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Next, you'll be wishing R7RS-large had Racket-style sequences. :-) 03:08:57 Why madness? 03:09:06 SRFI-43, as in the vector library? 03:10:22 *mark_weaver* is not a fan of CL-style loop macros 03:11:26 sorry, 42 03:11:33 It's not CL-style 03:12:54 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:13:29 what's not CL-style? I was referring to complex 'loop' macros like foof loop, but maybe you're talking about something different. 03:13:30 looks like this: (list-ec (:range x 1 3) (:range y 4 6) (cons x y)) => ((1 . 4) (1 . 5) (2 . 4) (2 . 5)) 03:14:22 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 03:14:23 jcowan: I like that much better, but there's an efficiency issue to consider. if you want to loop from 1 to 1000000, it's best not to build a list of 1000000 elements first. 03:14:35 It doesn't. 03:15:15 oh, sorry. I confess my memory of srfi-42 is vague. I'll re-read it now. 03:15:31 The comprehensions are list-, append-, string-, string-append-, vector-, sum-, product, max-, min-, etc. 03:16:05 generators are :list, :string, :vector, :integers, :range, :real-range, :char-range, etc. 03:16:23 All these are syntax-rules macros. 03:16:39 I tried my first attempt at call/cc 03:16:56 And if you have the core definitions of do-ec and :do, you can define your own comprehensions and generators for your own data structures. 03:17:53 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:18:09 Which works well with a highly modular library. For example, if you have u16 vectors, you can add u16-vector-ec and :u16-vector. 03:18:43 jcowan: My comment about madness was in relation to using the SRFI 43 vector library as opposed to foof-loop. 03:18:47 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:19:02 Yeah, big mistake. 03:19:06 on my part. 03:19:24 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 03:22:20 jcowan: srfi-42 does look quite nice. does it provide a way to loop over multiple logical sequences in parallel, or to return multiple sequences? 03:22:33 The latter, no. 03:23:17 The former, you can do with (:parallel generator ...) 03:23:57 ah, indeed it does. nice 03:24:39 Very very nice 03:24:47 I hope I can sell WG2 on the idea 03:26:27 I hope WG2 will not consist entirely of me! 03:26:58 how will the members of W2 be selected? I'm ignorant of the process. 03:27:23 s/W2/WG2/ 03:28:41 oh, I see there's already a set of members, at least on the web page. 03:29:37 There are, but because WG2 has been in the deep freeze so long, there will be a new call for volunteers. 03:30:12 To become a member, you send an application to the Steering Committee then the SC and the chair (me) review it. 03:31:23 -!- githogori [~githogori@c-50-131-15-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32:54 Is the WG1 membership now closed? 03:36:14 *mark_weaver* is concerned that so few of the WG1 members are actually participating. 03:37:59 -!- bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-52-191-77.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:38:59 Yes. WG1 is getting close to being closed, in fact. 03:40:57 We'll issue draft 7 some time after ballot 5 closes, and then we'll have another ballot after the Formal Comment period closes. 03:41:28 which I think is at the end of June. 03:41:44 That will be draft 8 or 9, which will be the candidate report. 03:42:05 Then comes the Big Vote, and if 90% of voters say aye, we're done, otherwise we iterate until they do or we give up. 03:43:45 On my TODO list: write an appeal to scheme-reports to heed the words of Sussman on one of the ballots: "Do not introduce anything "not necessarily of very high quality" into the language! Don't do anything that Knuth and Kahan would not approve of!" and thus to resist the temptation to enshrine some of blatantly anti-mathematical aspects of IEEE 754 into R7RS. 03:44:48 i think Kahan has been accused of admitting anti-mathematical elements into 754. 03:44:57 or, rejecting mathematical arguments 03:45:19 *qu1j0t3* can't remember cases though 03:45:37 R5RS was so refreshing compared with most other languages, in that it didn't contain anything that blatantly unmathematical. 03:46:24 754 is a fact of life, and R[67]RS defines them in accordance with 754, but does not mandate them. 03:46:50 .b 2 03:46:57 Kahan is a smart cookie, and so is Cowlishaw 03:47:47 (the decimal arithmetic and REXX guy)O 03:47:52 sure, as long as the unmathematical stuff is not required, that's fine. so when in doubt, say "unspecified" :) 03:51:25 754 does not have an exact zero, so its choices are reasonable in that context. 03:52:45 Well, it's a little past "unspecified". If you have -0.0, then it must behave thus; if you don't, you are still conformant. 03:53:44 Sussman was responding to my saying that random numbers don't have to be of high quality (i.e. derived from quantum effects). I think he misinterpreted it. 03:53:45 I will argue that (/ 1.0 0) should not require a result of +inf.0. 03:54:03 Right: it can report an implementation restriction. 03:54:29 even if +inf.0 is supported, (/ 1.0 0) should not require +inf.0 to be the result. 03:54:48 :-O 03:55:02 Do you prefer the Python-style throw-an-exception instead? 03:56:23 either that, or a system that uses the riemann sphere could return a complex infinity. but +inf.0 is absolutely incorrect if the divisor is an _exact_ zero. 03:57:35 754's choices are based upon a system where there are _no_ exact numbers. and in that context, its choices are reasonable. 03:58:18 I would be very careful extrapolating its decisions when there are exact numbers involved. 03:58:41 mark_weaver: Well, we were discussing that very issue: dividing an inexact non-zero by an exact zero, is that exact or inexact division. 04:00:17 bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-52-166-86.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 04:00:59 except in special cases, I would caution against following 754 unless _all_ arguments are inexact. 04:03:04 in this case especially, where 754 mandates that (/ 1.0 +0.0) and (/ 1.0 -0.0) have different results (as far apart as any results could be), you cannot safely extrapolate what (/ 1.0 0) should be. I fear that there is unsufficient mathematical knowledge among the actively-voting WG1 members. 04:05:28 well, perhaps my previous statement was too strong. in most typical cases, if any argument is exact, it is safe to follow 754. 04:05:35 s/exact/inexact/ 04:08:18 jcowan: I gather that you read up on the riemann sphere and extended real number systems the other day, and what did you find regarding division by zero? 04:08:28 I confess I did not. 04:09:29 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:10:03 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 04:11:33 There _are_ some WG1 members with strong mathematical knowledge, such as Sussman at least, but unfortunately they are no longer actively participating. 04:13:51 But you can get an idea of what Sussman would choose based on the way the MIT Scheme behaves. 04:14:32 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 04:18:09 My interest in this is that I would like to build a computer algebra system on top of scheme (based largely on Maxima, to which I am a contributor). I would like for it to not return any answers that would make a mathematician cringe. 04:19:41 jcowan: if I decide to make continuations unassignable, and throw an implementation-restriction, is that still scheme? 04:19:58 What do you mean by unassignable? 04:20:20 like (set! x c) where c is a continuation throws an error 04:20:43 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:21:33 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 04:22:14 OIC. No. The concept of implementation restrictions relates to numbers only. 04:22:33 I'm at the point where I have to decide to rewrite everything in CPS, or use POSIX getcontext/setcontext, or just use exception-style semantics 04:23:32 if I'm not mistaken, exception-style semantics doesn't allow (set! x c) 04:25:34 what would you do? 04:26:32 adu: Continuations that can't be stashed somewhere are not very useful. 04:26:50 cky: so you would go with getcontext/setcontext? 04:26:59 adu: There's a reason why the Scheme reports talk about continuations having unlimited extent. 04:27:31 cky: or CPS? 04:28:10 CPS is the usual technique I know of, but probably not the only sensible one. 04:28:16 adu: sounds like you are talking about one-shot continuations, or escape continuations, often called call/ec. but even those can be assigned to variables. they just can't be invoked more than once (where returning to the continuation normally counts as "invoking", hence it has exception-style semantics) 04:29:55 s/often called/created by a procedure usually called/ 04:29:57 AFAIK, an implementation that provides one-shot continuations only is not conformant. 04:30:41 hmm good point 04:31:20 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 04:31:43 OTOH, some very successful "Schemes" don't support first-class continuations. 04:32:24 though I would certainly encourage you to implement full continuations. 04:32:45 mark_weaver: I believe I can do that with getcontext/setcontext 04:32:59 -!- forcer [~forcer@hmbg-5f7647cd.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:34:13 guaranteed tail calls is where I draw the line, however :) anything that doesn't do tail calls doesn't deserve to call itself scheme, imho. 04:36:15 mark_weaver: Indeed, just like someone who can't write FizzBuzz cannot be called a programmer. :-P 04:36:21 (Not to say that someone who can, is.) 04:39:05 things like functions being limited to n variables, vector sizes limited to fixnum range etc are also usually listed as implementation restrictions along with height challenged numerical towers 04:40:01 i assumed the concept is for all such minor deviations, not just ones regarding numbers 04:41:05 anyways, I was talking to #go-nuts about this, and they told me that getcontext/setcontext are deprecated 04:41:12 which they are 04:41:17 but that's not the point 04:41:26 cky: I hadn't heard of FizzBuzz before. it's kind of frightening that such a test is not trivial to any programmer. 04:44:16 adu: I vaguely recall reading a paper once that described how to use threads to implement continuations. seems doable to me, though I haven't thought about it carefully. 04:45:02 mark_weaver: ...I have met people who call themselves programmers who cannot implement FizzBuzz on the spot. 04:45:02 somewhat inefficient though, since I guess you'd have to spawn a new thread every time you capture a continuation. 04:45:07 mark_weaver: It's very scary. 04:45:12 *ski* . o O ( Cheney on the MTA ) 04:45:17 ski++ 04:45:30 The reports do not define "Scheme". 04:45:50 BTW, everyone who voted on the fourth ballot has now voted on the fifth ballot with one exception. 04:46:42 :-O 04:47:23 We' 04:47:25 ll see. 04:47:45 Scheme-the-syntax is one thing, Scheme-the-procedure-library is another, and they really don't have much to do with each other. 04:47:57 The exception is that rest arguments are reified as lists. 04:48:35 Flopsy, my not-quite-Scheme, will not support symbols or pairs, for example, as they aren't needed for the work it has to do. 04:48:46 :-O 04:49:18 But what makes it a NQS is the lack of tail calls and indefinite-extent procedures. 04:49:37 is there any difference between (apply f rest) and (f . rest)? 04:49:54 the latter isn't valid as an expression 04:49:57 (f . rest) doesn't work at all. 04:50:05 (or, sometimes it is valid, but doesn't do what you think) 04:50:07 oh right expression 04:50:16 but it's a valid datum 04:50:56 btw, the reason it's not allowed is because if you put a parenthesized expression there, e.g. (f . (+ 1 2)), that would be read as (f + 1 2) which would do something totally different from what you expected. 04:50:58 The idea is that you can write your floating-point code in a subset of Scheme, debug it in your fave implementation, and then use Flopsy to compile it into efficient C with no boxing. 04:51:24 In general, dotted lists are never valid in code except in lambda-lists. 04:51:55 rudybot: eval (let ((a '(2 3))) (list 1 2 . (cdr a))) 04:51:55 ski: ; Value: (1 2 # (2 3)) 04:51:55 useful in macros though 04:51:58 vs. 04:52:03 rudybot: eval (let ((a '(2 3))) (apply list 1 2 (cdr a))) 04:52:03 ski: ; Value: (1 2 3) 04:52:08 jcowan: I believe there's nothing stopping macro-authors from defining syntax that uses dotted lists. 04:52:13 maybe I should work on a compiler instead 04:52:20 mark_weaver: Point. 04:52:31 aoh : and in other matching 04:53:15 well, in my scheme (droscheme), the cdr of a procedure call may be null, pair, or a symbol 04:55:03 rudybot: eval (match '(1 2 3) (`(,a . ,as) (list a as))) 04:55:03 ski: ; Value: (1 (2 3)) 04:55:53 rudybot: (cons* 1 2 3) 04:55:54 adu: your sandbox is ready 04:55:54 adu: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: cons* in module: 'program 04:56:03 adu: so droscheme treats (f . xs) as equivalent to (apply f xs) ? 04:56:12 mark_weaver: yes 04:57:18 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 04:57:34 adu: it's prone to confusion, because everywhere else in scheme, you can replace any subexpression with any other valid subexpression, with the results that you would naturally expect. 04:57:44 lcc [~user@75-173-79-84.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 04:57:56 I don't plan on advertising it 04:59:18 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:59:19 -!- kudkudyak [~user@94.72.138.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:59:44 hmm, so far the only library procedure I'm using that syntax in is (append) 04:59:47 jcowan: flopsy sounds cool. reminds me of something aubrey jaffer uses. 04:59:54 I suppose I could remove that feature 04:59:56 Thanks. 05:01:17 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 05:02:01 hmm, I don't see flopsy on ccil 05:03:16 jcowan: with flopsy, are you able to write most loops using recursion, or do you need to do something different? 05:03:35 You can write them using recursion, but they are not implemented as recursion 05:03:44 iow tail calls work only in certain positions. 05:05:33 jcowan: hmm. tail calls always work only in certain positions. do you mean that you only detect certain tail calls, i.e. tail calls to the same procedure you are currently within, or something to that effect? that's the typical limitation on tail calls that one often finds. 05:05:43 Just so 05:06:01 (sibling calls ?) 05:06:10 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:06:55 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 05:12:22 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 05:14:48 I don't yet know exactly what will work and what will not. 05:21:17 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:22:47 -!- arcfide [~arcfide@c-98-223-204-153.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit 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[~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:00:05 -!- gnomon_ [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:22 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 06:00:45 cky: FizzBuzz is fun 06:01:38 -!- lebro [~monx@ool-18bc4a28.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:02:35 :-P 06:02:51 cky: http://paste.lisp.org/display/128713 06:03:22 adu: If you like FizzBuzz, you'll like this: http://reprog.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/are-you-one-of-the-10-percent/ 06:04:25 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.193.213] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 06:05:41 cky: I don't think most people use fxbit-count 06:09:11 jake [~jake@63.249.57.43] has joined #scheme 06:09:37 -!- jake is now known as Guest7381 06:10:01 adu: No, indeed not. 06:10:30 There's a straightforward way to do it. :-) 06:10:32 -!- 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tell me those crazy racketeers are planning to do without zero? 21:15:30 ijp: *sigh* such disdain for the standard from Racketeers 21:15:40 indeed 21:16:56 lulz 21:17:06 band of jolly rascals 21:17:14 the Debian of Scheme! 21:18:34 tupi [~david@139.82.89.24] has joined #scheme 21:28:31 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r190-135-50-56.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:29:50 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:33:43 R6RS FTW! http://stackoverflow.com/a/9984157/15541 21:37:42 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 21:42:07 -!- elly_ is now known as elly 21:47:02 -!- albacker [~eni@unaffiliated/enyx] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:47:09 append! isn't a solution there 21:47:59 1) it _might_ mutate the original list but it doesn't have to 21:48:16 2) if the original list is a null, it can't mutate it anyway 22:08:48 -!- keenbug [~daniel@p4FDB75CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:15:48 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-180-143.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:26 oh and 3) you should be append!ing a list :P 22:24:59 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 22:41:39 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-56-152.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:42:15 masm [~masm@bl18-56-152.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 22:43:52 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-56-152.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Client Quit] 22:44:48 rudybot: sometimes I think people don't even read the documentation for the procedures they use 22:44:49 ijp: but, obviously, with things like extensible macro-expanders, read-tables - that pass to scheme procedures, etc, 22:51:29 tuubow__ [~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #scheme 22:55:53 what? they're actually documented? 22:56:20 sure, if the system is worth using 22:57:50 -!- dous_ [~dous@unaffiliated/dous] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 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