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by using it 01:05:06 -!- adu [~ajr@64.134.96.220] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05:35 adu [~ajr@64.134.96.220] has joined #scheme 01:05:51 ok 01:05:53 -!- chromaticwt [~user@71-222-151-95.albq.qwest.net] has left #scheme 01:14:48 -!- X-Scale [email@sgi-ultra64.broker.freenet6.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:17:05 phao [phao@177.115.209.227] has joined #scheme 01:34:10 ooo draft 6 is out 01:35:32 so there went from library => module => define-library 01:36:36 no, the bikeshed should be puce!! 01:36:58 ijp: lol 01:38:34 snizzo [~quassel@host248-236-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #scheme 01:39:15 define-record-type has certainly evolved over the years 01:39:48 not really, the definition given there is the same one as srfi 9, written way back when 01:40:11 1999 01:40:21 from n c p to (n c p) to n ( c ) p back to n c p 01:43:47 at first I thought (n c p) was more expressive because the names were optional, but after reading about #t and 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^x Report on Scheme. 13:07:11 thanks 13:07:26 There was a Report on Scheme, then a Revised Report on Scheme, then a Revised Revised Report on Scheme, so Revisedē Report on Scheme and so on. 13:07:34 We're reaching the 7th revision. 13:08:00 pjb: so it's basically scheme standard, and it's still updating, right? 13:08:08 Yes. 13:12:50 -!- osa1_ [~sinan@78.175.211.87] has left #scheme 13:13:50 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-198-16.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:14:30 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-38-111.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 13:14:59 rostayob [~rostayob@dyn1213-187.wlan.ic.ac.uk] has joined #scheme 13:15:22 homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-198-16.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 13:16:31 wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has joined #scheme 13:23:34 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:33:51 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:45:43 -!- homie 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For fast programming, check the first section. 14:24:11 mmc1 [~michal@178-85-131-65.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 14:26:02 ijp` [~user@host86-151-72-142.range86-151.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 14:26:46 -!- ijp [~user@host86-151-72-142.range86-151.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:26:51 -!- ijp` is now known as ijp 14:31:02 ironChicken [~richard@195.3.137.108] has joined #scheme 14:31:58 arbscht [~arbscht@fsf/member/arbscht] has joined #scheme 14:34:55 _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:34:57 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:34:58 -!- dronf` is now known as dronf 14:35:23 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 14:37:53 pjb: not helpful; unrelated to chromaticwt's question. 14:39:02 just curious 14:39:55 -!- _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 14:40:02 hm... how do I undefine a previous define? 14:40:08 _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:44:38 wow, undefine 14:44:43 how about that? 14:45:04 I tried it and it worked. 14:46:24 -!- chromaticwt [~user@71-222-151-95.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 14:46:48 chromaticwt [~user@71-222-151-95.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 14:47:01 wingo: he asked about fast programming. The first section refers papers about how lisp in general allows you to program fast. 14:47:48 pjb: you only read half his question. also you're in the wrong channel, I think. 14:48:52 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-198-16.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48:54 wingo: no, you read it wrong. The conclusion is that any scheme is good for fast programming in general, and fast programming of numerical algorithms in particular. 14:49:40 that's good 14:50:22 homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-198-16.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:52:39 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:58:42 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-198-16.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:13 homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-198-16.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 15:03:32 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-198-16.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:24 virl [~virl__@85-127-92-121.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #scheme 15:05:04 homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-198-16.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 15:07:16 -!- chromaticwt [~user@71-222-151-95.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:07:30 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 15:08:41 chromaticwt [~user@71-222-151-95.albq.qwest.net] has 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