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-!- Qworkescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:48:42 confab [~win7@c-71-193-9-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:50:08 -!- rostayob [~rostayob@93-40-129-14.ip38.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 01:51:03 -!- GoKhlayeh [~GoKhlayeh@ARennes-652-1-88-131.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:55:50 In my company's scheme-based language, when I do (inspect (some-function-I-am-writing arg0 blah blah)) it just spits out "(#)" 01:56:05 Instead of showing me the actual members of the structure like I want 01:56:16 Is there another function I should use instead of inspect? 02:16:20 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 02:20:41 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.213.110] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:21:18 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-139-212.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 02:27:47 -!- replore [~replore@203.152.213.161.static.zoot.jp] 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(= x 1) 1 (* x (fac (- x 1))))) 03:30:41 rudybot: (define (fac x) (if (= x 1) 1 (* x (fac (- x 1))))) 03:30:41 poincare101: Done. 03:30:49 rudybot: (fac 5) 03:30:49 poincare101: ; Value: 120 03:30:55 rudybot: (fac 120) 03:30:55 poincare101: ; Value: 6689502913449127057588118054090372586752746333138029810295671352301633557244962989366874165271984981308157637893214090552534408589408121859898481114389650005964960521256960000000000000000000000000000 03:31:04 rudybot: (fac 1129) 03:31:04 poincare101: ; Value: 1254467243760697719120780013994255324944655974838584130400180967198495843451343076393559970286434036910610845422312441544074355643964579395224364729651584001486475613937691383455509504487210536817943883160415749993836718690723303271126302648517772815534540471467603775459520165281010833751154708916911069272660233435148367238822412294128476428228600513896653934399588075451787969531513887797609170084434 03:31:19 (define (doublefac x) (fac (fac x))) 03:31:28 rudybot: (define (doublefac x) (fac (fac x))) 03:31:28 poincare101: Done. 03:31:33 rudybot: (doublefac 120) 03:31:35 poincare101: error: evaluator: terminated (out-of-memory) 03:31:45 rudybot: (doublefac 20) 03:31:45 poincare101: your sandbox is ready 03:31:45 poincare101: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: doublefac in module: 'program 03:31:52 :( 03:37:29 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:38:01 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.123.251.72] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 23.3.50.1] 03:38:46 -!- _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-1-147.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:39:00 rudybot: oh well, you did your best 03:39:01 ijp: we did reach some sort of consensus, but you didn't agree with it :/ 03:55:35 jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #scheme 04:00:26 leo2007 [~leo@114.249.201.148] has joined #scheme 04:08:10 poincare101: it's running on a tiny VM with very little RAM 04:08:51 (and it'll time out 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12:39:00 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:39:26 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 12:44:56 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 12:49:44 Blkt [~user@82.84.172.202] has joined #scheme 12:54:06 good day everyone 12:55:32 o/ 12:57:30 :D 12:59:05 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 13:04:17 gravicappa [~gravicapp@h94-75-55-188.dyn.bashtel.ru] has joined #scheme 13:08:53 poincare101 [~Dhaivat_P@CPE-65-27-96-82.new.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 13:17:03 -!- poincare101 [~Dhaivat_P@CPE-65-27-96-82.new.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:17:48 replore [~replore@EM117-55-65-133.emobile.ad.jp] has joined #scheme 13:22:12 haze__ [~Peter@vpn0777.extern.uni-tuebingen.de] has joined #scheme 13:22:19 hello 13:24:32 i got a question: i want to write a procedure that gets a list and produces a pair of two lists containing the elements of the list it gets alternately 13:25:06 how is that working? 13:25:55 do i need two procedures for that? 13:28:29 You could alway split a procedure in two. 13:28:35 But it's hardly necessary here. 13:29:15 ok 13:30:56 rudybot: ((lambda (input-list) (let loop ((input input-list) (l0 '()) (l1 '())) (cond ((null? input) (list (reverse l0) (reverse l1))) ((null? (cdr input)) (list (reverse (cons (car input) l0)) (reverse l1))) (else (loop (cddr input) (cons (car input) l0) (cons (cadr input) l1)))))) '(0 1 2 3 4 5 6)) 13:30:57 pjb: your r5rs sandbox is ready 13:30:57 pjb: ; Value: {{0 2 4 6} {1 3 5}} 13:31:48 wooh.. great! 13:32:54 thx a lot! 13:39:52 what's up with the curly braces? 13:40:09 rudybot: this ain't clojure son 13:40:10 DerGuteMoritz: it seems likely that the byte compiler code has implemented much of the machinery needed, and could be re-appropriated to implement this feature (if it isn't exposed already). 13:40:18 DerGuteMoritz: It's Tcl. 13:40:22 pierreghz [~pierreghz@cust-204-40-111-94.dyn.as47377.net] has joined #scheme 13:40:27 ah, that explains it! 13:40:27 DerGuteMoritz : mutable cons cells 13:40:33 DrTcl 13:40:34 DerGuteMoritz: I lost hope of explaining scheme implementations. 13:40:37 hehe 13:41:28 rudybot: eval (cons '() '()) 13:41:29 ski: ; Value: (()) 13:41:33 rudybot: init scheme 13:41:33 ski: your scheme sandbox is 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[~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 20:44:38 arthurmaciel [~user@186.204.126.4] has joined #scheme 20:44:43 hello! 20:48:01 hello 20:50:46 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@out-mpk.corp.tfbnw.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:51:53 I'm almost a layman and would like to hear your (always helpful) opinions about a solution I have to implement. I need to build a database program that will store health institutions, patients attended in these institutions and some notes written everytime I see a patient. Everytime I open the program, sorting by institution I would need to see which patients should I discuss with the team first (when I take note of a patient, I should 20:51:53 set the review date or period in order to keep tracking his health condition with the team). 20:52:37 I was implementing it as a standalone web app with awful and sqlite (with SQLCipher), but someone other day remembered me about MS Access and I took a look at some linux DB programs. 20:58:31 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:58:42 The DB should be synced with some file server just to ensure all the notes will not be lost in case my laptop blows out. With app webs I feel I have to write everycorner of detail to implement it right (web forms, each page, links, access permissions, etc.). I have the feeling it would be much easier to use DB programs. Has anyone had a similar experience to mine? 21:14:34 !! 21:14:48 arthurmaciel: DabbleDB 21:14:53 arthurmaciel: go home early 21:20:19 qu1j0t3: http://blog.dabbledb.com/ 21:20:43 qu1j0t3: they have announced the service was shut down on march 17, 2011 21:20:52 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@204.38.4.80] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 21:21:41 arthurmaciel: :( 21:22:23 qu1j0t3: have you heard about kexi, based on Qt? 21:22:38 arthurmaciel: no 21:22:52 arthurmaciel: i think your intuition is probably correct though. 21:23:11 arthurmaciel: that doing this line by painstaking line is probably not very good investment unless it's a learning exercise. 21:25:14 poincare101 [~Dhaivat_P@CPE-65-27-96-82.new.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 21:27:17 realitygrill [~realitygr@204.38.4.80] has joined #scheme 21:27:48 qu1j0t3: for sure it is a learning exercise, but it is much more a DB execise, instead of a scheme one (of scheme I would only repeat specific commands) 21:28:07 (er.. sorry about mentioned 'eggs' here - I realized I'm not on #chicken :) 21:29:58 shh no food jokes! 21:31:24 lol 21:32:52 I was wondering about joining a small scheme project. I would like to practise it with some supervision. qu1j0t3, do you know some project that I could join? 21:35:12 arthurmaciel: you mean a scheme project that is a forms-based interface to a database? 21:35:18 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@204.38.4.80] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 21:36:29 qu1j0t3: no, any project. I'm hungry to program something, but I have no idea of (indeed I'm now with Practical Common Lisp on my lap trying to implement some example). 21:37:39 (now that I've realized my patients notes project will not need scheme) 21:39:18 arthurmaciel: I see. 21:39:43 arthurmaciel: well i am sure somebody will speak up in here if they want volunteers :D 21:39:56 (silence) 21:39:57 lol 21:40:05 whoa give it more than 13 seconds :) 21:40:17 that's was the joke ;) 21:40:23 that* 21:42:22 qu1j0t3: thank you for the help. 21:42:39 freakazoid [~seanl@out-mpk.corp.tfbnw.net] has joined #scheme 21:44:26 -!- haze__ [~Peter@vpn0777.extern.uni-tuebingen.de] has quit [Quit: haze__] 21:47:25 -!- copumpkin is now known as BTC_Boar 21:47:52 -!- BTC_Boar is now known as copumpkin 21:51:04 -!- sphex_ is now known as sphex 21:54:31 -!- pierreghz [~pierreghz@cust-204-40-111-94.dyn.as47377.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 21:54:57 -!- markskilbeck [~markskilb@unaffiliated/markskilbeck] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:56:11 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-184-147.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 21:56:24 arthurmaciel: i wasn't much :< 22:01:42 for sure you were. 22:02:44 hmm.... do you know how to extract data from web pages? There is a national pages of all health institutions but which does not provide an web service to retrieve data. I would need to retrieve through an http client. 22:02:59 Is there an Easy Way(TM) to do it? 22:05:16 Euthy [~euthy@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has joined #scheme 22:08:08 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@out-mpk.corp.tfbnw.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:16:33 PfhatWork: That output looks like Racket. Try adding `#:transparent' to the struct definition. 22:16:53 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-139-212.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 22:18:08 markskilbeck [~markskilb@unaffiliated/markskilbeck] has joined #scheme 22:40:56 arthurmaciel: racket comes with an http client 22:42:34 and you can use htmlprag to parse the markup 22:42:56 http://planet.plt-scheme.org/display.ss?package=htmlprag.plt&owner=neil 22:46:26 thanks, turbofail! 22:46:57 np 22:48:38 -!- bombshelter13b [~bombshelt@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: If only your veins were filled with oil, the world would rush to your rescue!] 22:51:47 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-2.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:12 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03:26 -!- bweaver [~user@host-68-169-158-230.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:09:26 -!- tupi [~david@139.82.89.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:12:12 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@m90-141-46-62.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 23:15:47 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 23:17:19 freakazoid [~seanl@out-mpk.corp.tfbnw.net] has joined #scheme 23:17:58 what's the equivalent of common lisp's progn? is there one. I'm just using let () but it looks ugly 23:18:16 progn or block 23:21:58 begin 23:22:23 rudybot: eval (begin (display "yes ") (display "there is") #f) 23:22:23 ijp: ; Value: #f 23:22:24 ijp: ; stdout: "yes there is" 23:22:52 great thanks. 23:23:02 good day, schemers 23:24:37 -!- z` [~zmv@186.204.156.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:26:14 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multitier_architecture 23:26:18 Found it interesting 23:27:13 -!- bytbox [~s@96.26.105.154] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:31:13 is there no /= or != operator? 23:31:56 not in the standard, no 23:32:49 thanks 23:33:37 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:42:52 :/ 23:45:11 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-184-147.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:46:07 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:46:58 hm.. how do we test for difference? (not (equal? ....)) ? 23:47:12 (or eq?) 23:48:34 -!- masm [~masm@bl15-232-66.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:51:27 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-161-113.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 23:53:04 arthurmaciel: Yes. 23:53:51 stamourv: thanks 23:54:03 -!- arthurmaciel [~user@186.204.126.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:04 how can i convert a float to an int (kawa)? is (floor val) as good as it gets? 23:55:27 NihilistDandy [~NihilistD@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:58:59 wivlaro: that seems perfect for the job. if you want floor. 23:59:28 see also ceiling, truncate, and round 23:59:45 yeah, that is what i'm after but it is returning me what appears to be a floating point number in kawa. 23:59:56 try inexact->exact