00:00:15 ijp++ 00:01:05 but if kawa has exact rationals, then it may still be necessary to use floor, round etc 00:01:34 rudybot: eval (inexact->exact 1.5) 00:01:34 ijp: ; Value: 3/2 00:02:03 :) 00:04:29 -!- choas [~lars@p4FDC5EAA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:05:33 actually, kawa implicitely does a truncate to cast (let ((a :: int -2.5)) a) -> -2 00:05:48 but thanks 00:13:46 jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-151-135.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:26:43 -!- airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 00:30:29 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:30:43 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:31:01 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 00:31:21 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 00:36:29 -!- mmc1 [~michal@178-85-131-65.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:44:04 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 00:55:36 -!- jt123 [~jayan@cpc4-lutn3-0-0-cust768.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #scheme 01:13:03 arthurmaciel [~user@186.204.126.4] has joined #scheme 01:14:59 qu1j0t3: I went to gnome to test Kexi (DB program). After that experience I realized that using stumpwm, emacs, scheme made me an extremely boring person: average window managers, text editors and programming languages do not suffice. 01:15:22 Kexi does not support compound primary keys. 01:15:30 gnome needs the mouse too much 01:15:37 :) 01:15:47 and I feel much more confortable to program things myself 01:16:03 well, if you have the time. 01:16:44 I realized the central point: with my inital setup (chicken scheme, awful, web app) I was intending to create a 'perfect'/'universal' system. 01:16:54 That's why it seemed to be too much work. 01:17:30 When I tried Kexi I figured out I would only be able to do what I needed to do to solve (in a questionable manner) my own problem, not creating an universal application to all doctors. 01:18:09 That's a recurrent personal problem: always when I try to implement a program I try to make it so perfect and usable by other people that I freeze and do not solve my problem. 01:19:04 heh 01:19:19 (considering that I dispose of a limited ammount of time) 01:19:40 (it would not be a problem if I had programming as my profession) 01:22:43 I also realized that using the mouse sometimes improves significantly my productivy (as for designing databases) 01:33:44 -!- copumpkin is now known as epictroll 01:33:51 -!- epictroll is now known as copumpkin 01:34:45 i use a pencil to design schemata 01:35:34 McGyver would use a match. 01:37:28 arthurmaciel: some of the earliest cave paintings known to man include entity-relation diagrams and crude porn involving Simpsons characters. 01:37:47 lol 01:38:09 there are many cave paintings in my state (in Brazil) 01:38:32 and when we go on a schools excursion all the boys enjoy the crude porn 01:38:34 well, they had to blow off some steam after working all day on robust scalable cave building solutions 01:38:52 arthurmaciel: oh... MG? 01:38:56 arthurmaciel: where? 01:39:11 arthurmaciel: o prazer eh meu, falando nisso. 01:39:38 qu1j0t3: não acredito. 01:39:41 donde? 01:40:06 arthurmaciel: sou gringo. mas qual estado têm esses desenhos? 01:40:15 Minas Gerais 01:40:20 I was born in Ouro Preto 01:40:23 arthurmaciel: certo, eu já achei. 01:40:32 arthurmaciel: I only got as close as Viçosa. 01:40:36 arthurmaciel: lovely state. 01:40:56 where are you from? 01:41:15 arthurmaciel: posso mandar uma mensagem privada? 01:41:19 for sure 02:09:11 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:12:15 kpal [~kpal@46-252-115-118.sibtele.com] has joined #scheme 02:19:43 -!- arthurmaciel [~user@186.204.126.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:25:35 -!- rostayob [~rostayob@93-40-129-14.ip38.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 02:26:40 wolfpython [~wolf@112.3.255.123] has joined #scheme 02:28:38 vjacob [~vjacob@87.61.170.233] has joined #scheme 02:29:54 -!- wolfpython [~wolf@112.3.255.123] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 02:30:22 wolfpython [~wolf@112.3.255.123] has joined #scheme 02:31:16 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@out-mpk.corp.tfbnw.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 03:05:23 -!- wolfpython [~wolf@112.3.255.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:12:59 arthurmaciel [~user@186.204.126.4] has joined #scheme 03:17:36 wolfpython [~wolf@180.109.56.19] has joined #scheme 03:32:17 rudybot: eval (* -inf.0 -inf.0) 03:32:18 ijp: ; Value: +inf.0 03:32:30 rudybot: eval (* -inf.0 inf.0) 03:32:30 ijp: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: inf.0 in module: 'program 03:32:33 rudybot: eval (* -inf.0 +inf.0) 03:32:34 ijp: ; Value: -inf.0 03:33:09 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:33:41 I don't know why I expected something different, must be tired 03:35:15 leo2007 [~leo@123.114.44.167] has joined #scheme 03:38:01 -!- arthurmaciel [~user@186.204.126.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:55:47 xwl [~user@123.108.223.27] has joined #scheme 03:56:54 ijp: Now try these for fun: ;-) 03:57:04 rudybot: (- -inf.0 -inf.0) 03:57:04 cky: your sandbox is ready 03:57:05 cky: ; Value: +nan.0 03:57:14 rudybot: (+ +inf.0 -inf.0) 03:57:15 cky: ; Value: +nan.0 03:57:23 rudybot: (/ +inf.0 -inf.0) 03:57:24 cky: ; Value: +nan.0 03:57:31 ijp: You get the idea. :-D 04:16:01 -!- Blkt [~user@82.84.172.202] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:31:27 -!- poincare101 [~Dhaivat_P@CPE-65-27-96-82.new.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:32:27 -!- turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:38:02 -!- vjacob [~vjacob@87.61.170.233] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:38:38 rudybot: (battle superman batman) 04:38:38 *offby1: your sandbox is ready 04:38:38 *offby1: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: battle in module: 'program 04:43:43 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-38-222.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:44:27 On a similar note, I've recently started nicknaming Red Robin (the burger chain) as Black Batman. :-P 04:49:39 rockydogy [6c5a7e3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.90.126.59] has joined #scheme 04:52:37 *shudder* 04:52:46 Lol. 04:53:09 I used to like Red Robin. The original location, I think, is walking distance from me. 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05:50:00 turbofail [~user@99-121-57-65.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 05:59:17 http://prevayler.org/old_wiki/Welcome.html 05:59:19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDLWOS5ppyQ&feature=BFa&list=PL0DB26CEA7E35FB2C&lf=plpp_video 05:59:20 http://tinyurl.com/6q5m6da 06:01:34 *cky* thinks: 1. rudybot should be given +o, and 2. any mention of /.*prevayler.*/ causes an instant ban 06:02:38 rudybot: here, have a Spaghetti-O 06:02:38 *offby1: lovley tune, it was a long time i heard that.. 06:11:28 -!- _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-1-147.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:12:34 -!- mmc [~michal@sams-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:13:17 mmc [~michal@sams-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has joined #scheme 06:18:40 jake___ [~jake@c-71-198-241-152.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:20:06 -!- wolf_ [~wolf@180.111.141.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:23:37 -!- freakazoid 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for the method name will fail? http://paste.lisp.org/display/126915 15:16:59 bytbox [~s@173-166-130-217-washingtondc.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 15:17:34 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 15:18:33 Very interesting question. 15:20:42 i guess it's some kind of kawa bug 15:20:59 nope 15:21:08 not kawa, just the way macros work 15:21:34 method cannot be resolved to 'test at compile time 15:21:44 unless there is some trickery 15:22:36 unless invoke is a procedure, then you can disregard what I said 15:23:40 the docs claim invoke is a procedure 15:23:57 hmm, can't see why it should not work then 15:24:23 maybe it's a kawa bug 15:24:30 perhaps 15:32:41 -!- tupi [~david@177.30.35.233] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:41:09 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:02:04 -!- bytbox [~s@173-166-130-217-washingtondc.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:05:48 bytbox 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realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-139-212.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 19:39:55 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:40:15 choas [~lars@p5795C584.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:54:15 -!- amoe [~amoe@host-2-96-228-168.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:56:20 amoe [~amoe@host-2-96-227-151.as13285.net] has joined #scheme 19:57:36 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-215-117-46.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:01:27 X-Scale [email@sgi-ultra64.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 20:09:03 How do I get the current error port (stderr) in GNU/MIT-Scheme? 20:19:56 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:28:13 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@h178-129-85-135.dyn.bashtel.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31:52 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 20:38:47 phax_ 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