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Details at http://scheme-reports.org/2012/process1.html 04:26:31 -!- YokYok [~david@vmailbox.org] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 04:26:50 Yay! Have downloaded draft 6 and will read it soon. :-D 04:26:54 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 04:30:41 Excellent. The more commentators, the merrier. 04:31:59 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 04:33:37 woonie [~woonie@nusnet-228-27.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has joined #scheme 04:42:01 bokr [~edka@109.110.59.9] has joined #scheme 04:42:57 -!- bytbox [~s@129.2.129.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:44:33 bytbox [~s@129.2.129.227] has joined #scheme 04:47:05 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 04:49:15 kudkudyak [~sun@94.72.149.10] has joined #scheme 04:51:15 -!- bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-48-240-107.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:57:30 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:02:51 -!- woonie [~woonie@nusnet-228-27.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 05:04:30 replore [~replore@203.152.213.161.static.zoot.jp] has joined #scheme 05:04:47 bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-48-235-23.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 05:05:11 -!- replore_ [~replore@203.152.213.161.static.zoot.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:08:24 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:11:45 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 05:14:40 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:17:20 -!- _schulte1 [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:18:38 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:20:34 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 05:22:16 cdidd [~cdidd@95-26-138-35.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 05:30:08 porco [~porco@123.123.250.167] has joined #scheme 05:34:45 -!- porco [~porco@123.123.250.167] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:37:23 porco [~porco@123.123.250.167] has joined #scheme 05:37:34 -!- ssbr [~scorchsab@python/site-packages/ssbr] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:38:09 -!- bokr [~edka@109.110.59.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:39:32 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-176-197.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 05:42:30 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 05:47:15 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-209.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:47:24 jewel [~jewel@196-209-248-121.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 05:48:35 homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-209.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 05:53:58 -!- EmmanuelOga [~emmanuel@190.244.3.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:58:33 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Quit: http://www.cyphase.com/] 06:02:16 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 06:03:54 cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #scheme 06:04:41 ThePawnBreak [~quassel@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 06:05:10 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-209.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:11:01 leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has joined #scheme 06:11:48 -!- replore [~replore@203.152.213.161.static.zoot.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:11:57 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19:40 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 06:29:54 _schulte1 [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:30:12 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:30:15 -!- _schulte1 [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:31:31 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 06:33:53 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 06:34:30 EmmanuelOga [~emmanuel@190.244.3.40] has joined #scheme 06:35:34 -!- kudkudyak [~sun@94.72.149.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:38:21 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:39:49 -!- _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:42:03 _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:43:12 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 06:45:28 -!- jcowan [~John@cpe-66-108-19-185.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:55:35 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-209-248-121.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:57:04 mmc1 [~michal@178-85-131-65.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 06:58:58 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:02:27 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:47 The r7rs draft weirds me out with its crazy 'define-library' stuff. I guess I have a hard time moving on from r5rs. 07:03:45 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 07:06:19 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 07:09:08 -!- porco [~porco@123.123.250.167] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:10:03 porco [~porco@123.123.253.115] has joined #scheme 07:12:55 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-176-197.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:13:24 -!- cswords [~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:13:38 cswords [~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:14:18 arameus [~orange_ju@default-216.120.224.245.hrnoc.net] has joined #scheme 07:14:34 -!- EmmanuelOga [~emmanuel@190.244.3.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:17:53 bokr [~edka@109.110.59.9] has joined #scheme 07:20:35 -!- leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:21:45 mikecsh [~mikecsh@113.28.74.33] has joined #scheme 07:22:42 leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has joined #scheme 07:23:45 djcb [djcb@nat/nokia/x-eliigwwlwldfcatl] has joined #scheme 07:25:03 what about r6rs? 07:25:27 I wasn't really paying much attention at that time. 07:26:21 Man, where is Riastradh these days? 07:26:39 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-167-213.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 07:32:50 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:33:32 phao [phao@177.115.112.99] has joined #scheme 07:43:54 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:50:41 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:51:59 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 07:52:32 hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has joined #scheme 07:52:32 -!- hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has quit [Changing host] 07:52:32 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 07:53:15 -!- mmc1 [~michal@178-85-131-65.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:06:14 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:08:55 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:10:15 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 08:13:21 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 08:14:11 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:16:41 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:18:00 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 08:25:33 -!- bokr [~edka@109.110.59.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:31:26 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:32:43 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 08:36:31 tom_i [~thomasing@cmc.beaming.biz] has joined #scheme 08:38:08 levi: superficial differences 08:39:52 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:40:36 -!- ysph [~user@mobile-166-147-124-128.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:40:49 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:42:37 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-117-44.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 08:44:05 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-117-44.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 08:44:12 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-117-44.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:48:33 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-254.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 08:49:51 namoamitabuddha [~namoamita@114.94.239.137] has joined #scheme 08:50:57 (define (test sym) (eval (list 'define sym ''test) user-initial-environment)) 08:51:03 How can I simplify this one? 08:53:54 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:55:11 cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #scheme 08:58:54 namoamitabuddha, probably with define-syntax, in some cases. 08:59:09 I am not sure how the rules are for dynamically, at run-time, defining things with eval 09:04:18 phao: Thanks. It's a procedure which needs to use the symbol not only to add it to a list but also to make a definition. 09:04:56 -!- cswords [~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:12 eval is in the language, afaik, more as a decorative "thing" 09:05:17 than as something you should use. 09:05:41 I just get that impression. 09:06:00 cswords [~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 09:06:08 Oh, but how can I do it? 09:06:12 I am not sure if that is the case. But for example, I am not sure if (eval ) is the same as if you typed that expression in place of the eval expression 09:06:21 even if you specify the same environment. 09:07:21 define a symbol at run-time? I don't know. Maybe, in your context there is a non that-much-dynamic solution. 09:08:27 user-initial-environment is undefined in my scheme environment 09:08:43 your code, without that user-initial-environment, works as if I had typed the definion in the top level 09:08:54 but 09:09:12 the eval from MIT-scheme needs 2 arguments. 09:09:57 rostayob [~rostayob@02d99acf.bb.sky.com] has joined #scheme 09:10:10 yeah, mine is "overloaded" 09:10:14 heh 09:10:19 try 09:10:28 (scheme-report-environment) 09:10:55 Unbound variable 09:11:00 I am sorry, you need to pass an argument 09:11:17 well, it should not be 09:11:23 scheme-report-environment is defined by the standard 09:11:48 ;Unbound variable: scheme-report-environment 09:11:51 (scheme-report-environment ), where version is probably 5 in your case 09:12:21 maybe you have to import something... it should not be undefined 09:12:29 ; (RESTART 5) => Specify a value to use instead of scheme-report-environment. 09:12:47 ? 09:12:57 It's also undefined. 09:14:24 -!- virl [~virl__@85-127-92-121.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:14:47 idk then... 09:15:17 try... 09:15:21 null-environment 09:15:38 put (null-environment 5) instead of that user-initial-environment 09:16:23 put is undefined. 09:16:24 I never used mit scheme tbh, maybe once, but was when I knew almost nothing of scheme 09:19:33 hmm 09:19:38 mitscheme website says that 09:19:43 it on purpose doesn't define these things. 09:19:45 wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has joined #scheme 09:22:30 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.63.156] has joined #scheme 09:22:31 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.63.156] has quit [Changing host] 09:22:31 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 09:24:28 namoamitabuddha, maybe you should try another implementation 09:24:53 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:25:12 that strives for compilance, I think racket is like that. I use chicken, which I think does more than well enough. I never had to deal with details like that. So I am guessing a lot. 09:25:28 Btw... what is it that you wanna do with these "dynamic definitions" ? 09:25:54 is there a scheme implementation that is suitable for systems administration or should I just switch to common lisp? 09:26:11 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 09:27:02 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27:25 arameus, cannot help you very much with that, but for systems admin, what you need is support from the implementation. 09:27:53 I couldnt agree more, I need an implementation with tons of simple functions for file io, and an excellent unix api 09:28:07 standard scheme won't let you check very much the system status, but there is a lot you can do in UNIX-like system, for example, because much of what you do is opening and closing files. 09:28:17 Hmmm. 09:28:26 there is kawa, which runs on top of the jvm 09:28:47 basically, that means you can do whatever you can in java (library), but in scheme. 09:29:07 that idea repulses me, haha 09:29:17 sisc (or scsi) does that too 09:29:24 homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 09:29:35 phao: Only for search. I can make a list of pairs instead. 09:29:40 well, I am not sure if you will find a scheme implementation that will give you unix like tools 09:29:49 namoamitabuddha, I'd suggest you that 09:29:56 maybe that is what I should do, write a scheme implementation for systems administration, haha 09:30:07 you can simulate dynamic definitions with an assoc 09:30:15 aslist* 09:30:26 or build a library for that 09:30:26 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 09:30:31 using an already existing one. 09:30:36 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:30:37 one=scheme implementation 09:30:46 yes, that would be awesome 09:30:56 you should use chicken, in my opinion because it gives you MANY posix-ish functions 09:31:08 it has, actually, a module called posix 09:31:27 with that intention, and an extension called posix-extra it seems, to fill what the module posix doesn't have. 09:31:46 it also supports read-line, which is good for command line typing. 09:31:57 homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 09:32:19 you will find that many things are already done 09:32:31 reading up on it, this looks perfect. 09:32:39 I am not sure what you mean by "systems administration", I don't know that kind of stuff very well. 09:32:45 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:33:04 -!- shaunxcode [~chatzilla@c-98-202-35-176.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:33:16 but I guess some posix-ish set of functions should help you 09:33:40 -!- leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 23.4.1] 09:34:02 Is there any CAS (Computer Algebra System) support under Scheme? 09:34:50 homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 09:36:20 arameus, 09:36:25 also, with a simple macro 09:36:51 you can have stuff like this 09:36:56 (cmd ls -l myhome) 09:37:02 and have it run that command 09:37:46 I mean, you can see how a 3 or 4 line macro can do that... You just need a function that executes a command given a string 09:37:54 yeah, the reason I was so interested in the first place is because it seems like a powerful posix API would work really interestingly with scheme 09:37:56 I think process-execute does that 09:38:12 -!- rostayob [~rostayob@02d99acf.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 09:39:40 -!- Obfuscate [~keii@ip98-176-16-175.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:48:53 arameus, 09:48:58 check this out 09:49:06 (pasting code, it'll take sometime) 09:51:23 http://pastie.org/pastes/3393341/text 09:51:57 You can be more elaborate and benefit from pipes using process and process-execute it seems, but if you just wanna type commands 09:52:38 maybe you can build a "literal" keyboard for that macro, so that you don't need to escape strings 09:55:08 arameus, like this, http://pastie.org/pastes/3393354/text 09:55:22 this works as expected, and lists "o i" 09:55:44 hba [~hba@189.229.225.248] has joined #scheme 09:56:58 In windows, which I use, you cannot put quotes in the file names... so I pretty much am done with that script. In linux, you'd have to see if this would work properly 09:57:02 but I think is pretty neat.. 09:57:19 (cmd cat | grep -i 'name$') 09:57:33 you probably can do that, and get what you'd normally get as if you typed that on the command line 09:58:17 leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has joined #scheme 09:58:45 there is glob, which just lists all your files 09:58:53 in the current directory 10:01:25 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:02:44 homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 10:04:35 -!- mikecsh [~mikecsh@113.28.74.33] has quit [Quit: mikecsh] 10:06:28 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 10:13:27 homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 10:16:30 -!- hba [~hba@189.229.225.248] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:18:42 -!- porco [~porco@123.123.253.115] has quit [] 10:24:04 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-142.netcologne.de] has quit 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things in the... Real World. 20:12:30 humasect: For some definition of `do', yes. 20:12:31 Fair enough. :-) 20:12:45 what kind of definition? ^_^ 20:12:54 *humasect* investigates the code 20:12:56 humasect: It's alpha-quality. 20:13:12 cky: I've missed #stackoverflow too. I might rejoin there soon. :-) 20:13:18 :-) 20:15:55 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-209-248-121.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:16:28 -!- bigfg is now known as bfig 20:18:29 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:22:30 -!- fds [~fds@tickle.compsoc.man.ac.uk] has quit [Changing host] 20:22:30 fds [~fds@fsf/member/fds] has joined #scheme 20:24:21 HG` [~HG@dsbg-4db59d16.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 20:24:23 interesting... 20:24:54 -!- tupi [~david@139.82.89.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:32:13 shaunxcode [~chatzilla@c-98-202-35-176.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:34:20 -!- stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has left #scheme 20:38:55 the brainfuck implementation, however, is production-quality :P 20:42:54 drwho [~drwho@216-122-174-206.gci.net] has joined #scheme 20:43:02 kpal [~kpal@83.94.112.68] has joined #scheme 20:45:33 :-D 20:50:39 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51:02 -!- shaunxcode [~chatzilla@c-98-202-35-176.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:51:24 o noes 20:51:35 div0 is gone 20:54:34 moll [~user@150.181.35.213.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #scheme 20:56:45 -!- humasect [~humasect@d24-235-167-67.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03:00 -!- kpal [~kpal@83.94.112.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:03:37 amca [~amca@CPE-121-208-82-128.cqzr1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has joined #scheme 21:03:49 -!- ThePawnBreak [~quassel@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:04:37 -!- HG` [~HG@dsbg-4db59d16.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:07:18 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-167-213.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:49 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:18:03 -!- pothos [~pothos@114-36-233-14.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:18:45 -!- bytbox [~s@129.2.129.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:19:59 pothos [~pothos@114-36-232-84.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 21:21:35 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 21:22:48 -!- pothos [~pothos@114-36-232-84.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:23:06 pothos [~pothos@114-36-232-84.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 21:24:00 -!- Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:25:49 -!- pothos [~pothos@114-36-232-84.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:26:08 pothos [~pothos@114-36-232-84.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 21:28:00 bytbox [~s@129.2.129.227] has joined #scheme 21:30:17 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:37:48 Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has joined #scheme 21:40:14 Cheery [~cheery@a88-113-48-33.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 21:40:28 hi.. I thought I find lots of mathematicians here... 21:40:31 crunchybumble [~chatzilla@140-182-225-204.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #scheme 21:40:57 errrrr 21:41:00 wondering.. what does it require formally to prove that copy protection measures cannot prevent copying? 21:41:14 Cheery: wrong chan 21:41:31 copy the item in question 21:41:39 ijp: :) 21:41:53 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:24 ijp: that way you can prove that the specific copy protection measure is moot. 21:42:46 but if you'd like to prove them all wrong. 21:43:14 even just the theoretical idea of copy protection. 21:43:29 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 21:43:39 This is silly. But if I have a somewhat complicated pattern in my syntax-rules template (_ a ((n (exp ...)) ...), and I really do want to do something with just the first instance of n, not the series of them. how do I get access to it without throwing a missing ellipsis? 21:44:07 err. one more right paren at the end 21:44:22 FireFly [~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #scheme 21:44:52 ellipses means 0 or more, so there isn't necessarily one 21:45:28 ((n (exp ...)) (ns (exps ...)) ...) should work though 21:45:31 mhm. 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