 07:19:56 -!- mucker [~harsha@183.83.33.212] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:20:24 -!- ski [~slj@c80-216-142-165.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:23:11 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 07:24:26 ski [~slj@c80-216-142-165.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 07:29:37 mutley89 [~mutley89@cpc1-hudd6-0-0-cust741.4-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #scheme 07:30:11 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:30:23 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 07:37:39 Radium [~rajesh.na@117.203.16.24] has joined #scheme 07:39:19 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:39:35 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 07:40:58 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:42:57 ahinki [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has joined #scheme 07:46:20 mucker [~harsha@202.65.155.202] has joined #scheme 07:46:41 -!- pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-4d067240.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:46:59 pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-4dbec426.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 07:49:06 FRSHPRNCFBLR [~noone@ip-95-222-73-101.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #scheme 07:52:08 -!- Radium [~rajesh.na@117.203.16.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:53:46 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:54:38 -!- ski [~slj@c80-216-142-165.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:54:55 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:55:23 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 08:00:07 -!- FRSHPRNCFBLR [~noone@ip-95-222-73-101.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:01:02 guest0568 [456c4278@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.108.66.120] has joined #scheme 08:01:13 is SICP a good way to get started with programming? 08:02:28 ski [~slj@c80-216-142-165.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 08:04:06 You already asked that question (though not in here) and the answer was yes. 08:04:35 Instead of wasting time asking around, try it for yourself and find out. But generally, most people will say yes. 08:06:45 -!- ski [~slj@c80-216-142-165.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:09:08 -!- ASau` [~user@95-25-227-191.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:11:06 ASau` [~user@95-25-227-191.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 08:12:27 ski [~slj@c80-216-142-165.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 08:14:31 guest0568: in short: yes. 08:14:53 -!- guest0568 [456c4278@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.108.66.120] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:15:09 But perhaps not for you. 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I'm using Edwin 16:21:37 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 16:23:05 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:28:43 kudkudyak [~user@94.72.151.139] has joined #scheme 16:30:49 leo2007 [~leo@123.114.36.121] has joined #scheme 16:31:16 antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #scheme 16:34:08 -!- didi [~user@unaffiliated/didi/x-1022147] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:39:08 FRSHPRNCFBLR [~noone@ip-95-222-73-101.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #scheme 16:40:28 peterhil [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has joined #scheme 16:46:03 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:46:11 -!- robolobster54 [~robolobst@77.241.58.140] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:48:14 ASau`` [~user@176.14.176.32] has joined #scheme 16:50:25 -!- ASau` [~user@95-25-227-191.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:05:34 -!- 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macros just as easily as for actual functions, which is awesome 22:56:57 -!- noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:57:28 noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has joined #scheme 22:58:46 -!- noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59:06 noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has joined #scheme 23:00:16 -!- noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:00:19 even more amusing is that i can use it to interactively hack my way into the lower levels of the chibi C runtime, from the chibi REPL itself 23:00:40 noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has joined #scheme 23:02:13 -!- antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: yes leaving] 23:03:45 antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #scheme 23:06:26 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 23:08:11 -!- els is now known as fooc 23:08:58 -!- noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has quit [Read error: Connection 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